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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a] 1
#27980699 - 10/04/22 06:37 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: God damn those are some massive caps.
Coir won’t impact potency, it’s just there to hold water.
ok, but then tell me why the same culture (nat for ex) on coir and on hpoo/straw/coir doesnt develop similarly. i mean the same phenotype is definitely denser and smells stronger on hpoo than on coir. why should potency not be influenced at all? cant see the logic...
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: chris77]
#27980719 - 10/04/22 06:52 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I am not sure about potency as I haven’t used horse manure or any manure based substrate, but I guess somehow it’s gotta do with the Nitrogen content. Also I have a wild theory for the size difference on poo based subs:
Considering they are aware of their surroundings by taking to consideration certain factors, the mycelium develops larger fruit bodies with bigger caps which increases the spore spreading capacity to greater distances while they are outdoors. Here the poo based substrate however it’s grown indoors, might trick the mycelium into thinking they’re on the field somewhere outdoors maybe. Just a thought
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: chris77]
#27980772 - 10/04/22 07:45 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Myc Hunt said: Some Semp 5 weeks and 2 days after spawning. They started pinning after roughly 13-15 days, can’t remember exactly. I wanted prints off of this run as it’s my first, so waited for them to produce spores.
This was spawned to CV 1:3.5. Thin top layer at spawn, all compressed of course. In a 23L EZ Dial. Misted maybe 2 or 3 times. Fruited at spawn.

 nice!!! can you say something about potency when spawned to coir "only" ? your tub is looking good
Thanks man, it was CV. Can’t speak to potency as I haven’t tried them yet but like Faht says, I can’t say it making the blindest but if difference!
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: SwabMarley] 2
#27980850 - 10/04/22 08:45 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Just shook up some subtropacalis and getting ready to coir. Hoping 2nd generation treats me better.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] 1
#27980869 - 10/04/22 09:01 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Adas said: I've just noticed that my culture from Rockyfungus in forming a primordium (or 2) on a plate. The plate isn't even super old. I'll transfer from there. I have a jar colonized as well. It grows a bit slower than the Ambrose's culture that I have in fruiting right now, but maybe it could make up for it by faster fruiting times.
OR do you guys recommend letting the plate primordia form into pins and transfer these so I'll end up with a clone quickly?
Why think about this? I like the surprise of not knowing what you get. I cleaned some agar, around 12 different sectors. And who knows, maybe total crap, maybe beautiful specimens.. why do you need a clone quickly? Only if I see an exceptional fruit that catches my eye for some reason, maybe I would clone.. apart from that I don't care about cloning, I'd rather try 12 new sectors and throw the dice again hehe. Who knows maybe the next run could produce a crazy pheno, you don't know.
Alrighty thanks. I'll go ahead and make a transfer then.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Rotnpins] 4
#27981060 - 10/04/22 11:38 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Sending my spawn to bulk this weekQuote:
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Melgo said: What about the members who received prints from me? Quick-pins? or No-quick-pins?
Can’t comment just yet though casing 4 tubs today, hoping for the best. Those prints were clean as can be as well! And growth has been excellent so far at least to my untrained eye. The coming weeks will tell..
I spawned mine last week.. I'll keep ya posted once I have something to share
Sending my spawn to bulk this week. Also did a few brf pucks and I believe one has a super fat pin now after doing something weird on the bottom. I put some coir on it last night to see if the puck can top fruit in a half pint jar. Will follow up with some pictures if it does anything. Here are pictures I took on 9/8 (33 days since noc), so almost a month ago. I don't know what that thing on the bottom is and tried to get decent pic. Now it has a more normal looking fat pin on top, but I didn't take a picture when I found it last night.

Some tamp stones nocced at the same time for comparison.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: chris77] 3
#27981390 - 10/04/22 03:13 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: God damn those are some massive caps.
Coir won’t impact potency, it’s just there to hold water.
ok, but then tell me why the same culture (nat for ex) on coir and on hpoo/straw/coir doesnt develop similarly. i mean the same phenotype is definitely denser and smells stronger on hpoo than on coir. why should potency not be influenced at all? cant see the logic...
Because manure and straw are nutritious in addition to holding water.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a] 6
#27981539 - 10/04/22 04:27 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Some metabolites in one of my bottles
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: SirPsycho] 5
#27982023 - 10/04/22 09:42 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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So, what do we think that the florescence means? I have three jars of subtrop about to go to bulk. Only one has the glowing spots. Is that the good one or a sign of trouble?
 
