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Stable Genius
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: Enlil] 1
#27978610 - 10/02/22 07:59 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Russia should pay for the repairs.
How come?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: twighead] 1
#27978621 - 10/02/22 08:09 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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twighead said: Dudes butthurt he was kicked out of the project in 02' and then made his own failed version... lol he was only working on it for 1 year who gives a shit what he says
So we should rely on YOU as the expert on Wikipedia? 
It's pretty obvious just from reading Wikipedia today that's what's happened. They now berate anyone who speaks up against the establishment narrative.
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Enlil
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: Stable Genius]
#27978626 - 10/02/22 08:14 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Stable Genius said:
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Enlil said: Russia should pay for the repairs.
How come?
Since they likely damaged it
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Falcon91Wolvrn03
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: Stable Genius] 1
#27978628 - 10/02/22 08:19 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I think Enlil wants to take the crown from koods.
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Tulipslave
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: Enlil]
#27978709 - 10/02/22 08:56 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Enlil said:
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Stable Genius said:
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Enlil said: Russia should pay for the repairs.
How come?
Since they likely damaged it
There's logical disconnect there; "likely" being the key to the disconnect.
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twighead
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#27978716 - 10/02/22 08:58 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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twighead said: Dudes butthurt he was kicked out of the project in 02' and then made his own failed version... lol he was only working on it for 1 year who gives a shit what he says
So we should rely on YOU as the expert on Wikipedia? 
It's pretty obvious just from reading Wikipedia today that's what's happened. They now berate anyone who speaks up against the establishment narrative.
That's just your bias blinding you, I didn't claim to be an expert - but I can recognize a sour ass mf when I see one lmao
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: 336]
#27978726 - 10/02/22 09:03 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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it's all fubar. i'm fkn tired of the elite puppeteering us.
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Enlil
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: 336]
#27978734 - 10/02/22 09:05 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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The elite
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: 336]
#27978739 - 10/02/22 09:07 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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The concept is quite ridiculous, isn't it? Not like the world was controlled by royal families openly for thousands of years...
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Enlil
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: 336]
#27978745 - 10/02/22 09:10 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Sounds like bullshit
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: 336]
#27978750 - 10/02/22 09:11 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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How much do they pay you Agent Enlil?
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shivas.wisdom
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 3
#27979413 - 10/03/22 11:33 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Wikipedia's co-founder doesn't trust is as much anymore.
Wikipedia co-founder says site is now ‘propaganda’ for left-leaning ‘establishment’
I took the opportunity to peruse this link some time back, since it's basically Falcon91Wolvrn03's boilerplate deflection to any post that links to a Wikipedia article. Here's what I found:
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On Wikipedia’s Left-wing bias: You can’t cite the Daily Mail at all. You can’t cite Fox News on socio-political issues either. It’s banned. So what does that mean? It means that if a controversy does not appear in the mainstream centre-Left media, then it’s not going to appear on Wikipedia.
Being Wikipedia, the discussion underpinning this decision is publicly available (to both read and participate) - read here - is Falcon91Wolvrn03's argument that Fox News is a reliable source for politics and science? Perhaps they can give more insight instead of letting Larry Sanger speak for them.
Especially when we see the direction Larry takes his criticism:
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On Covid: If you look at the articles that Wikipedia has, you can just see how they are simply mouthing the view of the World Economic Council or World Economic Forum, and the World Health Organisation, the CDC and various other establishment mouthpieces like Fauci — they take their cues from them… There’s a global enforcement of a certain point of view, which is amazing to me amazing to a libertarian, or a liberty-loving conservative.
Is Falcon91Wolvrn03 suggesting that Wikipedia is unreliable because it doesn't publish covid disinformation?
Continuing down Larry's rabbit hole:
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In what ways other than politics does that establishment view come across? Eastern medicine is basically called quackery in dismissive, quite judgmental, language and so forth. It’s done, apparently without any compunctions at all. Then when it comes to Christianity, the viewpoint on Christianity given is the liberal one that would be found in mainline denominations and liberal Catholicism as opposed to the actual Bible-believing fundamentalist type viewpoint.
Is Falcon91Wolvrn03 suggesting that Wikipedia is unreliable because it explicitly states when traditional medicine doesn't have scientific-backing? Or because it discusses Christianity by way of Catholicism instead of Fundamentalism? I don't think this latter claim is even true, glancing at Wikipedia's article on Christianity.
While Wikipedia is a convenient place to quickly find a multitude of sources on a specific topic, the articles are only as reliable as the specific sources cited. It's not a holy grail of truth, and shouldn't be treated as such. But it really doesn't seem like this Larry guy is someone with opinions worth listening to.
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#27979420 - 10/03/22 11:38 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Nicely done. Quality postin’ matey
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: The Blind Ass]
#27979430 - 10/03/22 11:49 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Well shiver me timbers and blow me down!
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: shivas.wisdom] 1
#27979433 - 10/03/22 11:50 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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All of this because I made the uncontroversial claim that wikipedia is more credible than pure speculation.
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: Enlil]
#27979623 - 10/03/22 02:03 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Well, as Shivas just pointed out, a lot of conservatives are Big Mad that Wikipedia doesn't allow rampant speculation to be published as established fact.
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Asante
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: Kryptos] 1
#27979663 - 10/03/22 02:38 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Correct wikipedia use involves a lot of digging in the sources links and separate searches on aspects of the topic on different tabs.
If you research, wikipedia is a good start, if you just read what the artticle says as the definitive word, you're on the wrong track often.
Researching things is always the better move.
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: Asante] 1
#27979673 - 10/03/22 02:53 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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When I was in high school Wikipedia wasn't yet a thing, at least not a popular one. When I hit college all of sudden everybody was using it for everything. Then we got like halfway through the first semester and the prof started failing everybody because wikipedia isn't even a secondary source. I think we were all grappling with how to use it and understand how it would evolve at the time.
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SirTripAlot
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: christopera]
#27979716 - 10/03/22 03:33 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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If its said on the internet, it must be true. Same with non fiction books, though. They are only as accurate as the reference section. I read alot of history; only for the reference section to completely discredit what the author wrote.
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Re: someone is blowing up pipelines / are they are trying to start WW3? [Re: SirTripAlot] 2
#27979847 - 10/03/22 05:35 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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All of this because I made the uncontroversial claim that wikipedia is more credible than pure speculation.
The butterfly effect . Almost all of the extreme partisan division we see unfolding today was started by someone in Colorado being forced to make a gay cake .
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