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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild]
    #27981371 - 10/04/22 03:03 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

id print these for posterity/trades/giveaway,

maybe im spoiled by now, but I dont see cloning material here,

no interesting fruits, nor particular clusters

throw the dice again?

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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27981465 - 10/04/22 03:45 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Just wait for the others to reach that same veil torn ripeness. Sometimes you gotta wait a little beyond that for spores to drop on a print but that varies depending on genetics or variety. The aborts can be plucked off and if they're not rotten they can be dried and consumed also. An adjustable spray bottle from the automotive section in Walmart works just fine. As long as you're not blasting the surface directly the spray falls like from up higher. I lay 2 towels on the floor beside eachother, place the tub on them in the center, spray misty water from about waist high. Spray bottle makes your arm feel like it's gonna fall off lol An adjustable spray 2 gal pump sprayer might be worth trying can always return what you dont like.


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27982398 - 10/05/22 08:11 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Well, over night the majority ripped their veils and I harvested them this morning.

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id print these for posterity/trades/giveaway,

maybe im spoiled by now, but I dont see cloning material here...




I know they aren't overwhelming, based on a lot of pics from peoples sigs. Mainly I did the cloning transfer to get practice at it for the future.

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Just wait for the others to reach that same veil torn ripeness.




There are about 10-ish that are still growing up right now. So just wait for them to get to just starting to rip their veil, then harvest? Should I just go ahead and harvest all the aborts now while I wait for the ones that are still growing up?

I'll try to get a pic of the tub today, now that you can see the bottom again with all the ones I harvested gone now. I forgot while harvesting and getting them ready for drying.

BTW, I would like to say thank you to everyone who helped me on this. I know I'm just a noob with the same 50 billion questions you all have likely answered 50 billion times before, but thank you none-the-less. Your work is greatly appreciated (and I get it: on other topics, and on other sites I have been in your shoes).

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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild]
    #27982405 - 10/05/22 08:13 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Good answer!:thumbup: Practise always gud


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27982409 - 10/05/22 08:16 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

@echo

Yep just wait then harvest the same. Yes pluck the aborts now and as long as they're not rotten or moldy they're good to dry out and consume also.


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: rumfor69]
    #27982463 - 10/05/22 08:46 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Yep just wait then harvest the same. Yes pluck the aborts now and as long as they're not rotten or moldy they're good to dry out and consume also.




So here is a pic of the tub. I noticed while inspecting closer, there are tons of tiny aborts. Or? Are these the start of a new flush? Pick them anyways, just in case, yes?

Also, please confirm, the tub looks really dry, yes?


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild]
    #27982475 - 10/05/22 08:57 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Hmmm Yeah you might have lots of little pins in there that are getting started. I don't see a lot of aborts I don't think.

Check the surface conditions link in my sig. You want your surface to look like those pics in there. I can't see if yours does so just compare to that thread. Put a couple towels down side by side set the tub on them and mist from waste high up so it falls gently and collects into beads till it looks like the pics in that thread. Then dont mist again till it needs beads again.


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: rumfor69]
    #27982514 - 10/05/22 09:22 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't see a lot of aborts I don't think.




Hmmmm.... I must have a misunderstanding of what aborts look like then (I'll see if I can search a visual reference here after I post this post). I thought they were pins and/or immature mushrooms that stopped growing.

Some of those "aborts" have been around a while I think, and never really grew up. Should I just give them a few days and see what they do?

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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild]
    #27982517 - 10/05/22 09:24 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Do the misting like I said before get the surface conditions like in that thread. Then watch them closely to see if they start growing. They might just be dry and going super slow which means they would abort, but proper surface conditions may save them...may


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: rumfor69]
    #27982527 - 10/05/22 09:34 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Do the misting like I said before get the surface conditions like in that thread. Then watch them closely to see if they start growing. They might just be dry and going super slow which means they would abort, but proper surface conditions may save them...may




Yeah, I'm going back and forth with the thread you recommended, and looking for photos of aborts (cause my mind this morning doesn't want to focus very hard it seems). Aborts have black heads, right? That's what I'm seeing in the photos I have found so far.

The current water sprayer I have sucks, so I misted the sides of the tub to try to raise the humidity while I wait to get a better mister, to follow your steps you previously outlined.

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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild]
    #27984225 - 10/06/22 08:43 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, got a better mister, and am following your instructions, surface conditions are looking better. I'm misting 2x per day for now, checking to make sure the surface conditions look less dry, then I will back off to misting only when needed.

Also, someone asked for pics of my PF Tek grows a bit back, here are pics from this morning:



I have 2 more mono's up and running now. They are from LC I made a while back from 2 different strains from T2 clean agar transfers. Guess we will see how they go. When I QC'ed the LC's on agar, they came out clean, so I'm hopeful.

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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild]
    #27985978 - 10/07/22 07:52 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

The mono has been cleared of flush 1. Here are some pics as the tub looks now. How is this looking to you all? Misting still as rumfor explained.




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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild]
    #28009423 - 10/21/22 02:52 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

So... I didn't want to make yet another thread of asking Q's about my mono tubs, so I'm just going to place this here cause I don't know where else to place it.

This is tub of Creeper. It was MS -> Agar -> T3 -> LC -> Millet spawn bag.

