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How much "Host Defense Lion's Mane Capsules" should I take for the "Stamets Stack"?
    #27951637 - 09/15/22 04:01 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Hi there,
I'm interested to start a microdosing protocol with the "Stamets Stack": https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-psilocybin-mushrooms-stamets-stack/

I know how much magic mushroom and Niacin to take, but I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how much Lion's Mane to take.

Here is the recommended dose of Lion's Mane for the "Stamets Stack":

- Erinacines / Hericenones: 50-200 mg --> The actual substance amount
--OR--
- Lion’s Mane mushroom at 1%: 5-20g --> The estimated dosage when ingesting the raw mushroom, assuming 1% concentration

I bought this product from Host Defense for the Lion's Mane part of the stack: https://hostdefense.com/products/lions-mane-capsules

Here is a picture of the label:

My main question is this: How many capsules of Lion's Mane do I take to get within the range listed above?

If it matters, I'm in my 40's, I weight 200 lb, and I'm 6 foot tall and in great overall health.

Thanks!


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Re: How much "Host Defense Lion's Mane Capsules" should I take for the "Stamets Stack"? [Re: Deadmaker]
    #27954562 - 09/17/22 12:56 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the help everyone! I was also reading the Host Defense is not the best brand for Lion's Mane.

I still don't know how to translate the protocol...

- Erinacines / Hericenones: 50-200 mg  --OR--
- Lion’s Mane mushroom at 1%: 5-20g

...into the capsules that I bought (https://hostdefense.com/products/lions-mane-capsules)

I just decided to take 2 capsules, because that is the recommended dose on the label. Again, I have no idea if what is in those capsules is "Erinacines / Hericenones" or "Lion’s Mane mushroom at 1%"???

I even called the company and spoke to a helpful guy, but he really couldn't answer my question. He basically said it's a ground up mix of mycelium, the substrate, and some fruiting body. So, no idea how to translate that into the protocol ingredients. It shouldn't be this difficult.

If someone knows of a really good brand for Lion's Mane, one that I can easily translate from the protocol, I'm all ears!!


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Re: How much "Host Defense Lion's Mane Capsules" should I take for the "Stamets Stack"? [Re: acca]
    #27958544 - 09/20/22 05:43 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

@Deadmaker, thanks for the link to the Lion's Mane that you personally use (Nutricost Organic Lion's Mane Mushroom Powder). I may get that. So, how much of that Lion's Mane powder do you actually take for the "Stamets stack"? I still can't translate what I read online to an actual product.

What confuses the shit out of me is when I look online for the "Stamets Stack" I find 3 main ways for the Lion's Mane part:

- Erinacines / Hericenones: 50-200 mg
- Lion’s Mane mushroom at 1%: 5-20g
- 500mg 1000mg of high-quality Lion’s Mane extract powder

For example, if I get the powder that @Deadmaker recommends (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W8W2PS6) is that "Lion's Mane mushroom @ 1%" (if so, I'd take 5 scoops / 5g). Or, is it "high-quality Lion’s Mane extract", in which case I'd only take 1 scoop / 1 g.

I wish Stamets (or someone) would say exactly how many capsules of Lion's Mane to take for a specific brand.

Thanks again everyone!


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Re: How much "Host Defense Lion's Mane Capsules" should I take for the "Stamets Stack"? [Re: Deadmaker]
    #27965673 - 09/24/22 08:29 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Ok, thanks @Deadmaker and everyone else for all the tips on this!

Quick update: I finished my first week of this Stamets Stack (4 days on, 3 days off) this week. I've done the Fadiman protocol many times (200 mg psilocybin mushrooms only, 1 day on 2 days rest, repeat), so it's interesting to compare. The Stamets stack definitely feels more intense... I feel more effect from it.


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