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I finally have the materials together and decided to start on my PF TEK, while waiting to see if my agar plates do anything at all.
I have 24 jars. And "for science" I am going to do a comparison with BRF, corn meal, a corn meal mix, and regular flour. Mostly because I have them on hand, and want to put them to use/test.
12 are going to be BRF and 4 each of the others in a following batch.

I start my removing the lids on the jars, and put 4 starter holes in the lid.

I then use a 3/8 drill bit to widen the hole to be appropriate for the syringe.
After that I put all of those tools away where they belong so I will know where to find them next time.
I pulled 2 cups of verm and added 1 cup of water.

I check capacity, and got some drips when I squeezed.

Added 1 cup of BRF (Brown rice flour) I made. Check out how here

And broke out the jar funnel.

I was able to get 4 jars with the first batch, so I made a double batch to fill the remaining 8 jars.
I filled all of the jars to the band line

Then topped it off with vermiculite.

Put the lids and rings on

Put the foil on

Then loaded the Preasure cooker. I elevated the jars up away from the water by putting 4 jars full of water on the bottom with rings as spacer to restrict movement, followed by the plate that came with the cooker.

I vented for 15 minutes.

And put on the weight. This is the first time I used extra weight on the PC weight. I found it reduced the heat to maintain preassure, so it made the process more efficient.

