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Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gyms!) * 18
    #27973922 - 09/29/22 12:56 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Disclaimer: This guide is for educational and entertainment purposes only.

In addition, since I first created this guide, I have started to feel that our knowledge of this genus of fungi is extremely limited. There may be many factors that remain unknown with Gymnopilus. Please keep this in mind. For all of you who have helped research Gymns with your own experiences and observations, I sincerely thank you.
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So, you've heard about the mysterious Big Laughing Jim. You've seen pictures, read trip reports, and maybe even started hunting for it yourself. But, in the swirling vortex of information (and, in many cases, misinformation), clearly articulated threats of the deadly look-alikes Galerina marginata and Cortinarius rubellus species give you pause. And yet more reports claim the Laughing Jim is inactive, or extremely weak; and you find yourself wondering: Is this even worth it?



Introduction
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This guide is several years in the making. Since the season for Gymnopilus subspectabilis on the east coast is about to begin, and is already underway in some areas, I've decided to finally compile all the information I have to share. Hopefully this guide will allow you to find and identify these funny orange mushrooms yourself!

In the first section of this guide I'll be going over one key mushroom in the Gymnopilus genus, Gymnopilus subspectabilis. This species, as it was redefined as distinct from G. junonius in a recent paper, is one of the most common large psychoactive Gymnopilus mushrooms on the east coast of the United States and Canada, and I have the most experience with it. Several Gymnopilus species that are closely related and look very similar, such as G. junonius in Europe and Australia and G. ventricosus on the west coast, are unfortunately inactive.


A Story
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Several years ago, when I first started to learn about mushrooms, I became obsessed with the Laughing Gymn. Nobody could seem to tell me if they were active or not, or where I should be looking to find them. But I had to find them, and so I searched forest after forest in the summer heat. I even drank tea made from Cortinarius rubellus that I was convinced were Gymns. You can go back and look at my first posts on the Shroomery and see just how dumb I was. Then, one night, in the fall, I stumbled upon a small group of pins in the woods:



Several days later, they looked like this:



The blue bruising made it clear that I'd finally found what I was looking for, completely by chance. Then, over the next few weeks, they started showing up everywhere.




Part 1: Habitat and Season
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Many Gymns fruit primarily in autumn. For me, that means they start popping sometime in September, peaking in October right around Halloween, and end by the time the very cold November days begin. In some areas that are further north or south the season may vary slightly. Although many sources will say otherwise, I've found G. subspectabilis fruiting almost exclusively at the bases of trees and stumps, or seemingly terrestrially from buried roots. In my area they are especially common and easy to spot on the sides of roads, near small parks, or in small, shady hardwood stands.



They only associate with hardwoods and don't seem particularly picky, although I always have the best luck with large Red Oaks and Basswoods, and sometimes Maples. Many of their hosts can be ornamental trees planted along suburban roads. They are also very common growing with ornamental pear trees!



The point is, you don't have to push very far into the woods to find these mushrooms. A few similar species, like G. luteus and G. speciosissimus are more commonly found growing from logs in the woods, but I don't have much personal experience with them. Some have also said they grow in mulch and woodchips, although I've never encountered this. Mulch-dwelling Gymns seem to be exclusively in the G. luteofolius or G. lepidotus species groups. (More on these species in Part 4...)


Part 2: Description
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I will not go into much detail here, as many published descriptions do a better job than I could. However, I will give a few key details and general characteristics. All Gymns are very heavy sporulators, releasing massive dustings of orange spores all over the place. G. subspectabilis is a yellow to orange mushroom, with the cap being about the same colour as the stem in most specimens. When young, the mushroom forms very tight clusters of pins that almost look like little grains of corn:



As they age, many pins will abort, turning blue-green, then eventually dark orange-brown-blackish. Before the cortinate veil opens, the caps are usually VERY round if undisturbed, which you can see in some of the prior photos. The cap itself also displays another key characteristic: the slightly fibrous, scale-like crackling pattern. This isn't always apparent, but it is definitely a characteristic to note.

The smell is very distinct! Strong mushroom-anise, licorice-like scent


Part 3: Look-alikes
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Several Cortinarius species can look similar to Gymns. However, the difference often lies in the growth habit and habitat. Cortinarius rubellus rarely forms clusters and is more often gregarious, and it isn't often found in landscaping settings. They are also often more brown than yellow, and G. subspectabilis will only get that brown if it is very old. Also, Corts tend to display a more pronounced umbo, which Gymns will never do.

Galerina marginata bears almost no resemblance to G. subspectabilis in my opinion. The cap is smooth and hygrophanous rather than scaly and fibrous, and the mushrooms are tiny in comparison. Really, the only similarity is the spore colour.

Omphalotus illudens can be a very convincing look-alike from a distance, preferring almost the exact same habitats as G. subspectabilis. They can, however, be easily distinguished by their decurrent gills and light spore print.

Many Armillaria and Desarmillaria species also share habitats with G. subspectabilis and can look very similar from afar, but with a white spore print, these can also be easily distinguished.

Pholiota is another genus that can look very similar to Gymnopilus and grows in the same habitat, but Pholiota often shows a much wider variety of colours, including whites, browns, and yellows. They also often display a characteristically slimy cap, which Gymns will never have.

Part 4: Gymnopilus luteofolius Group
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Very recently I became acquainted with this beautiful reddish, yellowish, purple-ish mushroom that bruises blue and green (nearly the whole rainbow in one mushroom!?). Since it hadn't yet been reported from my area, I thought I'd likely never see it in person unless I traveled.

I turned out to be very wrong.

I encountered my first Gymnopilus luteofolius specimen not in the woods, or in woodchip mulch, or even growing out of anything at all. The first one I saw was in my coworker's hand-- he said he found it growing on a table, and knowing that I'm into mushrooms, he picked it for me. Astonishingly, over the next few weeks, over half of our tables were fruiting G. luteofolius!

