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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27979851 - 10/03/22 05:36 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #27979852 - 10/03/22 05:37 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Black women playing old flutes is the new gay cake


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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27979853 - 10/03/22 05:38 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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All of this because I made the uncontroversial claim that wikipedia is more credible than pure speculation.




  The butterfly effect . Almost all of the extreme partisan division we see unfolding today was started by someone in Colorado being forced to make a gay cake .




I had to quote it. 

Good job detective, you’ve solved every case all at once.  :cheers:


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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: Enlil]
    #27979865 - 10/03/22 05:41 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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All of this because I made the uncontroversial claim that wikipedia is more credible than pure speculation.



No.  All of this because Tulipslave asked:
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The question presented to you is, do you have proof Wikipedia is a credible source, or do YOU BELIEVE it to be a credible source?



Your answer (after my reply) was:
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I don't believe it is credible.




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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #27979891 - 10/03/22 05:58 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Wikipedia's co-founder doesn't trust is as much anymore.

Wikipedia co-founder says site is now ‘propaganda’ for left-leaning ‘establishment’





I took the opportunity to peruse this link some time back, since it's basically Falcon91Wolvrn03's boilerplate deflection to any post that links to a Wikipedia article. Here's what I found:


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On Wikipedia’s Left-wing bias:
You can’t cite the Daily Mail at all. You can’t cite Fox News on socio-political issues either. It’s banned. So what does that mean? It means that if a controversy does not appear in the mainstream centre-Left media, then it’s not going to appear on Wikipedia.




Being Wikipedia, the discussion underpinning this decision is publicly available (to both read and participate) - read here - is Falcon91Wolvrn03's argument that Fox News is a reliable source for politics and science? Perhaps they can give more insight instead of letting Larry Sanger speak for them.


Especially when we see the direction Larry takes his criticism:

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On Covid:
If you look at the articles that Wikipedia has, you can just see how they are simply mouthing the view of the World Economic Council or World Economic Forum, and the World Health Organisation, the CDC and various other establishment mouthpieces like Fauci — they take their cues from them… There’s a global enforcement of a certain point of view, which is amazing to me amazing to a libertarian, or a liberty-loving conservative.




Is Falcon91Wolvrn03 suggesting that Wikipedia is unreliable because it doesn't publish covid disinformation?


Continuing down Larry's rabbit hole:

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In what ways other than politics does that establishment view come across?
Eastern medicine is basically called quackery in dismissive, quite judgmental, language and so forth. It’s done, apparently without any compunctions at all. Then when it comes to Christianity, the viewpoint on Christianity given is the liberal one that would be found in mainline denominations and liberal Catholicism as opposed to the actual Bible-believing fundamentalist type viewpoint.




Is Falcon91Wolvrn03 suggesting that Wikipedia is unreliable because it explicitly states when traditional medicine doesn't have scientific-backing? Or because it discusses Christianity by way of Catholicism instead of Fundamentalism? I don't think this latter claim is even true, glancing at Wikipedia's article on Christianity.



While Wikipedia is a convenient place to quickly find a multitude of sources on a specific topic, the articles are only as reliable as the specific sources cited. It's not a holy grail of truth, and shouldn't be treated as such. But it really doesn't seem like this Larry guy is someone with opinions worth listening to.




You found a few good examples of what Wikipedia won't publish, but they give the establishment narrative very heavy favoritism, regardless of whether the other side has equal or more evidence.


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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27980221 - 10/03/22 08:39 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I didn't find them. Those examples are taken directly from the interview you referred to - they're quite literally the leading points chosen to represent its content.

Why are you using this interview to prove your point, if you only agree with the title?


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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27980230 - 10/03/22 08:42 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Enlil said:
All of this because I made the uncontroversial claim that wikipedia is more credible than pure speculation.



No.  All of this because Tulipslave asked:
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Tulipslave said:
The question presented to you is, do you have proof Wikipedia is a credible source, or do YOU BELIEVE it to be a credible source?



Your answer (after my reply) was:
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Enlil said:
I don't believe it is credible.






That wasn't my complete answer.


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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #27980327 - 10/03/22 09:38 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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I didn't find them. Those examples are taken directly from the interview you referred to - they're quite literally the leading points chosen to represent its content.

Why are you using this interview to prove your point, if you only agree with the title?




Why does he endlessly make disingenuous arguments?


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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27981944 - 10/04/22 08:43 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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I maintain, black op by russia.

they know europe will no longer import russian gas and they need an excuse to rile up their population against the Enemy.




Except>

https://twitter.com/PhilConte2/status/1576179271843708930?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1576179271843708930%7Ctwgr%5Ede3f1c31df8801ff200182d593dabbc8d58e9d02%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tf1info.fr%2Finternational%2Fnord-stream-les-etats-unis-ont-ils-annonce-des-2014-leur-volonte-de-couper-les-gazoducs-russes-2234232.html

And...

This fuckwit giving the game away in February '22 >



The US have enviously and greedily eyed the Russian energy supply to Europe and plotted a 'realignment' of such trade in America's favour for years.

How much will it cost us to ship fracked gas to Europe from America compared to piping it in from our closest neighbour, Russia?


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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: deucedbi9]
    #27982029 - 10/04/22 09:50 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

The sooner they figure out an energy system that doesn't see them beholden to a country that will literally hold them hostage the better.

It'd be a good time to sell all the kings shit and build some windmills amirite


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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: twighead]
    #27982036 - 10/04/22 09:53 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Russia is going to be fucked for many decades to come after this war.


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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: 336]
    #27982039 - 10/04/22 09:57 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I hate windmills. Too often they destroy the beauty of the landscape. That said I'm all in on solar. You can legit have all roofs be solar panels and we'd be good.


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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: 336]
    #27982052 - 10/04/22 10:01 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Most of the places I've seen windmills were desolate in the first place :shrug:



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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: twighead]
    #27982054 - 10/04/22 10:02 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

There are very few windmills around.  Most mills are electrically powered these days.  There are quite a few wind turbines, however.


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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #27982061 - 10/04/22 10:07 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Yes true, actual 'windmills' are quite aesthetic even if they're not powered by waterwheels anymore

Windmills and tulips - ya'll know a country is ballin' when they can specialize in such a useless crop



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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: 336]
    #27982073 - 10/04/22 10:12 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

fkn grammar nazis; feast your eyes on these fkn 'wind-turbines';fkn spawns of satan



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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: 336] * 1
    #27982076 - 10/04/22 10:14 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

That’s the entrance to the forbidden zone



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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: 336]
    #27982078 - 10/04/22 10:15 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Those are fucking gorgeous.  Wind turbines are such beautiful natural things.


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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: 336]
    #27982090 - 10/04/22 10:22 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Trust me; if there was a structure that embodied the desecration of sacred land it would be those fucking wind 'turbines'.


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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: 336] * 2
    #27982095 - 10/04/22 10:23 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

First, you're one of the last people I would ever trust.  I certainly don't see anything sacred about the land nor anything profane about human ingenuity. 

Remember that time you made 1000 puppets because you were butthurt about being banned?  That was a desecration of this sacred site.


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