After 90 minutes I turned off the heat and let the cooker cool overnight. Tomorrow I will be innoculating these with MS, and doing the test batches with other flour materials.
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Looks like you're doing everything right. Hopefully before long you'll have more plates and jars than you know what to do with, lol.
I'm already there and I've only been into this for three months, lol. It'll seem like it takes forever at first but be patient and you'll have myc before you know it!
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Re: My First PF TEK [Re: Cob]
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The initial wait is killing me lol.
I ordered another 500 plates for Agar in preparation for when things actually start growing. I am enjoying the hobby, and am hoping to run tons of tests on materials, and have many specimen on file to keep me busy and share with the community.
I ordered a second syringe from another vendor to try to ensure I have success. I just have this strange feeling the first one won't grow. Not sure why I feel that way though.
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SymPlayTon said: The initial wait is killing me lol.
I ordered another 500 plates for Agar in preparation for when things actually start growing. I am enjoying the hobby, and am hoping to run tons of tests on materials, and have many specimen on file to keep me busy and share with the community.
I ordered a second syringe from another vendor to try to ensure I have success. I just have this strange feeling the first one won't grow. Not sure why I feel that way though.
Yeah I thought the same, took 32 days to see myc through the jar on my first Lipa Yai MS cakes. I've since made several more and they are perfect so far.
I'm with you on the experiments, I just enjoy playing with different things like substrates, etc. I've actually had great luck growing ovoid myc, a wood lover, on standard BRF cakes. So far so good, the ovoid myc are tearing it up.
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I am right there with you. 3 weeks and I finally see a bit of myc on a plate. Have a bunch of PF tek going. I just keep starting stuff and trying different techniques, spore print, swab, MSS. also PF tek, grain, agar. Doing lots of fun science. Good luck
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That sounds like a cool experiment your doing. I got lucky with my plates & had early success. Made my T3s & went to grain about an hour ago. Hoping my sterile technique was up to par on inoc. What variety did you go with on your next syringe?
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Re: My First PF TEK [Re: CJD]
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Jaksavage said: I am right there with you. 3 weeks and I finally see a bit of myc on a plate. Have a bunch of PF tek going. I just keep starting stuff and trying different techniques, spore print, swab, MSS. also PF tek, grain, agar. Doing lots of fun science. Good luck
That is the best part of the hobby! I have been testing everything I can get my hands on.
I successfully made a spore print from a white button mushroom from the grocery store. Just for fun.
Still waiting for my first mycelium. I have some agar plates that have what I think is the start of mycelium. If I hold it to the light just right I can see what looks like a spider edge around a spot.
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CJD said: That sounds like a cool experiment your doing. I got lucky with my plates & had early success. Made my T3s & went to grain about an hour ago. Hoping my sterile technique was up to par on inoc. What variety did you go with on your next syringe?
I went with more PE. I am trying to ensure I can get to a fruiting with PE. Once I have that I will start expanding into more varieties and skills. With the new syringe already being a live LC I think it gives me a strong change at success. It also let's me play with some LC TEK, and my new stir plate.
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I just inoculated my PF cakes.
All went mostly well. I did run into a problem that I didn't see discussed in any of the TEKs. That is needle clogging.
I constantly had small pieces of vermiculite that would get caught in the syringe and clog it.
I don't know if I just have small verm, or if it was just a large needle.
It was very annoying, and resulted in me wasting a noticeable amount of MSS to unclog it multiple times.
I would love to hear some thoughts on that, and see if anyone has advice/can relate.
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My verm is chunky. No clogging.
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No matter what verm I use, coarse or fine, my needle will randomly clog. There’s no rhyme or reason to it, it seems.
I read through your writeup. Love that you’re doing PF tek. It’s a great performer! I would suggest you get your jars out of the pressure cooker ASAP next time and take the foil off. As things cool, water condenses on the underside of the foil and can drip into your verm layer, potentially compromising it. We want to keep that verm dry and unmolested. The updated PF tek page here is perfectly serviceable, but the shroomery wiki has a newer writeup that goes into more granular detail if you want to read it. Link in my signature.
I also am of the opinion that if you can squeeze water out of the substrate it’s way too wet. This tek is very forgiving, but over hydrated substrate is one of the bigger causes of stalled/dead jars.
Just some thoughts! I’ve had great success with PF tek even making sizable mistakes, so I’m sure you’ll be fine 👍
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Smellyhobbit said: No matter what verm I use, coarse or fine, my needle will randomly clog. There’s no rhyme or reason to it, it seems.
I read through your writeup. Love that you’re doing PF tek. It’s a great performer! I would suggest you get your jars out of the pressure cooker ASAP next time and take the foil off. As things cool, water condenses on the underside of the foil and can drip into your verm layer, potentially compromising it. We want to keep that verm dry and unmolested. The updated PF tek page here is perfectly serviceable, but the shroomery wiki has a newer writeup that goes into more granular detail if you want to read it. Link in my signature.
I also am of the opinion that if you can squeeze water out of the substrate it’s way too wet. This tek is very forgiving, but over hydrated substrate is one of the bigger causes of stalled/dead jars.
Just some thoughts! I’ve had great success with PF tek even making sizable mistakes, so I’m sure you’ll be fine 👍
Awesome to hear. Once I added the flour I wasn't able to squeeze any more water out, so I am guessing I was where I was supposed to be.
I looked at the wiki as well. I like pictures with my words, so the post was easier for me to follow. I am happy to help contribute to the wiki, add pictures tips and hints etc. Not sure what the rules are to contribute there
I will keep the note about removing the jars sooner in mind. I had a couple drops of water on the lids as I removed the foil in the SAB. I wiped them off with a clean microfiber damp with ISO. Did the same if the syringe dripped (the clogs caused some back preasure it seemed)
I am excited to see how I did with PF, time will tell.
I think I am starting to get mycelium growth on the agar plates I inoculated 4 days ago and I don't see any obvious (to a noob) contamination so I have backups for my backups, which is exciting. But that is Off topic.
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SymPlayTon said: I just inoculated my PF cakes.
All went mostly well. I did run into a problem that I didn't see discussed in any of the TEKs. That is needle clogging.
I constantly had small pieces of vermiculite that would get caught in the syringe and clog it.
I don't know if I just have small verm, or if it was just a large needle.
It was very annoying, and resulted in me wasting a noticeable amount of MSS to unclog it multiple times.
I would love to hear some thoughts on that, and see if anyone has advice/can relate.
It isn’t necessarily the size of the vermiculite, remember you’re also inoculating into BRF which is finer than the vermiculite. Push the needle all the way in the hole and pull back a tiny bit while keeping light pressure on the plunger. It usually clears the plug. Don’t push down harder on the plunger or you’ll end up delivering half the syringe at once. Are you using your thumb on the plunger? What gauge is your needle?
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Re: My First PF TEK [Re: The Tao]
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The Tao said:
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SymPlayTon said: I just inoculated my PF cakes.
All went mostly well. I did run into a problem that I didn't see discussed in any of the TEKs. That is needle clogging.
I constantly had small pieces of vermiculite that would get caught in the syringe and clog it.
I don't know if I just have small verm, or if it was just a large needle.
It was very annoying, and resulted in me wasting a noticeable amount of MSS to unclog it multiple times.
I would love to hear some thoughts on that, and see if anyone has advice/can relate.
It isn’t necessarily the size of the vermiculite, remember you’re also inoculating into BRF which is finer than the vermiculite. Push the needle all the way in the hole and pull back a tiny bit while keeping light pressure on the plunger. It usually clears the plug. Don’t push down harder on the plunger or you’ll end up delivering half the syringe at once. Are you using your thumb on the plunger? What gauge is your needle?
I am keeping my thumb on the plunger, but also trying not to push too hard for the stated reason.
The needle quage is 18 I believe. The one that came from the sponsor.
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18 gauge are what I use. Give it a try next round of inoculating.
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Re: My First PF TEK [Re: The Tao]
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The Tao said: 18 gauge are what I use. Give it a try next round of inoculating.
I will definitly be trying that.
I have some 23G that came with a pack of syringes.
I think I will buy a few different sizes and test different TEKs at some point. I have a feeling there are lots of "it depends" with syringe needle sizes.
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One thing I ran into this run. You can see it if you check out my log thread. So, I got a fairly fine verm. Not a powder or anything but it's small granules down to powder sized. That was pretty damn nice for the cakes, gave a really quick, even, colonization phase.
The issue...as the cake colonized and especially during consolidation it constricted. When the cake did this, my dry verm layer fell down into the sides of the jar. Some areas were so subsided, there was hardly a millimeter left protecting the cake.
Also, the dry verm took on moisture from the substrate and a lot of my dry layers were partially colonized. That part might be totally normal, but I found it alarming because it seemed to me that would easily allow the non-established mycelium to be attacked. That is just a feeling though. All my jars came out without contam beyond some minor bacterial from spore syringe and none involved the verm layer. In fact, the cakes doing the best right now were the ones who began eating lots of dry verm.
TLDR: If you can use coarse verm for your dry layer, it would be better than finer stuff.
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I might have to check more garden centers for coarser verm for the top layer. I have a couple that are only open earlier in the day that I might have luck at. The normal stores have packed up most of their garden center already.
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One week update on my PF Tek grow.

