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Invisiblebaltazar
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!! __ HENBANE __ !!
    #2798141 - 06/16/04 08:45 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)


Hello , i was searching for some interesting plants that grow in my region and i realised that henbane can be found in my place ...

I looked for some info on erowid , but found little information ...

Does someone have some experiences with henbane , is it usefull ( i mean is it psychoactive in any way ) , and what are the effects ...

Please discuss a little about this interesting plant ...

ps. ill try to find one , i think it flowers right now in summer , so it shouldn't be a problem with identification :smile:


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Re: !! __ HENBANE __ !! [Re: baltazar]
    #2798156 - 06/16/04 08:56 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It could be very loosely called psychoactive- but not by me. They are not hard to find wherever they are naturalized and grow- (damn near everywhere). The seeds, I have heard, may be used in a way that you are suggesting (for time constraints I'll call it recreational). I've never met anyone who knows how many. All the plant parts contain different amounts of the alkaloids-tropane alkaloids. Alkaloidaholic might know the most of anyone here on the subject, judging from what I've read in the past.


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Re: !! __ HENBANE __ !! [Re: baltazar]
    #2798162 - 06/16/04 08:58 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Also the side effects are horrible and the lethal dose/useable dose ratio is probably not funny to look at. Try a datura. (said someone else using my computer).


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Re: !! __ HENBANE __ !! [Re: superblingtheory]
    #2798460 - 06/16/04 11:12 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yes , i think too that Alkaloidaholic could tell us some more information , hope he replyes later here ...

Can alkaloids in henbane do damage to our health ? Im mostly woried about that , if it dangerous i rather won't try it ...


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Re: !! __ HENBANE __ !! [Re: baltazar]
    #2798466 - 06/16/04 11:16 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

^ Yes, do a google search on "henbane toxicity"


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Re: !! __ HENBANE __ !! [Re: Organic]
    #2798506 - 06/16/04 11:40 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

atropine and scopolamine ( the active ingridients in henbane ) block the action of the neurochemical acetylcholine ...

A person who consumes it usually experiences a high heart rate, dry mouth, an elevated body temperature and dilated pupils and has difficulty urinating -- all of the things that acetylcholine controls ...

I think it is not good to play with this plant , becose of the heart . It can cause heart failure , and thats not what we wan't ...

I think i won't try it ...

What do you people think about it ?


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Re: !! __ HENBANE __ !! [Re: baltazar]
    #2798516 - 06/16/04 11:51 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Nothing recreational, and you may die so it stands to reason...don't do it.


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Re: !! __ HENBANE __ !! [Re: baltazar]
    #2798762 - 06/16/04 01:08 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I have crushed the seeds and smoked them with another herb.... I liked it a lot. It is easier to dose tropaines whne you smoke them but keep in mind that you are still dancing on deadly ground. The smoke tastes just like fennel seeds almost to me. Crush them up well and roll a little something with them.... But don't let my enthusiasm make you ignore the warnings of others.


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Re: !! __ HENBANE __ !! [Re: baltazar]
    #2798769 - 06/16/04 01:13 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I like that suggestion but I can't imagine that tasting good. I harvest them every year for my harvest celebration- but only for decoration and purpose. So many members of the nightshade family are tropically beautiful in an otherworldly sense- very intimidating.


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Re: !! __ HENBANE __ !! [Re: superblingtheory]
    #2798942 - 06/16/04 02:08 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)


I'm glad i asked here for more info ...

I don't want to fuck myself with some dangerous supstances like henbane alkaloids .

Right now im exploring my region to find any psychoactive herbs in nature . Till now i found wormwood , and i think im just gonna explore that , and won't play with henbane ...

Maybe ill try to mix little amounts of henbane leaves with wormwood , but ill think about that ...

Thanks for your help , people !


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Re: !! __ HENBANE __ !! [Re: baltazar]
    #2799351 - 06/16/04 03:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

>>Yes , i think too that Alkaloidaholic could tell us some more information , hope he replyes later here ...

He probably won't. He's away until probably monday.

Henbane should be considered just like datura and brugs. Not really recreational, and sould be considered dangerous to those who are not experienced.


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