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What the hell should I major in? *DELETED*
#27946159 - 09/11/22 11:56 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Reason for deletion: Fuck you losers.
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OutsideOfMyMind said: ...I'm good at math but I absolutely hate it.
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The chem class is easy for the most part except with all the damn math in regards to converting units.
It is extraordinarily rare for a person to be good at something they hate. The math for converting units is simple arithmetic. If you are struggling with the use of arithmetic just wait until you need to apply derivatives and integrals in your physics and physical chemistry problems.
If you are choosing a major based on the money and job prospects but you hate it you're making a serious mistake. Why don't you start reflecting on what you like (not even what you think you might like).
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Re: What the hell should I major in? [Re: VP123]
#27946836 - 09/12/22 01:00 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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The chem class is easy for the most part except with all the damn math in regards to converting units.
It is extraordinarily rare for a person to be good at something they hate. The math for converting units is simple arithmetic. If you are struggling with the use of arithmetic just wait until you need to apply derivatives and integrals in your physics and physical chemistry problems.
If you are choosing a major based on the money and job prospects but you hate it you're making a serious mistake. Why don't you start reflecting on what you like (not even what you think you might like).
Nothing that you said is helpful whatsoever. What I would like is having a fucking job that would pay me enough to be on my own. Do you even know what it's like to be poor or are you just privileged? I spent two years of my life homeless because jobs fucking suck nowadays.
The only time I've enjoyed a math class was when the professor was really really good which was my trig class. Most math teachers fucking suck and completely convolute the material. I just don't have the patience for that. If all math teachers were the same then I wouldn't mind taking all these math classes.
When I can just use a unit converter on my damn phone, yeah I don't see the fucking point in learning unit conversion math problems. Everyone uses fucking calculators and computers in the industry anyway. I'm just trying to get a God damn degree so I can get a better fucking job. I already went to trade school but my industry is fucking horrible and all my teachers lied to me telling me I'd make better money. Fucking bullshit.
And yes you can be good at something and hate it at the same time. The theoretical aspects of math I completely understand and I'm going to understand them but I hate solving problems. I hate the tediousness and I hate that there's too much room for error like if you accidentally forget a negative sign or if you accidentally write down the wrong digit. Just too much room for human error. I'd rather just learn the theoretical aspects of math without actually solving any of it. This is how my statistics class was. It was mostly theory and barely any of it was actually arithmetic.
I'm good at drawing but I hate it. I'd rather paint than draw. So yeah you can be good at something but still hate it.
Did you even read my entire post? your response is really not helpful at all. The only reason people have jobs is for the fucking money. Maybe I should just fucking kill myself so that I won't have to worry about having to get a stupid job for fucking money.
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Straight up if I can't find a fucking job after college I'm straight up fucking committing suicide. I don't even know why the fuck I'm waiting. I already have the goddamn rope and it would literally take 5 minutes for me to die.
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OutsideOfMyMind said: Straight up if I can't find a fucking job after college I'm straight up fucking committing suicide. I don't even know why the fuck I'm waiting. I already have the goddamn rope and it would literally take 5 minutes for me to die.
what the hell?
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OutsideOfMyMind said: Straight up if I can't find a fucking job after college I'm straight up fucking committing suicide. I don't even know why the fuck I'm waiting. I already have the goddamn rope and it would literally take 5 minutes for me to die.
what the hell?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267953/Job-seeker-Vicky-Harrison-commits-suicide-rejected-200-jobs.html
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you are willing to do school for 4-5 years for a degree.
well, on the other hand, if you found an entry level job today that in 4-5 years you could be promoted to a better role within the company and make as much or more than someone with a degree (and no student debt)
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OutsideOfMyMind said: Straight up if I can't find a fucking job after college I'm straight up fucking committing suicide. I don't even know why the fuck I'm waiting. I already have the goddamn rope and it would literally take 5 minutes for me to die.
what the hell?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267953/Job-seeker-Vicky-Harrison-commits-suicide-rejected-200-jobs.html
yeah but youre talking about killing yourself well before 200 rejections for employment. plus, Vicky had to be a full-blown drug addict if she couldnt find work at a grocery store (as mentioned in that article)
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Re: What the hell should I major in? [Re: split_by_nine] 1
#27946886 - 09/12/22 01:50 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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look dude, life is stressful. having a career as a biologist or neuroscientist isnt going to happen overnight.
all this talk about giving up isnt helping you achieve any goals. your attitude is holding you back in a lot of ways.
people can and have lived on their own without first obtaining a masters degree.
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Yeah I've tried looking for better jobs nobody wants to hire anyone unless they have like 5 years experience already. I don't have 5 years experience with anything except stupid massage and I hate doing massage. You clearly have no idea what the job market is like.