Description: Of variable growth style, sometimes cespitose, sometimes gregarious, and occasionally solitary. Size also varies considerably, as well as colouration. Tones of deep purple-red, red-orange, and yellow-orange are all common, even from the same colonies. Gills are a stark pale-yellow, dropping large amounts of orange-yellow spores. The veil is highly cortinate, and the cap is dotted with reddish scales that tend to spread out as the mushroom matures, revealing more yellow-orange cap tissue. The brownish ring is present on some specimens, but tends to fall off easily. These bruise much stronger, dark blue-greens are not uncommon!



Habitat: This is where things get weird. G. luteofolius, or at least the species group as a whole, has a wide range of habitats. I've only found them growing from old wooden greenhouse bench tables that get daily watering. It seems like high amounts of moisture and humidity is a must for these fungi to flourish. Despite their bright colours, they can hide very well:



Strangely, in the Pacific Northwest and places in the South, these mushrooms can dominate mulch patches, something I've never seen around the northeast. However, many, many people report finding this mushroom growing from treated wood. In my case, a greenhouse bench. Others have said inside an old shed. At least two reports (including one from Stamets) have recorded the mushroom growing on boats. Old park benches also provide optimal habitat after heavy rain. In these settings, the mushroom might have a nearly cosmopolitan distribution as the international lumber industry ships colonized logs all over the world. In their natural habitats, very wet and damp areas are a must. For example, a decayed log half-submerged in water.

Seasonality seems unimportant for this species group. Where G. subspectabilis is very particular about its season, I've been picking G. luteofolius from spring through fall on outdoor watered tables. I'm still looking into the mystery surrounding the natural habitat vs. mulch habitats vs. treated wood. Several different species are probably present here!

Look-alikes: Tricholomopsis spp. are really the only ones to note. They can be very convincing from the top, but the stipe and gills don't match, and the scales don't often appear Gymn-like.

Part 5: Gymnopilus lepidotus group
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I have the least experience with this type of Gymn. I believe I found one once, in a plant we had shipped in from Florida. They tend to be much smaller and less robust, but still with a general semblance to the luteofolius group. They tend to grow in tropical or subtropical settings.



I still don't know exactly what these Gymns are. They are much more yellow-orange at maturity, very small, and do bruise blue-green. Special thanks to Alan Rockefeller, the DNA barcode sequence he ran on these mushrooms came back as a 100% match for Genbank samples published under several different names, often G. lepidotus, but also G. ochraeus described from Zimbabwe: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/130621703 Clearly there is a lot more to study regarding this genus!

Part 6: Gymnopilus luteus
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Thanks to Carnonos' great report regarding Gymnopilus luteus,  I was able to add some information regarding Gymnopilus luteus. Superficially, it might seem basically the same as G. subspectabilis, and I often see collections misidentified in both directions. The habitat, however, is almost completely different-- as well as the growth habit.

While G. subspectabilis is typically cespitose, it's usually more common for G. luteus to grow gregariously or in small clusters on old, decaying hardwood logs. In most cases, these are in mixed woodlands, with hardwoods such as Birch, Poplar, Basswood, various conifers, and Beech. These forests are usually very damp and dark with a developed underbrush. Damp environments seem key for this species (as well as G. luteofolius), and several members have noted different species of Gymns fruiting from logs half-submerged in rivers or streams. It's a very beautiful species indeed! Special thanks again to Carnonos for the information and photography:




Part 7: Loose Ends, Epilogue, and Beyond...
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Once you've found your Gymns, congratulations! You may enjoy them just as you would any other mushroom, although fresh Gymn tea seems to be the preferred method. Studies have shown that some Gymnopilus mushrooms contain kavalactones, which may contribute to the psychoactive effects. For psilocybin content, Unknownfungi did some excellent tests on related Gymnopilus species and found that they are about half as potent as Psilocybe cubensis.

I hope that this guide helps people get started looking for Gymns on the east coast and all over the world. I will probably update this as more information becomes available, or if I realize I've forgotten something.

Good luck and happy hunting! :laugh::thumbup:


Edited by Moria841 (12/04/23 03:37 PM)


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Moria841]
    #27973948 - 09/29/22 01:16 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Brilliant shit sir!!!!


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: MentalPariah]
    #27974048 - 09/29/22 02:21 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Well done!!:solidnod:


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Unknownfungi]
    #27975038 - 09/30/22 07:21 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Great info, thanks!

I can confirm the part about not having to go deep in the woods to find Gymn. Subspectabilis. I found them for the first time a few days ago. I was at a trail where I hunt for edibles and found these by the base of a dead tree in the parking lot!


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: BoogieManSam]
    #27975061 - 09/30/22 07:52 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

:takingnotes: This is awesome, thank you for the write-up!

I don’t know what it would be called but would you say that the lighter colored portion of the stipe at the top between the cap and sometimes present veil remnants/annulus is any identification help compared with look-alikes?

Recently was able to get subspectabilis to pin indoors and can’t wait for the season to hunt for more.


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Southerner]
    #27975302 - 09/30/22 12:23 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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The smell is very distinct! Strong mushroom-anise, licorice-like scent




Subspectabilis has that smell too? I thought that was unique to luteus? Does mushroom observer have their description wrong?
"Gymnopilus luteus is one of several species of Gymnopilus growing on hardwoods. It is difficult to distinguish in the field from G. subspectabilis, another species also occurring on hardwoods in North America, except by its distinct odour of anise when fresh."

Great write up by the way, very helpful and informative!