And I happened to have a few bottles of way over due lions mane spawn jars as well. Figured I would just powder the mycelated grain with these. But a couple have a lot of metabolites in the bottom that glows like crazy and the top of the dryer one glows pink instead of just yellow-green.
   That pink is not a reflection, it is inside. Trippy!
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc]
#27982097 - 10/04/22 10:25 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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ReverendMyc said: So, what do we think that the florescence means? I have three jars of subtrop about to go to bulk. Only one has the glowing spots. Is that the good one or a sign of trouble?
 
And I happened to have a few bottles of way over due lions mane spawn jars as well. Figured I would just powder the mycelated grain with these. But a couple have a lot of metabolites in the bottom that glows like crazy and the top of the dryer one glows pink instead of just yellow-green.
   That pink is not a reflection, it is inside. Trippy!
Cannot answer the questions because IDK, but these photos are SUPER trippy
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Melgo]
#27982230 - 10/05/22 02:33 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Has anyone who has grown substropicalis tried this method for making a tea? I was reading this.. 
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12493903#12493903
It's about 2% adding citric acid to fresh mushrooms weight in a pot with a small quantity of water, boil 30sec - 1min while smashing the fruits -> steep 10 min -> squeeze mushrooms -> end up with a small quantity of concentrated liquid.
I wonder if it preserved the subtropicalis 'trip signature' or quality these mushrooms provide. Would love to try it as an alternative to lemon tek with dried mushies.. as it's disgusting. Also to a homogenise the liquid as the fruits seem to vary in potency wildly.. store in icecubes in the freezer.. who knows. Maybe someone who already got some fruits would like to try it out? I will eventually.. but still waiting for fruits
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance]
#27982254 - 10/05/22 04:07 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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You know what, I'm pondering on preserving techniques of subtrops for a while. I'm thinking about honey and ethanol. I wonder what would preserve more actives, but I bet both have a chance to show better results than drying. What do you guys think?
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Konbri] 2
#27982343 - 10/05/22 07:19 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Honey (which requires complete drying) has been demonstrated to be no more effective than complete drying, and air-tight storage alone.
Do not put wet fruit in honey.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Egon_Spengler] 6
#27982783 - 10/05/22 01:10 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Spawn and coir in a bag with holes poked in it. Thin coir top layer at spawning. Photo isn't great but it is forming pins across the whole surface.
Same deal in a modified water jug and a little further along.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Egon_Spengler]
#27982809 - 10/05/22 01:31 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I've tried making semilanceata in honey, it did just fine, but I didn't do any scientific recearch, thanks for clarifying, Egon. Shall I abandon thoughts of wet semps in 95% ethanol as well?
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Konbri]
#27982811 - 10/05/22 01:33 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Sorry friend, I’m afraid I don’t know anything about ethanol extraction. But I’m sure that other folks here could chime in, and I bet there’s at least a couple write-ups available through the search function.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Egon_Spengler]
#27982847 - 10/05/22 01:58 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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You can use fresh in making extraction honey like Golly's stealth honey but you filter them out. Like Egon said, no fresh straight into honey. Slightly related, I think an OMC member is keeping a fresh Ps. Cyan in hemp seed oil for a couple years now in the freezer.
Ethanol works on fresh too. The disadvantage is that a greater volume of ethanol is needed for extraction because the fresh mush are larger.
Mushroom chocolates are fun too but dried mush are the way to go also.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer]
#27983107 - 10/05/22 04:36 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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++ Agree with you, Yoshi, I love the chocolates, though you'll have to dry the fruits anyway to make it. And my goal is to perserve as much actives as possible, as it seems like subtrops are waaaayy more potent while fresh, considering what I've read in this thread. I'll gladly try and report back with the knowledge, it's just I decided to utter the idea and maybe someone would stop me if the idea is bad. I'm only familiar with extraction of dry fruits, speaking of Psilocybe, the only species I do extract fresh is A. muscaria and it's working great, but I don't take it orally, it has different uses.
I hope it's not too much of an off-topic, as I wanted to know the ways of preserving subtropicails specifically and there's not too much info about fresh fruits preservation elsewhere. Anyway, I guess I'll just settle with drying.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] 5
#27983146 - 10/05/22 04:59 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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ReverendMyc said: So, what do we think that the florescence means? I have three jars of subtrop about to go to bulk. Only one has the glowing spots. Is that the good one or a sign of trouble?
 
And I happened to have a few bottles of way over due lions mane spawn jars as well. Figured I would just powder the mycelated grain with these. But a couple have a lot of metabolites in the bottom that glows like crazy and the top of the dryer one glows pink instead of just yellow-green.
   That pink is not a reflection, it is inside. Trippy!
Screenshot removed by user, reason 
Long story short likely harmala based betacarboline according to Melliferous
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Edited by SirPsycho (10/06/22 07:01 AM)
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: SirPsycho] 9
#27984171 - 10/06/22 07:43 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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