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Re: Sustainable Cultivation Practices- an Unofficial Thread [Re: ChildOfTheMoon] * 1
    #27969289 - 09/26/22 04:20 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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i switched to glass plates from plastic disposables




Any good places to buy them from that aren’t Amazon? Trying to avoid buying from Bezos like the plague.



I get mine from carolina biological


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Re: Sustainable Cultivation Practices- an Unofficial Thread [Re: Egon_Spengler] * 1
    #27975370 - 09/30/22 01:36 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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I’ve spent weeks trying to find a suitable lid that will allow me to reuse the small glass containers of Oui branded Yoplait yogurt as an agar dish.

It’s a kind of pricey brand my lady enjoys as an infrequent treat (I’m convinced a huge percentage of the higher price is directly related to the shipping costs associated with the glass containers themselves). And we recycle them. But I’d much rather re-use them. The problem is the glass containers are basically tiny vases packaged with sealed foil lids that you peel off. There are no threads for screwing down any typical jar lid, it’s just a smooth lip. Plus they’re a weird size, unusually small diameter. I can find nothing easily available to me that can be repurposed as a PC-able lid that would let me turn these things into LC jars, media bottles or agar plates. There are commercially available lids sold by the yoplait website, designed to fit these vessels and be re-used, but they’re not the correct plastic for PC temps.

I know there are No-lid foil teks etc. but one, this seems unlikely to be consistently successful. Two, the generation of more waste goes directly against the spirit of this thread, and my personal interest in limiting the amount of trash I produce.

Anybody out there ever find something reusable as a lid for these things?









Hey friends! These are those weird little yogurt containers I was mentioning. Turns out the rim of the “jar” is exactly the same size as a standard lid from a regular-mouth canning jar, just without the threads, so there’s nothing for a band to screw down onto.

Any thoughts on how a person could make these functional for small batches of liquid media? Ideally they’d be re-usable.


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Re: Sustainable Cultivation Practices- an Unofficial Thread [Re: Egon_Spengler] * 2
    #28357334 - 06/12/23 04:14 PM (7 months, 12 days ago)

This thread is awesome, would love to hear more perspectives on this / what people do. Also very interesting to learn about how coir is not the most sustainable substrate.

What I try to do to reduce waste on a direct level (small-scale):

Use reusable PP5 slime cups for agar
Compost spent subs (though I want to try PC'ing old subs like minds)
Try to order what I can in bulk (reduce packaging waste)

I'm also trying to find better sources for my supplies. I live in a metropolitan area. and so far it's been easiest to order through Home Depot, but I don't want to continue supporting large corporations that are shipping these supplies from all over if I could source a lot of the same shit locally. If anyone has insight into sourcing locally, please let me know.


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Re: Sustainable Cultivation Practices- an Unofficial Thread [Re: eugenemyco] * 1
    #28357981 - 06/13/23 06:08 AM (7 months, 12 days ago)

Hey, thanks for bumping this, I keep meaning to but then can't come up with anything worthwhile to report...

I get my coir from a local gardening supply company with an online presence. It looks identical to the Home Depot coir, so it may be the same master source for all I know. Perhaps you could ask around, and see if any local nurseries, etc. either have it on-hand or could special-order it for you.

So, coir is just the debris from coconut plantations. There's a giant outer husk on coconuts, and those pile up fast in coconut plantations. The material usually gets macerated and pressed into bricks, and then shipped around the world and sold. The alternative, probably still used on less malleable parts of the plant and random leftovers, would be to burn it. Large coconut plantations are typically replacing tropical forests, and being run in an unsustainable manner. But they're not being run as coir farms. So coir is basically a waste product from an unsustainable industry. And, of course, it's also being shipped around the world, which does involve both a carbon footprint and the perpetual risk of a cutoff supply.


In the grand scheme of things, I don't think getting coir from Home Depot is all that bad. It'll be shipped around the world either way, and I seriously doubt that coir sales are any sort of profit center for them. More like the thing they sell to get you to see that $150 ceramic pot in the garden center.

My goal is to find a substrate I can grow myself. I'm still most intrigued by the idea of growing a grain, using the seed for jars and the rest of the plant for substrate...


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Re: Sustainable Cultivation Practices- an Unofficial Thread [Re: B Traven]
    #28358317 - 06/13/23 11:23 AM (7 months, 11 days ago)

A thread that actually deserves to be regularly bumped. Thank you for this.


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Re: Sustainable Cultivation Practices- an Unofficial Thread [Re: johnukguy]
    #28549966 - 11/20/23 08:59 AM (2 months, 6 days ago)

I agree. I try to do things sustainably as well. Only glass petris, only no mod lids and no mod tubs. Cutting two holes for the SAB was the most challenging thing to do for me to start doing cult for some reason. I did see a pic somewhere of someone using a no mod tub as a sab by moving it slightly off the table and reaching up.


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Re: Sustainable Cultivation Practices- an Unofficial Thread [Re: Blueberry Muffin]
    #28635562 - 01/26/24 12:10 PM (1 day, 19 hours ago)

I wonder how big an impact it is to pick up in-store than to ship to my house. It all depends on how resource guzzling are the methods of transport.

Eventually I would like to reuse my compost as sub. I don't know if pasteurization will be enough since compost is more nutritious. We compost poo and that seems to work ok.

smartattack hypothesized about replacing coir with supplemented pumice, I wonder if anyone's made progress on that.

If you have connections to schools nearby, try procure used lab equipment. Some people find great second hand lab glass from universities replacing their old wares.

Anyone have good alternatives to repurposeable containers that are good grow bag replacements?


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Re: Sustainable Cultivation Practices- an Unofficial Thread [Re: Floret]
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Re: Sustainable Cultivation Practices- an Unofficial Thread [Re: JW123] * 1
    #28635762 - 01/26/24 03:41 PM (1 day, 16 hours ago)

Nobody brings up the point that synthetic filter discs and filter patches on bags (most) are made from Teflon.

I guess only the type-B filters are just plastics, not fluropolymers.  But they only filter to 5 microns (not .5 or .2microns)

Those filters may be appropriate for colonizing substrate, not for grain spawn


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