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Icyurmt]
    #27975421 - 09/30/22 02:22 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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The smell is very distinct! Strong mushroom-anise, licorice-like scent




Subspectabilis has that smell too? I thought that was unique to luteus? Does mushroom observer have their description wrong?
"Gymnopilus luteus is one of several species of Gymnopilus growing on hardwoods. It is difficult to distinguish in the field from G. subspectabilis, another species also occurring on hardwoods in North America, except by its distinct odour of anise when fresh."

Great write up by the way, very helpful and informative!




I think I would describe the smell of my assumed G. luteofolius from Norway in a similar way.
Still haven't got around to get a sequence though.


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Anglerfish]
    #27975688 - 09/30/22 06:34 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

awesome guide! ive noticed 2 distinct tastes in all my suspected luteofolius finds. i assumed the second unusually flavored ones were just from the type of mulch, as ive only found ones that taste different at the 1 specific location. 

unlike the usual mild friendlier tasting gyms i find; its a stronger, lingering, mulchy kind of taste. similar to how that darker spicy chemical-ish hardware/garden store mulch smells, if you imagine eating that lol

tea, in my recent experiences, is mandatory for gym preparation, when attempting to journey to those "farther" realms. its usually an ordeal to get 20+ grams fresh folius down, let alone 50+ (which amounts to an extremely pleasantly intense, extraordinarily visual, long lasting, invigorating, tall cup of tea from these local specimens.

although i dont see it too often, occasionally i do find some gyms attempting to muster an umbo, that you might find as equally interesting as i have ^_^  (unless of course you were just inferring to suspectabilis in part 3, and not gyms in general)



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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: 6The6Despised6One]
    #27977399 - 10/02/22 12:30 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Hey all wow i didn't expect to cause a commotion with this, really grateful for the support, you've all taught me a lot! :cool:

As for the anise smell, virtually all gymns i've picked have had that same smell, albeit at different intensities, perhaps G. luteus is just the strongest of all!

In terms of the stipe apex zone, yes freshly opened G. subapectabilis does usually exhibit that lighter feature when young, but so do some Cortinarius and others, there's this one i remember seeing that has this big orange floppy veil that opens up that also has a light stipe apex, but i'm blanking on the name, i think it was a phaeo-something. Plus, that zone can turn yellow-orange farely quickly as the mushroom ages


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Moria841]
    #27979256 - 10/03/22 09:44 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Great Info! :thumbup:


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: iggycrop]
    #27979384 - 10/03/22 11:00 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Found these today these good to go?


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Nwshroom]
    #27979405 - 10/03/22 11:23 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

What are the chances of finding these in newfoundland Canada? There is not alot of hardwood growing up here, mostly fir.
Its almost liberty caps season in a week or two. I'm wondering if I could be out looking for these too


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: OlSk00lFarmer]
    #27979739 - 10/03/22 03:48 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Found these today these good to go?



Pic?

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What are the chances of finding these in newfoundland Canada? There is not alot of hardwood growing up here, mostly fir.
Its almost liberty caps season in a week or two. I'm wondering if I could be out looking for these too



I would look into Gymnopilus voitkii, it has a similar habit but prefers fir trees, has been found in NL


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Moria841]
    #27979751 - 10/03/22 03:56 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Also updated: Another common host is the bradford pear trees that have been planted all over the suburban east coast


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Moria841]
    #27980742 - 10/04/22 07:17 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Great tutorial bro

:greatjob:


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Moria841]
    #27982433 - 10/05/22 08:27 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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In terms of the stipe apex zone, yes freshly opened G. subapectabilis does usually exhibit that lighter feature when young, but so do some Cortinarius and others, there's this one i remember seeing that has this big orange floppy veil that opens up that also has a light stipe apex, but i'm blanking on the name, i think it was a phaeo-something. Plus, that zone can turn yellow-orange farely quickly as the mushroom ages




Thanks for the great info and proper name for the zone.

One more question if you don’t mind: do you know if subspectabilis will come back in the same spot for multiple years?


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Southerner]
    #27982671 - 10/05/22 11:21 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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In terms of the stipe apex zone, yes freshly opened G. subapectabilis does usually exhibit that lighter feature when young, but so do some Cortinarius and others, there's this one i remember seeing that has this big orange floppy veil that opens up that also has a light stipe apex, but i'm blanking on the name, i think it was a phaeo-something. Plus, that zone can turn yellow-orange farely quickly as the mushroom ages




Thanks for the great info and proper name for the zone.

One more question if you don’t mind: do you know if subspectabilis will come back in the same spot for multiple years?



Yes! I pick from the same tree bases year after year, although it might not always be around the same time, certain patches might fruit a bit earlier or later from year tp year, so if you don't see them in one of your spots, check back the next week


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: RenegadeMycologist]
    #27982674 - 10/05/22 11:22 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Great tutorial bro

:greatjob:




Renegade Mycologist why did you edit out those photos of extremely rare undescribed Gymns? :stoned:


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    #27982804 - 10/05/22 01:25 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Renegade Mycologist why did you edit out those photos of extremely rare undescribed Gymns? :stoned:



I had my little kicks from shitposting so I didn't want to polute this interesting thread any more.

In all seriousness though, only after I realized my Gyms are in fact undescribed, I decided I want to be the author of this species and publish it officially, so to prevent possible competitors getting ahead of me, all the pictures are now classified.


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Moria841]
    #27984318 - 10/06/22 09:39 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Yes! I pick from the same tree bases year after year, although it might not always be around the same time, certain patches might fruit a bit earlier or later from year tp year, so if you don't see them in one of your spots, check back the next week




Awesome to know, thank you! Some rain hopefully coming in a few days so I’ll be sure to check that spot and see if anything’s stirring.


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Southerner]
    #27985003 - 10/06/22 05:08 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Thanks for this! Gonna head out early Saturday morning and see what I can find.
Been a wet week over here so I’m hopeful!


