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OfflineCaptainTrips420
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IV 4-ACO-MET fumarate and oral Harmaline HCL
    #27952604 - 09/16/22 10:13 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I measured out 25MG of harmaline HCL and put it in a pill capsule. Then I measured out 15mg of :4acomet: and got some bottled water I don’t think tap water safe. I put enough to set the powder and cover it completely and used the needle tip cover to stir it it took forever I think it’s heat sensitive so it wouldn’t dissolve completely very fast. I also sanitized everything.

Anyway I ate the 25MG of harmaline and waited till about 19 minutes. I actually could feel a change in headspace in about 10-15 minutes but very slightly. It actually kinda burns when 4-ACO-MET it enters your blood directly it’s like a really bad sting like a bee or something but it passes in about 45 seconds and surprisingly it didn’t really effect my entire body just that spot. It’s strange I used such a small needle it didn’t bleed a single drop of blood I could visibly see. It doesn’t even leave a mark that’s noticeable you would have to closely examine it.

Anyway I found this stuff to be slower than 4-ACO-DMT IV like when I inject 4-ACO-DMT it’s hallucinations within 60 seconds with 4-ACO-MET it definitely changes your headspace but it takes like 3-5 for the visuals to effect me. I just laid down I probably could have walked but I didn’t feel like it. It definitely had like visual morphing like everything started swirling around and I was looking at a piece of art I got a replica poster of this anyway I was seeing like geometry in it and strange patterns it’s impossible to describe. But it like literally came to life like something from Harry Potter like the clocks where swirling and moving.

Idk it’s definitely cool but I didn’t see any aliens or spiritual beings just cool morphing forming shapes. Idk if THC-P had something to do with it I was smoking a good amount throughout the day. The intensity of the visuals died down much quicker than orally.

I don’t think I’ll be doing that anymore though at least not often it’s a little painful and honestly 4-ACO-MET is very good orally I just wanted to see what it’s like directly. Honestly it’s one of my favorite chemicals I definitely prefer it over 4-HO-MET. I think im going to stick to oral except on rare occasions like if I feel like I need to trip but have to work the next day. If I take that stuff in the evening I’ll be up till 6AM I can’t sleep on psychedelics at all. But it wears off quickly if you IV. I wish I could just get like 5-MEO-DMT.


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Re: IV 4-ACO-MET fumarate and oral Harmaline HCL [Re: CaptainTrips420]
    #27952728 - 09/16/22 11:37 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Buddy, i don't see any mention of a filter of any sort being used on that syringe. If you are gunna IV anything please get some wheel filters. You really don't want random insoluble cutting agents floating around in your circulatory system.

Trip report seems cool though. I would have gone higher on the harmaline. Probably not a full dose because 4-aco-met is orally active on it's own but over 100mg for sure. Lower dose harmalas don't do much for enzyme inhibition. Found that out testing oral DMT a long time ago.

5-meo-dmt is still available in canada. If you are creative enough you could probably get it into the U.S. without vendor realizing they are shipping to the U.S. You would be fucked if customs got it though. Maybe not the best idea to mess with it i think you seem somewhat wreckless and too large a dose of 5-meo-dmt can kill you pretty easily.


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Re: IV 4-ACO-MET fumarate and oral Harmaline HCL [Re: TheDirtFarmer]
    #27953121 - 09/16/22 04:28 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Idk actually it’s very high purity I don’t think it has any cutting stuff it all dissolved without anything floating in it. I got literal grams of 4-sub chemicals im not going to overdose if I wanted to I’m pretty sure I could. I got a decent scale and am pretty careful I honestly could eyeball it I didn’t even weigh it more than once I got that dose on the first try. I know how to handle RC chemicals. But ya you are right it’s probably not good to be injecting it but I don’t think it’s as bad as heroin on the streets cut with god knows what. My people provide a very pure product I think the only thing it’s cut with is fumaric acid not really cut just not properly removed I think it adds weight but they claim over 99% purity. Idk maybe I should get there stuff chemically analyzed by a lab but it’s to expensive. I wish I could just send it all to a pro chemist and get them to purify it completely.


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OfflineTheDirtFarmer
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Re: IV 4-ACO-MET fumarate and oral Harmaline HCL [Re: CaptainTrips420] * 1
    #27953211 - 09/16/22 05:17 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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CaptainTrips420 said:
Idk actually it’s very high purity I don’t think it has any cutting stuff it all dissolved without anything floating in it. I got literal grams of 4-sub chemicals im not going to overdose if I wanted to I’m pretty sure I could. I got a decent scale and am pretty careful I honestly could eyeball it I didn’t even weigh it more than once I got that dose on the first try. I know how to handle RC chemicals. But ya you are right it’s probably not good to be injecting it but I don’t think it’s as bad as heroin on the streets cut with god knows what. My people provide a very pure product I think the only thing it’s cut with is fumaric acid not really cut just not properly removed I think it adds weight but they claim over 99% purity. Idk maybe I should get there stuff chemically analyzed by a lab but it’s to expensive. I wish I could just send it all to a pro chemist and get them to purify it completely.





Wheel filters get rid of bacteria, mold spores, and pathogens that might end up in your blood stream too. Those contaminants dont just end up in shroom grows they are on every surface you touch and probably get sucked into the bag every time you close it.

I'm not gunna challenge you on the purity of the chems you are getting because i know there are some good labs out there. I had some 3-ho-pcp that was tested by energycontrol at 98%. That percent is different when you factor in the HCL bound to the chem to form the salt but its about as good as it gets.

What i was getting at though is that 5-meo-dmt is not as benign as 4 subbed tryptamines. It comes with the risk of heart attack and respiratory arrest. That is all fine until you combine it with high potency and cheap milligram scales that are barely accurate to +/-5mg. You aren't gunna get a scale any better until you start dropping $3k+ on analytical balances.

Some of the stuff in your post actually proves my point about wrecklessness. I'm not trying to bash you but your scale might read 25mg and the dose might be anywhere from 20mg to 30mg without your knowledge. With 5-meo-dmt being on the high end could kill you. In all reality the safer thing would be to weigh 3-5x and take an average or weigh 50-100mg and make a volumetric solution. With tryptamines i would opt for taking the average because they are unstable in solution for long periods of time.

I'm not trying to be a dick but really if you got the money for grams of 4 subbed tryptamines you have the money for a lab test. You just chose to allocate it other places. I have been there. In all reality with the stuff i have seen over the years doing RCs i think lab testing is a mandatory safety precaution. You have chinese labs that sell and manufacture tryptamines along side fentalogues, 2-MAP, and dipyanone, mixups at labs or vendors, and sometimes even outright botched synths that make their way to the market. I have been using RC related forums for a long time and seen too many people die because they didn't test their shit before consuming to forgo that step.


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