10 of 12 jars are showing signs of life.
2 still look blank, but noo early to give up on them.
There is a mix of growth amount from a small dot of mycelium to an entire side covered. I am documenting the growth rate of the jars to compare fruiting amounts. I am ok with slower and more fruit. But if faster and the same fruit, faster is better.
I will keep this updated as it goes.
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An entire side covered in one week from a spore syringe? Can you post a picture?
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Re: My First PF TEK [Re: The Tao]
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Thats about right for one week. I think mine were a hair ahead of that, but nothing majorly different.
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For against the glass inoculation, I’d say that’s spot on 👍
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Looks right. I thought it was going to be the entire half of the jar.
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Re: My First PF TEK [Re: The Tao]
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That is my best jar.
This PE seems really slow at germination.
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This PE seems really slow at germination.
They all like to go at their own pace. My slowest jar took about 5 weeks to colonize.
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I did 5:2.5:2.5 cups verm:BRF:H2O and got 17 1/2 pt jars.
It seems you did 6:3:3 and got 12.
I am completely perplexed by the difference???
Are you using the same measuring devices ie. all dry vs. all liquid or are you mixing liquid measuring devices with dry ingredients measuring devices?
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Re: My First PF TEK [Re: Bobgas]
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Bobgas said: I did 5:2.5:2.5 cups verm:BRF:H2O and got 17 1/2 pt jars.
It seems you did 6:3:3 and got 12.
I am completely perplexed by the difference???
Are you using the same measuring devices ie. all dry vs. all liquid or are you mixing liquid measuring devices with dry ingredients measuring devices?
Every time you make PF substrate you’re going to get a different amount. I don’t know why, but that’s just what happens lol.
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Everytime I do PFTEK I get nearly the same amount give or take a half inch on the last jar 🤷♂️
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Been consistently using the same fineness of verm?
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When I used basically powder fine verm and then medium Verm it still gave me 9.5 half pints. Idk maybe just chance
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Hmm interesting. Guess you’re doing something right lol. I get different volumes all the time. Other people report similar. I assumed it was me using various verm sizes, but I’m not sure.
Either way, it works great.
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Yeah, I also get the same - within a jar or a portion of a jar. I was just amazed at the OP as it is so far different than what I've gotten (and got just today! )
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Re: My First PF TEK [Re: Bobgas]
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Bobgas said: I did 5:2.5:2.5 cups verm:BRF:H2O and got 17 1/2 pt jars.
It seems you did 6:3:3 and got 12.
I am completely perplexed by the difference???
Are you using the same measuring devices ie. all dry vs. all liquid or are you mixing liquid measuring devices with dry ingredients measuring devices?
I used the same measuring device for dry then wet. I have no clue how we would get different volumes in the end.
Perhaps it is level we load the jars to? I loaded them to just to the glass ring. Gave it a couple taps on the table. Perhaps I compressed mine more?
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Quick mini update. I checked my jars today, and all of them have mycelium. So the 2 "slow" jars did germinate.
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Full picture update. These are the "best" spots on all 12 as of Sep 27th. Which is 13 days from inoculation of the jars.
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Look at em go! Looks healthy and happy.
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That is what I was thinking as well. They all (to my untrained eye) look very clean and like some happy mycelium.
I am going to be busy in a few weeks.
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Look good to me. Is the parakeet your lab assistant?
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The conure is the one doing all the work.
  