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Soloist]
    #27985006 - 10/06/22 05:10 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)


Things are getting started :cool:


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    #27993146 - 10/11/22 04:40 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Have thrown out heaps of what looked like psilocybe sp because they had a very strong anise smell... any other similar-ish species that share this odour?


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    #28000601 - 10/15/22 04:24 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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As for the anise smell, virtually all gymns i've picked have had that same smell, albeit at different intensities, perhaps G. luteus is just the strongest of all!





:takingnotes:  Several sources I've checked have this wrong then. Very good to know, thank you!


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    #28042514 - 11/09/22 05:42 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Updated to give some (limited) info on the other Gymns out there!


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    #28059465 - 11/19/22 04:28 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Nice work, very thorough
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    #28059472 - 11/19/22 05:11 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Does any species seem to produce more euphoria than another?


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    #28067986 - 11/24/22 08:56 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Wow this is the best thing I've read on shroomery it was exactly what I was looking for and it's so true I have become absolutely obsessed with finding Jim I don't know why all I know is that the only thing that will bring me happiness is finding Jim's haha ironically I introduced two of my friends to mushroom hunting and one of them is a little bit of an airhead but she consistently finds mushrooms all over the place and yesterday when we were all walking she found a whole bunch of gyms not sure what species but they were mostly yellow maybe a little orange had a rusty orange Veil that was covered in spores and turned hella blue at the stem when I messed with it so I was a little surprised and for the last couple days I've been just obsessed with trying to figure out a better way to find them because I much like you have searched every Forest around me for weeks and can't seem to come across them but as you said they don't necessarily grow super deep in the woods I feel like they enjoy their sunlight and Deep Woods maybe doesn't provide enough of that I should also mention that I live in Florida so it's always hot here and it's always wet but it's a little wetter than usual that being said when I was walking home tonight I came across what looked like a hamburger bun in the grass which turned out to be a mushroom so I picked it and I kept walking home and when I got home I pulled it out and I noticed that there was significant green bruising on the cap and I thought huh that reminds me of luteofolicus which I have only ever found one of and it was significantly smaller than this one I pretty much just assumed it was trash and so I broke it and within seconds it turned the deepest blue I've ever seen. You can check my previous post if you're interested in that I didn't mean to digress so far all I wanted to say was thank you for posting a guide about Jim's and I'm glad to know I'm not the only one that's absolutely obsessed with finding them finding all the other species such as pans, is pretty easy. Gymnopolis are harder to find and so it makes the hunt more exciting. I found a couple different strains but never more than one or two at a time so I have yet to actually enjoy a gymnopolis trip but rest assured it's coming haha thanks for the info though really great


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Jeruhmeh]
    #28068045 - 11/24/22 09:35 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Does any species seem to produce more euphoria than another?



Need more anecdotal reports to know for sure. Some have reported mild kava-like effects in addition to the psilocybin psychedelic effects (including myself). More people gotta try em!

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Wow this is the best thing I've read on shroomery it was exactly what I was looking for and it's so true I have become absolutely obsessed with finding Jim I don't know why all I know is that the only thing that will bring me happiness is finding Jim's haha ironically I introduced two of my friends to mushroom hunting and one of them is a little bit of an airhead but she consistently finds mushrooms all over the place and yesterday when we were all walking she found a whole bunch of gyms not sure what species but they were mostly yellow maybe a little orange had a rusty orange Veil that was covered in spores and turned hella blue at the stem when I messed with it so I was a little surprised and for the last couple days I've been just obsessed with trying to figure out a better way to find them because I much like you have searched every Forest around me for weeks and can't seem to come across them but as you said they don't necessarily grow super deep in the woods I feel like they enjoy their sunlight and Deep Woods maybe doesn't provide enough of that I should also mention that I live in Florida so it's always hot here and it's always wet but it's a little wetter than usual that being said when I was walking home tonight I came across what looked like a hamburger bun in the grass which turned out to be a mushroom so I picked it and I kept walking home and when I got home I pulled it out and I noticed that there was significant green bruising on the cap and I thought huh that reminds me of luteofolicus which I have only ever found one of and it was significantly smaller than this one I pretty much just assumed it was trash and so I broke it and within seconds it turned the deepest blue I've ever seen. You can check my previous post if you're interested in that I didn't mean to digress so far all I wanted to say was thank you for posting a guide about Jim's and I'm glad to know I'm not the only one that's absolutely obsessed with finding them finding all the other species such as pans, is pretty easy. Gymnopolis are harder to find and so it makes the hunt more exciting. I found a couple different strains but never more than one or two at a time so I have yet to actually enjoy a gymnopolis trip but rest assured it's coming haha thanks for the info though really great




Awesomeman, glad you enjoyed it! Florida is great for the really neat lepidotus clade and luteofolius clade Gymns, which I find to be particularly interesting. Keep up the good hunt my friend!


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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Moria841]
    #28068193 - 11/25/22 01:16 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Yeah I have found one of each of those species haha but really just one and sadly enough I didn't hold on to them because I didn't know what they were until I posted them on here haha I'll definitely be sure to catalog record as much as I can about them when I find them again I go out at least twice a day to different places haha won't be long it's just a little soggy here right now. Sun hasn't been out in days but man that first day or two when it does come out Boy they're going to be everywhere


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Moria841]
    #28096773 - 12/14/22 02:00 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

How do I save this for later? Posting till then to keep up with this.

Thanks for your work, it looks like it’s gonna be a good read:thumbup:


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Bardy] * 1
    #28097553 - 12/14/22 05:31 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Now we’re talking!



Three clusters all pretty close together. Must have missed the other two on previous hikes. You can see a few of the aborted mushrooms in a couple of the photos. One of them had some blue/green coloring but I couldn’t capture with a photo so I omitted. What a wonderful smell!