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youre right, i dont know about the job market because im not constantly looking for work. i find a job and i keep it until i find a better one
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Re: What the hell should I major in? [Re: split_by_nine] 1
#27946926 - 09/12/22 02:25 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Become a lawyer.
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Re: What the hell should I major in? [Re: Hartford]
#27946928 - 09/12/22 02:26 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Hartford said: Become a lawyer.
Oh yeah even more school. You might as well tell me to become a medical doctor.
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Oh yeah even more school. You might as well tell me to become a medical doctor.
the usps is hiring.
i was homeless for 2 years. i moved across the country and lived in my car and did whatever i could to get to where i am now. i had no job prospects and no degree. no friends or family to help me.
i been in a position where life was difficult.
sometimes you gota work a job you dont want just to keep the money coming in
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Hartford said: Become a lawyer.
Oh yeah even more school. You might as well tell me to become a medical doctor.
the usps is hiring.
i was homeless for 2 years. i moved across the country and lived in my car and did whatever i could to get to where i am now. i had no job prospects and no degree. no friends or family to help me.
i been in a position where life was difficult.
sometimes you gota work a job you dont want just to keep the money coming in
I have a dui, usps wouldn't hire me. Besides, those people are severely underpaid and I wouldn't be able to afford to move out of my parents anyway.
Can someone answer the damn question please.
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you are full of excuses
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That's because I live in constant fear.
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Nothing that you said is helpful whatsoever. What I would like is having a fucking job that would pay me enough to be on my own. Do you even know what it's like to be poor or are you just privileged? I spent two years of my life homeless because jobs fucking suck nowadays.
You are damn right. Nothing I tell you will help because of your attitude. I am privileged because I took all opportunities that were given to me without putting conditions. I am a product of public education all the way to grad school. And yes, although I haven't been homeless, there were times I didn't know how I was going to eat. I don't want to be there again. I'd rather do tedious jobs. Better than not having food to eat.
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The only time I've enjoyed a math class was when the professor was really really good which was my trig class. Most math teachers fucking suck and completely convolute the material. I just don't have the patience for that. If all math teachers were the same then I wouldn't mind taking all these math classes.
You should be grateful for having such a good teacher. But guess what? Expecting to have only good teachers is an illusion. If you are already placing your condition for success in having only good teachers, it is never going to happen. If this is what prevents you from succeeding, save yourself several semesters and give up school. To succeed in school you need to do it in spite of bad teachers.
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When I can just use a unit converter on my damn phone, yeah I don't see the fucking point in learning unit conversion math problems. Everyone uses fucking calculators and computers in the industry anyway. I'm just trying to get a God damn degree so I can get a better fucking job. I already went to trade school but my industry is fucking horrible and all my teachers lied to me telling me I'd make better money. Fucking bullshit.
Why would anyone want to hire you if the phone and the computer can do those jobs better than you? Have you considered this? It is quite possible to have a PhD and have nobody willing to hire you. Haven't you encountered PhDs driving ubers and taxicabs? I have seen it many times. Having a diploma will not ensure that you will get hired. Ever heard of soft skills? Those make the difference in hiring a good employee.
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And yes you can be good at something and hate it at the same time.
I didn't say it was impossible. Just unlikely.
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The theoretical aspects of math I completely understand and I'm going to understand them but I hate solving problems. I hate the tediousness and I hate that there's too much room for error like if you accidentally forget a negative sign or if you accidentally write down the wrong digit. Just too much room for human error. I'd rather just learn the theoretical aspects of math without actually solving any of it. This is how my statistics class was. It was mostly theory and barely any of it was actually arithmetic.
Nobody is going to hire you for what you know. You will get hired for what you can do. And if you are going into a STEM field you will get paid to solve problems. Not for showing off what you know. A negative sign or the wrong digit can cause a bridge to fall down, a patient to die for not having calculated properly the medication, or a company to loose a lot of money for not making the correct estimations of the market. Those are just some examples.
If and when you obtain a degree you will have to compete for a job with other candidates. Why would a company want to hire someone who hates solving the problems the company has? If the other candidate is willing to work the arithmetic and calculations, why they should prefer you over him/her?
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I'm good at drawing but I hate it. I'd rather paint than draw. So yeah you can be good at something but still hate it.
And are you best at that than anybody else? Or is it possible that you could have competition?
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Did you even read my entire post? your response is really not helpful at all. The only reason people have jobs is for the fucking money. Maybe I should just fucking kill myself so that I won't have to worry about having to get a stupid job for fucking money.