I just take the credit.
She is the brains of the whole operation. Puts on her little lab coat.
You should see her sterile technique.
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OK. Almost week 4 for my PF Tek grow.
Lots of progress, and various levels of population in the jars.
12 is almost 100% on the exterior.
Lots of ryzomorphic growth through the jars. I think the myc has a comfortable foothold and is working on ageessive expansion.
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Looking good!
Looks like you made your substrate a tad too wet, hence the slow growth. Usually around 4 weeks, you should be near 100%. But let em grow! They are on their way.
Cute birdie I saw one in the pet store last weekend, would be awesome to get one someday
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Looks like you made your substrate a tad too wet, hence the slow growth. Usually around 4 weeks, you should be near 100%. But let em grow! They are on their way.
Cute birdie I saw one in the pet store last weekend, would be awesome to get one someday 
Lol funny I have my PF too wet and my grains are dry lol.
The bird is fun. They need a lot of time to hang out with you to be happy. Make sure you are ready to be able to hang out with them.
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Yeah, its tough getting that perfect moisture content. I usually have too wet grains but also too dry. Ive gotten the PF mix down thou. I find that order of mixing helps. I go Verm->water->BRF then mix well with a spoon. Seems to help.
Yeah they seem like very social birds. Big time commitment
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Mid week update on the PFTek.
Jar 8 has developed what I believe to be mold.
I will quarantine it and observe what happens when the myc and mold meet.
Others are progressing. The majority are almost 100%. I have a couple that are not there yet.
I think I may be at birthing phase by this time next week.
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So the day finally came. I birthed my first hockey puck.
This is PF12 from above. It hit 100% about a week ago, and was ready. I have 5 more that will probably be birthed early next week, and will continue to birthed as they are ready.
I was going to do them all at once, but didn't want to make this one wait for the slow ones.
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What date did you start this grow? Curious to compare to mine which started on 9/18.
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SymPlayTon
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Re: My First PF TEK [Re: Bajazly]
#27998598 - 10/14/22 12:31 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I inoculated the PF Jars on 9/15
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Bajazly
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I have been running a constant 79/80º What are you keeping yours at?
It's funny, out of the 12 jars I did with MSS only 5 took and 1 of the 5 was way late and only 1 of the 4 hole nod'd worked. Of the other 7, 4 have since gone bacterial and 3 look the same as they did when I filled the jars.
The 12 with LC all look off quick but 2 have dropped out of the race in the last week and a half.
You had way better odds with only one loss it looks like.
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Re: My First PF TEK [Re: Bajazly]
#27998671 - 10/14/22 01:17 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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They are usually in the low/mid 70s. Today the thermometer in the area they are in says 70 on the dot, but it is cooler today than it has been the past month.
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SymPlayTon
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Yeah I think this was a good run.
11/12 surviving so far.
The location of the mold on the one I lost makes me think some spores survived the PC. It was between inoculation points.
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Bajazly
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I just noticed some green in the slow goer of the MSS batch. Hope it holds at 4 out of 12 at this point but I have a bunch of agar going too.
Good luck and fruit on.
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Re: My First PF TEK [Re: Bajazly] 1
#27998730 - 10/14/22 01:54 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: My First PF TEK [Re: cozmyc] 1
#28015779 - 10/25/22 11:37 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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New update : I am up to 2 that I am losing to mold.
The white mycelium is fighting the dark stuff.
I need to go toss those in the compost bin.
I have 7 in the fruiting chamber. The one in the bottom left I put in there earlier, but wasn't doing anything. I refunded it, and I am seeing mycelium movement again.
I don't see anything that stands out as pinset yet, but I see what could be the early stages of it. Hoping to have fruit soon.
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Looking good! It can take up to 2 weeks to start seeing pins, in some cases.
Nice hand placement to avoid contact with the cakes
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Yeah. I put the jar lids down to make sure I don't have to make contact after dunking and rolling. I don't want to damage myc growth and impact time or yield.
That is a good time frame to know. That will help me be more patient.
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30 October update.

They are in the chamber with no noticeable pins. I turned off the fan in the room. Not sure if they are too dry.
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Exciting! I e found it easier to read/keep coir cased cakes moist. I think your A-ok
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They kinda look too wet to be honest.
Hydrated mycelium typically looks like fluffy cotton. Gently touching a part of a cake with dry hands can help to check the moisture too. It should feel soft and damp like moss.
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SymPlayTon
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Being my first grow I don't know what good looks like. It may be too wet lol. The water on the extra lid hasn't evaporated for days. I will adjust the lid to get more FAE and see if that promotes pinning.
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Fad

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I'm sure you'll get your pins sooner or later since you've already reached this point! Good luck with the grow
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