Last year I only found one mushroom similar to the large one photographed. Have you noticed a colony expanding like this before or more likely new colonies from the spores dropped last year?


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Southerner]
    #28098050 - 12/14/22 10:24 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

:congrats: Awesome!! Yes I have noticed colonies becoming locally dominant, at my old college G. subspectabilis was a very aggressive species that took over the entire campus in October. There was also a very small tract of forest between the student center and the main highway, which had maybe 1 out of every 5 trees hosting G. subspectabilis clusters. There were too many to count!


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    #28098356 - 12/15/22 07:40 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

:excellent: Going to inoculate everything :lol: You ever messed with starting outdoor spots? I buried the bottom of the cluster from these most recent. Burying grains and spent sub didn’t do much this year but may take a year to establish.

Also, how would I go about requesting G. subspectabilis being added under Texas in the hunting info section? I’ll toss these photos up on mushroomobserver anyhow.

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    #28110984 - 12/24/22 11:13 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Hey all, thanks for tuning in to this week's updates on all things Gymnopilus.

Alan has informed me that G. thiersii is actually a synonym for G. luteofolius. It seems like the species is quite variable andd versatile!


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Moria841]
    #28111006 - 12/24/22 11:24 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Never heard them called that.





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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Moria841]
    #28118447 - 12/31/22 07:03 AM (1 year, 27 days ago)

Nice work, Moria841!

I just wanted to briefly add something here. Some identifiers and hunters may really benefit by co-exploring the following links:

1. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/165
2. https://mushroomobserver.org/species_list/show_species_list/2079
3. https://mushroomobserver.org/species_list/show_species_list/2081
4. https://mushroomobserver.org/species_list/show_species_list/1356
5. https://mushroomobserver.org/species_list/show_species_list/1419

The trick with Gymnopilus identification is to work together, and go deep with the DNA, microscopy, and eventually emending the descriptions seen here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jjy11na4eagin7n/NorthAmericanSpeciesofGymnopilus_L.R.HESLER.pdf?dl=0

I'd like to cordially encourage all of you to try to contribute a piece of the Gymnopilus puzzle in 2023 with excellence in photography. This approach must be inclusive of *taxonomic characters* being captured in photos using intense effort. Cheers to you all!


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Thomas Envisio]
    #28119003 - 12/31/22 03:59 PM (1 year, 27 days ago)

Thanks so much, i'll add those to the front page when I get a chance!


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    #28122300 - 01/03/23 09:07 AM (1 year, 24 days ago)

I believe another vital thing to do when dealing with the current study of Gymnopilus is to create a separate XLS spreadsheet (Excel, Libre Calc, Etc.). It should simply show every single known Gymnopilus observation/record along with the species of tree/wood associated with it. I recommend inviting multiple people to do this, rather than making this a one-person show. Cheers!

One graphic/illustration resource that mushroom hunters need is a global wood/tree identification illustration resource that is profoundly intuitive, easy, fast, and accurate. If someone out there is looking for meaningful non-profit work, this is yet another great opportunity to contribute to mycology in a selfless, excellent manner.


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Thomas Envisio] * 1
    #28130092 - 01/08/23 01:55 AM (1 year, 19 days ago)

did you see inaturalist, you can query such thangs in gbif like this


https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/search?q=Gymnopilus




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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Moria841]
    #28144399 - 01/17/23 12:36 PM (1 year, 10 days ago)

Great pics do they grow in Northern California?


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Great pics do they grow in Northern California?




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    #28153841 - 01/23/23 01:24 PM (1 year, 4 days ago)

In case it may benefit some identifiers, here's an interesting paper:

New species in the Gymnopilus junonius group (Basidiomycota: Agaricales)
https://cdnsciencepub.com/doi/abs/10.1139/cjb-2020-0006


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    #28154786 - 01/23/23 11:38 PM (1 year, 3 days ago)

Thank you for the read!


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    #28284421 - 04/18/23 08:11 PM (9 months, 5 days ago)

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    #28287897 - 04/21/23 09:23 AM (9 months, 2 days ago)

In case you guys haven't seen this...

Here's the Gymno place.

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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Lucis]
    #28477580 - 09/21/23 11:38 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)






Not much bruising on these but they definitely give me a big smile but after a while of heavy drinking, sitting down feels like I'm in a rocking boat lol
My buddy's thought it was pretty funny while we were camping:lmafo: especially when you gotta make it from the fire to the tent.
I have a jar full of them and swear they are just a good mood enhancement sober.

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Re: Moria's Gymnopilus subspectabilis Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Lucis]
    #28477660 - 09/21/23 01:27 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Really looking forward to getting out and hunting this year…
To all you NJ/NY area guys, when would be the best time to start looking?


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    #28477756 - 09/21/23 03:06 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

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Not much bruising on these but they definitely give me a big smile but after a while of heavy drinking, sitting down feels like I'm in a rocking boat lol
My buddy's thought it was pretty funny while we were camping:lmafo: especially when you gotta make it from the fire to the tent.
I have a jar full of them and swear they are just a good mood enhancement sober.

I'd send spore samples to whomever'



Those are not the Gymns you're looking for...

Nah but in all seriousness, those don't look like an active species. They remind me of G. penetrans, or maybe G. liquiritae. They are absolutely Gymns though, so nice find! Your experience likely was placebo, but since other Gymns are known to produce bioactive kavalactones, it could have been a genuine psychoactive effect. More research is needed here for sure!


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    #28477759 - 09/21/23 03:10 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

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Really looking forward to getting out and hunting this year…
To all you NJ/NY area guys, when would be the best time to start looking?