I mixed it 1:1 with a cow manure sub (trying to get rid of the last of my bought subs before I start making my own).

If I'm remembering right, mixing 1:1 gets quicker colonization and growing, but fruits tend to be smaller, yes?

Also... in this tub I have noticed that there is a lot of uneven pinning happening (a decent amount of side pinning too cause I forgot the liner *Doh!*). This tub doesn't seem to be retaining moisture as well as my 3:1 GT tub, likely cause this was my first tub I made and I borked the FAE holes (and I live in a desert).

Anyone have any ideas on the uneven pinning?

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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild]
    #28009435 - 10/21/22 02:58 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

How bad did you treat that myc to get all that massive bruising?

Quoting someone: "1:1 can cause mutations, 1:2 is a waste"

If your spawn is clean, go 1:3 at least (some here to up to 1:10)

MSS grow (even if you cleaned on agar) is still a roll of the dice. You can get a full canopy or very few fruits. Try clone a nice one from that grow (from a cluster ideally) and use that (the cleaned myc from the clone) for a better looking tub next time


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild]
    #28009441 - 10/21/22 03:01 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

the fruits may be smaller bc of less water content in the sub at 1:1 but it shouldn’t be too extreme. maybe someone else has more info than i on that

if you’re getting side pins it’s usually because surface conditions are off. you can avoid side pins without liners, liners just help but aren’t the end all be all of getting rid of side pins. i don’t use them & get little to no side pins first flush

there may be more going on there but it looks like the myc is bruised around the polyfill holes & that leads me to believe it’s getting a little too dry in areas


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: Rusty2096]
    #28009453 - 10/21/22 03:09 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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How bad did you treat that myc to get all that massive bruising?

I've had to keep misting it... it dries out like 2x a day. No droplets on the surface at all. So I mist it from 3ft up as others have suggested, but even that seems to be leading to the bruising just spreading.

If your spawn is clean, go 1:3 at least (some here to up to 1:10)

Yeah, I've been using 1:3 on my other tubs, I just was trying to use up the last of the bought sub. My other tub that is 1:3 is rolling along nicely.

MSS grow (even if you cleaned on agar) is still a roll of the dice. You can get a full canopy or very few fruits. Try clone a nice one from that grow (from a cluster ideally) and use that (the cleaned myc from the clone) for a better looking tub next time

Yeah thats become my goal with this tub. Try to find a nice cluster and clone it. When you said MSS... did you mean LC? I started with MSS, but I made an LC after T3. Someone else here said that would be less of a crapshoot?





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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: hazyhorse]
    #28009462 - 10/21/22 03:12 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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if you’re getting side pins it’s usually because surface conditions are off. you can avoid side pins without liners, liners just help but aren’t the end all be all of getting rid of side pins. i don’t use them & get little to no side pins first flush

there may be more going on there but it looks like the myc is bruised around the polyfill holes & that leads me to believe it’s getting a little too dry in areas




I've had to mist this one 2x a day, so I think the bruising is a combo of drying out, and me trying to rehydrate it. I made the FAE holes too big I think (or the poly isn't packed tight enough?)

I mist from 3ft up.... but the bruising just keeps spreading. I know the surface conditions are a bit fucked... I don't need to mist like this with my other tubs. They all seemed to maintain surface conditions well on their own, and I didn't need to mist them at all (but they were all also 1:3).

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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild]
    #28009480 - 10/21/22 03:23 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

When I said MSS I meant MS (multi-spore), my bad. Doesn't matter if you went to agar and/or LC, it's still MS, just more likely to be clean.

Edit: Before your next grow, I'd duct-tape the fuck out of those huge holes, and make new ones, waaaaaaaaay smaller - so you can add/remove micropore tape as needed (poly-fil is for stuffed toys IMO)


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    #28009483 - 10/21/22 03:25 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

i would say it’s more that the poly isn’t packed right enough. i’ve never used poly for tubs (i use this design to good success) but if it’s drying out you need to pack it tighter. you can also try layers of micropore tape over the holes, pasty has another older write up on that somewhere on here but it’s pretty self explanatory

the fact that the bruising is more around the holes leads me to believe it’s from drying out rather than misting. i use a fine mister (it’s a hair salon style mister) but as long as the drops aren’t too aggressive you shouldn’t see much bruising from misting like you are. the lack of substrate in comparison to your other tubs can mean less water & moisture over all too, it may be compounded with the size of holes/not being packed tight enough. bad surface conditions are gonna lead to weird pin sets & side pinning


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: Rusty2096]
    #28009496 - 10/21/22 03:28 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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When I said MSS I meant MS (multi-spore), my bad. Doesn't matter if you went to agar and/or LC, it's still MS, just more likely to be clean.

Edit: Before your next grow, I'd duct-tape the fuck out of those huge holes, and make new ones, waaaaaaaaay smaller - so you can add/remove micropore tape as needed (poly-fil is for stuffed toys IMO)




Good to go. Looks like more cloning in my future :laugh: Thank you Rusty!

TBH... I think I'm just going to get rid of this tub when all the flushes are done. It was my first attempt at making a tub, and I didn't have all the supplies/knowledge I needed. New tubs aren't expensive, and I have since learned how to make tubs with better spaced and smaller holes.

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