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High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue?
    #27950942 - 09/15/22 08:28 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I inoculated a GSB from a MSS back in August when I was first starting out with this. The bag grew well, and got to the point of being ready to transfer to my mono about 2 days ago.

I used a modified version of the Northspore Monotub, but I lack a power drill, so I used a 4 inch coffee can to put 2 holes in each side and stuffed with polyfil.

The Substrate is from Midwest, their bulk cow substrate. It seems like it was vacuum sealed. There was plenty of moisture when I did the field capacity test without me even misting the tub at all. But! I put in a digital monitor to keep an eye on the humidity since I live in the desert, I was concerned it might dry out.

The opposite has happened thus far. I'm reading a consistent 95% humidity (and I risked contam to verify with another humidity reader). I have tried to not open the tub at all, since its in the recolonization phase again (and seems to be happily chugging along).

As this is my first grow, should I be worried about the humidity being so high (I read in multiple sources that humidity should be between 80-90%)? If this is an issue, how can I lower humidity without taking out polyfil or taking the lid off while the mycelium is recolonizing?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild] * 1
    #27950991 - 09/15/22 09:17 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

It's not an issue the humidity can be 99%. Just leave it alone and keep waiting.


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: rumfor69] * 2
    #27951009 - 09/15/22 09:26 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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I risked contam to verify with another humidity reader




thats not a thing


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: bakedbeings] * 1
    #27951108 - 09/15/22 10:22 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Bakedbeings said:
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I risked contam to verify with another humidity reader




thats not a thing



I'll try explaining for you since you're new like me and I struggled with those kinds of answers at first^^

If you're using standard substrate such as Coco Coir and Vermiculite, those are specifically chosen for their low nutrient content and therefore don't really contaminate. If you were using something nutritional, that's likely a different story, although that's where my knowledge runs out already.

What gets you contamination is from your spawn. MSS always carry contaminants and therefore it's a highly disregarded practice in this forum. I used it too and people just give you flack for it, but if you can move past that, you can still succeed. An untrained eye won't notice contaminated spawn and even a trained one might miss it, due to the contam being "hidden inside" or something like that.
So basically, MSS to grain = contamination. It can still go very well and I believe it most likely will, if everything is looking good. You also don't have to worry about contamination through opening, because at that point in the process there are millions upon millions of all kinds of bacteria and spores already on an in your substrate, it's just a matter of how healthy your spawn was so it can "win that race sort of deal".
Remember, most of the nutrition comes from your spawn, which is already colonized by mycelium (and bacteria in case of MSS to grain, hence the risk of this practice).

Hope this clarifies things for you a little. If you have any further questions, feel free to message me and I'll keep an eye on that thread =)


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: rumfor69]
    #27951172 - 09/15/22 11:14 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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rumfor69 said:
It's not an issue the humidity can be 99%. Just leave it alone and keep waiting.




Awesome, thank you!

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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: bakedbeings]
    #27951174 - 09/15/22 11:15 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Bakedbeings said:
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I risked contam to verify with another humidity reader




thats not a thing




I've seen in multiple videos and reading online that you aren't supposed to open the lid on a monotub when the mycelium is recolonizing. That's not a thing?

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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: BoySage]
    #27951179 - 09/15/22 11:17 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks BoySage! I know that MSS is not well regarded here, but I also did a lot of my work before I found this forum.

We shall see how recolonizing goes. The bag looked healthy, but I do see your point on contamination. Lets hope I get lucky *crosses fingers*

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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild]
    #27951184 - 09/15/22 11:23 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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echochild said:
Thanks BoySage! I know that MSS is not well regarded here, but I also did a lot of my work before I found this forum.

We shall see how recolonizing goes. The bag looked healthy, but I do see your point on contamination. Lets hope I get lucky *crosses fingers*



Same here and it seems to be going well so far. Good luck!


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: BoySage] * 1
    #27951229 - 09/15/22 11:48 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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I've seen in multiple videos and reading online that you aren't supposed to open the lid on a monotub when the mycelium is recolonizing. That's not a thing?





nope

did you heat sterilize your tub and spawn it in front of a flow hood? of course not. you did everything in open air, so your sub is already exposed. sterility only matters when inoculating and colonizing nutritious mediums, agar and grain and such

common practice nowadays is to introduce FAE on day one. colonizes a bit faster


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: bakedbeings]
    #27951534 - 09/15/22 02:44 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: bakedbeings]
    #27951794 - 09/15/22 05:42 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)






nope

did you heat sterilize your tub and spawn it in front of a flow hood? of course not. you did everything in open air, so your sub is already exposed. sterility only matters when inoculating and colonizing nutritious mediums, agar and grain and such

common practice nowadays is to introduce FAE on day one. colonizes a bit faster




Gotcha, I understand now. Thank you for elaborating!

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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild]
    #27953799 - 09/16/22 10:43 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Quick check in for the noob. I transferred the grain spawn to the mono on 9/13. On 9/15 I started seeing myc all over the place, but it was looking a little spikey. This photo is from today (9/16), and the spikes are everywhere.

Is this, by chance, a sign my FAE is too low?


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild]
    #27953801 - 09/16/22 10:48 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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echochild said:
Quick check in for the noob. I transferred the grain spawn to the mono on 9/13. On 9/15 I started seeing myc all over the place, but it was looking a little spikey. This photo is from today (9/16), and the spikes are everywhere.

Is this, by chance, a sign my FAE is too low?






nah youre alright. my shoeboxes tend to do that and then the Ariel Myc kinda lays down right before primordia start forming. just keep being patient everything is looking alright


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: thetryptkeeper]
    #27953805 - 09/16/22 10:49 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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nah youre alright. my shoeboxes tend to do that and then the Ariel Myc kinda lays down right before primordia start forming. just keep being patient everything is looking alright




Thanks! Love your pic by the way. I was trying to see if I could find that show to watch the other day and couldn't.

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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild]
    #27953807 - 09/16/22 10:51 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

thank you! and you can find em just gotta look around


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: thetryptkeeper]
    #27973553 - 09/29/22 08:18 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Noob check in. Tub 1 smells very earthy. I see grey patches among the white areas. How is this one looking to a more trained eye? This one was from a millet bag transferred to tub on 9/13.



This is tub 2: It was an All-in-One bag that I transferred on 9/19. Are those pins even though it doesn't appear the substrate is fully colonized?





Thanks for the help in advance.

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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild] * 1
    #27973561 - 09/29/22 08:24 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

First tubs fucked. Second tub isn’t fucked yet.

On second look second tub might be fucked too some of those dark areas look suspect.

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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild]
    #27973566 - 09/29/22 08:29 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

definitely throw that first one out immediately.  second one looks pretty shot from the pics. Keep at it. Every grower has experienced this at some point.


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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: TinManUnite]
    #27973575 - 09/29/22 08:34 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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definitely throw that first one out immediately.  second one looks pretty shot from the pics. Keep at it. Every grower has experienced this at some point.




Ok, so any ideas where Tub 1 got fucked? I need to know what I'm looking at, and if there is something I could have done to avoid tub 1's fate.

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Re: High Humidity in Monotub - is this an issue? [Re: echochild] * 1
    #27973581 - 09/29/22 08:37 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

My guess is you went spores to grains. Whether that’s an all in one bag or not that’s where you likely went wrong.

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