I start checking my spots now, but full clusters of large fruits typically don't pop up until October around me. Subspectabilis in particular can take over a week for pins to form mature mushrooms. I've even watched them stall during a week of dry weather, before maturing the following week after some rains


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    #28477801 - 09/21/23 03:53 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Awesome, thanks for the heads up.
I’ll be keeping my eye out for sure.
On a side note I’ll be trying the tea I made from the flush I found back in June either this Saturday or the next depending on how bad the rain is.
I’m stoked and hope I’ll finally get my psychedelic feet wet!


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    #28478596 - 09/22/23 11:10 AM (4 months, 3 days ago)

It hasn't happened just once. I had taken these forehand for several days spaced out on and off as a test of effect, nothing crazy psychedelic wise, but I haven't gone bold yet :rockon:
These give the biggest smile at 1g, nothing overwhelming but I catch myself smiling and just doing things without the constant forethought I get. (Fuck anxiety)
Buttt when I did more than 2 grams in a afternoon I was drinking. An taking a gram,, then 2 more later on(1hour), two nights in a row, I was just happier than shit and goofy. But later when it was time to go to sleep and it's a 12 pack and a day under the sun later I was rocking on a boat by the camp fire and in bed both nights lol vertigo~~
I like them either way and would love a compound analysis! Anyone got a mail in lab I could send a sample and get results?? Hit the :pm:
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    #28480870 - 09/24/23 11:20 AM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Thanks Moria for the excellent guide.

I love the luteofolius photo with all different colors present. You can almost tell it's psychoactive :wink: :mushroom2:


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    #28486929 - 09/29/23 05:43 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

FYI 1st NY/NJ fall flush in my neighborhood ~ in a park



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    #28490029 - 10/02/23 02:15 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

Thanks G, just checked my spots too and found some pins starting up!



Gonna be a while until they mature though, lol...



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    #28493186 - 10/05/23 02:55 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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FYI 1st NY/NJ fall flush in my neighborhood ~ in a park



Have a nice season
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Thanks G, just checked my spots too and found some pins starting up!



Gonna be a while until they mature though, lol...



Luteofolius is coming up again too




Hell yeah guys that give me hope! I’m going to go out hunting tomorrow and most likely next week.
Btw the tea I made definitely did what I wanted it to do. It was amazing. I’m no longer a psychedelic virgin haha
Still writing up the report but when I’m done I’ll post a link here too in case anyone is curious. It was = to 101 grams fresh fruit.


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    #28495025 - 10/06/23 11:55 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

Figured I'd add the pictures too this thread.
Picked yesterday in North Indiana.


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    #28497284 - 10/09/23 05:47 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

Been checking on my red maple that provided me with a flush back in June…

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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Soloist]
    #28497664 - 10/09/23 01:36 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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Been checking on my red maple that provided me with a flush back in June…

New pin set here we gooooo





Oooo yummy!

Has anyone ever heard on anyone recording themselves using a salt barrier or just sprinkling some around outdoor finds as a potential slug/snail deterrent.
Could be a good idea in potentially clamming a good bit more un-chewed goodies?
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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: XnMe]
    #28497892 - 10/09/23 05:11 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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Has anyone ever heard on anyone recording themselves using a salt barrier or just sprinkling some around outdoor finds as a potential slug/snail deterrent.
Could be a good idea in potentially clamming a good bit more un-chewed goodies?
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I have heard of people using crushed eggshells too..


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Soloist] * 1
    #28497894 - 10/09/23 05:12 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

Today might be a jackpot day…(still wanna confirm ID)



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    #28497900 - 10/09/23 05:19 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

:hereyougo:


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    #28497951 - 10/09/23 05:55 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

588g. and some green staining



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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Soloist]
    #28498190 - 10/09/23 08:52 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Jackpot indeed! Nice! :headbang3:


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: XnMe]
    #28501833 - 10/12/23 03:26 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

Just wanted to share with you guys my trip report from the fall equinox

89g Gymnopilus subspectibils tea


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: XnMe]
    #28501839 - 10/12/23 03:30 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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Jackpot indeed! Nice! :headbang3:




I gotta pick your brain some more about Rapéh my man,  not to assume haha


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Soloist]
    #28510367 - 10/19/23 10:17 AM (3 months, 7 days ago)

First time in a couple years found a G. speciosissimus:



This was early in the season (October 5 or so) where I normally hunt for G. subspectabilis. It's an early 20th-century neighborhood with a lot of current+former oak trees. Just over 1kg from this basketball-sized mass. Turned it into my strongest gym trip so far!


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: LeafRaker]
    #28510783 - 10/19/23 04:32 PM (3 months, 7 days ago)

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First time in a couple years found a G. speciosissimus:



This was early in the season (October 5 or so) where I normally hunt for G. subspectabilis. It's an early 20th-century neighborhood with a lot of current+former oak trees. Just over 1kg from this basketball-sized mass. Turned it into my strongest gym trip so far!




That looks like a nice flush!
I didn’t know that Gymn was active, I’m only really tuned into the subs.
What’s your general location if you don’t mind me asking?


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Soloist]
    #28511061 - 10/19/23 08:27 PM (3 months, 6 days ago)

Maryland west of I-95.


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: LeafRaker]
    #28511191 - 10/19/23 11:06 PM (3 months, 6 days ago)

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First time in a couple years found a G. speciosissimus:



This was early in the season (October 5 or so) where I normally hunt for G. subspectabilis. It's an early 20th-century neighborhood with a lot of current+former oak trees. Just over 1kg from this basketball-sized mass. Turned it into my strongest gym trip so far!



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    #28511204 - 10/19/23 11:18 PM (3 months, 6 days ago)


A really pristine harvest, saved this cluster with perfect timing in case the rains this weekend ruin them. First real harvest of the season for me.

Have fun out there guys, and if anyone notices anything peculiar about their gymns, let me know! We still don't know a ton about their growth habits and I'm still investigating this genus as a whole so I can make this guide more comprehensive!

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    #28511441 - 10/20/23 07:35 AM (3 months, 6 days ago)

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Quote:

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First time in a couple years found a G. speciosissimus:



This was early in the season (October 5 or so) where I normally hunt for G. subspectabilis. It's an early 20th-century neighborhood with a lot of current+former oak trees. Just over 1kg from this basketball-sized mass. Turned it into my strongest gym trip so far!



Amazing!






A day later I came back to photograph the sporegasm money shot. Those orange leaves are periwinkles covered in spores. Get ready for a mess if you try to get your hands on these!


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Moria841]
    #28514530 - 10/22/23 06:15 PM (3 months, 4 days ago)

Stumbled across these last night, thought they looked cool, was having a hard time identifying them then just happened to peek in here to see what this thread was about haha I only found 3 little guys all together, I'll have to keep my eyes open over there for a couple weeks!




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    #28514562 - 10/22/23 06:51 PM (3 months, 4 days ago)

Spreading’ that Gymn love




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    #28514569 - 10/22/23 06:58 PM (3 months, 4 days ago)

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Stumbled across these last night, thought they looked cool, was having a hard time identifying them then just happened to peek in here to see what this thread was about haha I only found 3 little guys all together, I'll have to keep my eyes open over there for a couple weeks!







I’m no gym expert, but those don’t really look like gyms to me. Mainly because I’ve found similar that definitely weren’t, and that veil fragment on the top left of the cap doesn’t look right to me.
Gymns are part or the Cortinarius family, they have cobweb like veils.
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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Soloist]
    #28514754 - 10/22/23 09:26 PM (3 months, 3 days ago)

Thank you! Sorry to be posting multiple times for the same thing, but I just stumbled on these, and they might be this time haha!








UPDATE:Did a spore print, all I had was wax paper though haha, as best as I can tell the spores are a rusty orange color I'll try to include a photo


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: JonnyDivine]
    #28515106 - 10/23/23 09:00 AM (3 months, 3 days ago)

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Thank you! Sorry to be posting multiple times for the same thing, but I just stumbled on these, and they might be this time haha!




Nope, still not the ones.

You're probably better off asking for an ID request in a new post rather than in this pinned guide thread.

Also, if you are in Washington, as in the state, you should familiarize yourself with the Gymnopilus species that occur in your area and their growth habits. I believe those would be G. luteofolius and G. voitkii (if the latter actually contains psychoactive tryptamines, which I don't believe has been established yet). G. Luteofolius is pretty distinctive looking.

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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Lignicolous]
    #28515234 - 10/23/23 12:39 PM (3 months, 3 days ago)

Sounds good! Thank you for the advice and information!! (Should I delete those posts? I'm new to forum etiquette)


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    #28515790 - 10/23/23 07:44 PM (3 months, 3 days ago)

Nah, I wouldn’t man. No need. Somebody else could find these posts useful down the line.
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    #28517130 - 10/24/23 08:32 PM (3 months, 1 day ago)

Sounds good, thank you!


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: JonnyDivine]
    #28517860 - 10/25/23 03:05 PM (3 months, 1 day ago)



The ones I missed and the ones I won't.


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    #28518007 - 10/25/23 05:56 PM (3 months, 1 day ago)

:solidnod:


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Soloist]
    #28518415 - 10/26/23 01:41 AM (3 months, 18 hours ago)








Hello, I’m new to foraging gyms but I have experience in other categories, I currently don’t have a microscope for proper identification, but I will be taking spore prints. To best help me identify. Of course I did not take spore prints of the mushrooms above because they were seeming rotted and slugged, but I’m wondering do these look to be gymnopilus? I’m more wondering if the 2 caps growing directly from the base of the tree. I understand that they most likely are not active and there’s no proper way to identify from my photos but I was just sharing some of my recent findings in hope that I’m on the right track.


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Alchemyst]
    #28518419 - 10/26/23 01:45 AM (3 months, 18 hours ago)

Also I did not notice any bruising.. I held onto a fruit while hiking for a good 10 minutes to no avail. I did see what seemed like a very light tint of bluing on the base of the stipe but it could have been placebo.


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Alchemyst]
    #28518455 - 10/26/23 02:40 AM (3 months, 17 hours ago)

I'm not a TI, but I'm a Gym hunter who's 99/100 sure those are Gyms, as the scaly cap, color, gills, and growth habit look right. I'm only a bit less than 99/100 on those being G. subspectabilis, but since I'm not up on G. lutes and it's close relatives I'm a bit shy about species.

Good job! Please note the location as you are likely to see more fruits there in the future!


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    #28518463 - 10/26/23 02:52 AM (3 months, 17 hours ago)

This pic, combined with Moira's earlier post(s) about harvesting or leaving fruits to grow, makes me wonder if we should be discussing how to handle found subspects. I make a point of harvesting ASAP, I'm in MD and not only do the specimens not seem to grow much once they appear, there's a really high likelihood of their rotting in very short order. The fastest rotting, IME, are when the myc is frisbee-sized and jam-picked with lots of pins with a few larger fruits.


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: LeafRaker]
    #28518570 - 10/26/23 06:58 AM (3 months, 13 hours ago)


Old compared to young.
Look at the color change cause of the spores.


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: XnMe]
    #28519415 - 10/26/23 08:31 PM (2 months, 30 days ago)

Damn northerners with your early Gymnopilus season. Beautiful finds so far! Y’all getting me excited for the cooler weather.

Quick question about subspectabilis. Does anyone know if a freeze has anything to do with setting fruit? Looks like we’re going to get a two or three week earlier freeze this year here in the south so wondering if I should be checking the spots a bit earlier. Usually find the subspectabilis around early to mid December where I’m at.


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    #28519689 - 10/27/23 12:46 AM (2 months, 30 days ago)

Thank you for this post and discussion! I happened upon my first G luteofolius (most likely) accidentally this week, quite a lot of them, ~650g and they’re pretty dry. They’re  already partly dried out - we had one rain and went back to dry. Have been trying to decide if I should make some tea and dry some. Would love any advice.

If it’s better to ditch the partially dried ones and wait for a fresh flush, I could do that too.

I’ll add a couple of pics here, just for reference. There are more in the ID thread I posted.

** ignore the buchwaldoboletus in the background. Collecting those for someone trying to culture them. I know those are an entirely different thing.


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    #28519849 - 10/27/23 07:36 AM (2 months, 30 days ago)

They look perfectly good. Beautiful haul!


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    #28521168 - 10/28/23 01:23 PM (2 months, 29 days ago)

My patch is flushing again :mushroom2:




Earlier this month






Growing on the decomposing roots of a fruit tree that I cut down a 4-5 years ago.

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Growing on the decomposing roots of a fruit tree that I cut down a 4-5 years ago.

Thinking about getting some wood chips and adding them to see if I can keep it growing, anyone try that and think it will work?




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    #28522461 - 10/29/23 02:40 PM (2 months, 28 days ago)

Can't hurt is right. Might get some applewood chips and incorporate. Gotta be stealthy-ish, this patch is in my front yard :rofl: don't want to draw attention to it

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    #28545308 - 11/16/23 01:34 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

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Thinking about getting some wood chips and adding them to see if I can keep it growing, anyone try that and think it will work?





I’d say it’s definitely worth a shot I found a 1 lb + flush on an old stump that was chewed up by a stump grinder (I assume).
Fine chips essentially.



I also took a little less then a shopping bags worth of myc/chips/spawn and buried it in my backyard in a few spots that have old stumps/ root systems 🤞🏻


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Soloist] * 1
    #28545313 - 11/16/23 01:40 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

Wanted to show off this monster 4 1/2lb flush a found a few weeks ago, along with the 1+lb flush from the above post and the tea making session that ensued!

(Only took the fresh flush shown with the sharpie, left the older flush to do its thing)








Each set of cups is about 110 g. Fresh equivalent. Ended up with 24 full doses frozen and at the ready.
(There is actually another 3 full doses that aren’t in the picture, forgot to pour the rest of the jug before I snapped the pic)


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Soloist]
    #28545378 - 11/16/23 02:59 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

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Soloist said:
Wanted to show off this monster 4 1/2lb flush a found a few weeks ago, along with the 1+lb flush from the above post and the tea making session that ensued!

(Only took the fresh flush shown with the sharpie, left the older flush to do its thing)








Each set of cups is about 110 g. Fresh equivalent. Ended up with 24 full doses frozen and at the ready.
(There is actually another 3 full doses that aren’t in the picture, forgot to pour the rest of the jug before I snapped the pic)



Hell yeah man! That's the Gymn guarantee, they may be weaker than other stuff but you're often guaranteed a dozen+ doses from each flush!


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: Moria841]
    #28545576 - 11/16/23 06:11 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

Damn soloist :congrats:
I've definitely found some places I need to keep checking and remember for next year so I can get a good haul, cause even if I found rotten ones I would stuff them into rotten logs or wood piles close around in any attempt they might spread.
I would have been walking out the woods like
:feelingfunky:


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gymns!) [Re: XnMe]
    #28546224 - 11/17/23 09:08 AM (2 months, 9 days ago)

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Moria841 said:

Hell yeah man! That's the Gymn guarantee, they may be weaker than other stuff but you're often guaranteed a dozen+ doses from each flush!





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Damn soloist :congrats:
I've definitely found some places I need to keep checking and remember for next year so I can get a good haul, cause even if I found rotten ones I would stuff them into rotten logs or wood piles close around in any attempt they might spread.
I would have been walking out the woods like
:feelingfunky:




I only plan on tripping on full moons and solstice/equinoxes so it’s a great feeling that knowing I’m stocked for the foreseeable future, that’s not to say I don’t want to try my skills at cubes haha.
I love the hunt and finding the medicine in its natural habitat too, 24/7 head on a swivel for mushrooms.
I like the fact that I can find so much that I could never use, and be able to give some to people who don’t have the knowledge to find their own.

I’ve absolutely put rotten ones on stump ect too in hopes to expand my spots.
I was definitely that excited when I found these haha. Funny thing is it was along a busy road…even funnier that NO BODY else knows that these are what they are haha, my little secret.
Some guy walking his dog even dropped the “fun-gi” joke as I was harvesting these 😂


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gyms!) [Re: Moria841]
    #28550923 - 11/20/23 10:21 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)




Do these look like they are gyms? If not what would you say they are? Found growing from mulched garden in tx only found 2 small clusters and yes only found in clusters of 4 or so all clustered together


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gyms!) [Re: Simpleman89]
    #28551785 - 11/21/23 04:11 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)

I’m gonna say def not Gyms, those look more like a Pluteus to me.


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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gyms!) [Re: Soloist] * 1
    #28552545 - 11/22/23 08:23 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

My G. subspectabilis patch putting a first cluster out in East Texas. This is about a month earlier (photo taken 11/14) than I typically find them. Maybe out a bit earlier from the earlier first freeze, maturity of the colony, or I’ve been missing a first flush for the last couple years :lol:



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Re: Moria's updated Gymnopilus Guide (How to Find Laughing Gyms!) [Re: Southerner]
    #28553309 - 11/22/23 09:20 PM (2 months, 3 days ago)

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My G. subspectabilis patch putting a first cluster out in East Texas. This is about a month earlier (photo taken 11/14) than I typically find them. Maybe out a bit earlier from the earlier first freeze, maturity of the colony, or I’ve been missing a first flush for the last couple years :lol:






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