I did read it indeed. You want someone to give you a magical solution. A suggestion for something you can do and get rich but on your terms. You are no willing to put in the work because you hate doing a lot of important things. And yes, my response is not useful to you. Nobody's response will be. I won't stop you from killing yourself. I don't even know you. I am trying to make you understand that your attitude towards life is your biggest problem but it is going in one ear and out the other. I won't spend my energies trying to make you understand.
You said you want to get into research? It is tedious work. More than 60% of my research work involved making sure the glassware was clean enough before the experiments and then I spent another big chunk of time cleaning up my bench and used glassware, write tedious reports, take lab safety training, label bottles, follow university bureaucracy, etc.
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Can someone answer the damn question please.
Nobody can and nobody will. You are asking for way too much. Too many conditions. Too many excuses.
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Re: What the hell should I major in? [Re: VP123]
#27947225 - 09/12/22 05:59 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I hate you. Go burn in hell.
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OutsideOfMyMind said: I hate you. Go burn in hell.
You don't do much self reflection when you trip do you man? I think they are points are valid but i also see where you are coming from on some level.
Think about this man. If you don't know what you want to major in, you are potentially making a very expensive mistake. College is not all that difficult to pass. Follow the instructions and you can end up with a degree, even if you absolutely suck at what you chose, and in the long run it's impossible to find work because you are the bottom of the barrel. Even if you do find a major you are good at, you are likely going to start at the bottom when you graduate.
Want my advice? Take your general education requirements. While you are doing that work in a few different industries. Learn what type of work you can tolerate. Build the connections and experience you need. And then get some certifications to boost yourself. Like what you do at that point? Make a career out of it and get your degree.
I only say that because i know way too many people who thought college would help them and it failed them. If you go in with no idea what you want to do you are kind of working backwards with a huge price tag. Flip things around and you are working to build credentials in a feild you know well with all the work connections and experience to excel when you graduate.
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I have already finished most of my general ed requirements for transfer. But since I changed my major after doing them, I now have requirements for the NEW MAJOR like general chemistry 1 and 2, calculus, bio, etc etc etc
. I know what I want to do ultimately but I don't know what the fuck I want to do directly after the bs. I don't know enough about chemistry to know what I want to do. Getting a tech job at a lab requires the entire organic chemistry phase of classes to be completed. I wouldn't be able to get a job at a lab right now. I've already looked at different lower level jobs, there aren't any for anyone who has taken less than organic chemistry.
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Unit conversions are not bad with practice. It's all repetition. Concerning accuracy, I learned to do all calculations at least twice. It's just part of it. Same with significant figures, notation, all that. Patience is necessary, or otherwise willingness to check work. It can become natural, like anything, playing an instrument.
I would consider working for yourself as well. To me it is so freeing, though I haven't made it into a full time income. I've done retail arbitrage am planning to do so again. Also don't leave out your spiritual assets as there is testimony to their benefit with survival issues, like landing an enjoyable job you can live with if need be. Be at peace. Easy to say I know.
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OutsideOfMyMind said: I have already finished most of my general ed requirements for transfer. But since I changed my major after doing them, I now have requirements for the NEW MAJOR like general chemistry 1 and 2, calculus, bio, etc etc etc
. I know what I want to do ultimately but I don't know what the fuck I want to do directly after the bs. I don't know enough about chemistry to know what I want to do. Getting a tech job at a lab requires the entire organic chemistry phase of classes to be completed. I wouldn't be able to get a job at a lab right now. I've already looked at different lower level jobs, there aren't any for anyone who has taken less than organic chemistry.
So your going into chemistry then but you don't know what direction you want to take in the field? I can respect that. I'm in chem 101 this semester. Just a gen ed requirement but i'm considering going back after i get my AAS and go up through organic chem 2 just for personal knowledge and hobby related stuff.
What have you been looking at for lab jobs? I mean i don't really know jack about the chemistry industry but analytical chem seems cool.
Have you considered working at a lab supply while you are in school? It might not pay the best but it very well could put you in a position to connect with people who work in the field and are willing to mentor you or give you pointers along the way. Might even help you get your foot in the door at a company if a customer sees you are knowledgeable and is looking to fill a lower level position.
I'm in the trades but i noticed that some companies are posting tool crib jobs. They do it with the specific intent that it opens doors for people new to the trade. Learn the tools, learn to use the machines to prepare materials for the shop to fabricate what they need, get some practice on less critical work, and prove yourself to the people that are skilled and when you attain the desired skill and knowledge you are set to excel and move into a higher position.
It sucks but sometimes the very bottom is where you have to start. The tool crib in my field is the same as a chemistry supply shop in yours. Just some food for thought. Believe me i know where you are coming from. I'm an doing an apprenticeship at work and going to college at the same time. I make $20/hr and it's not much. I work sometimes 70 hours a week and go to classes for both apprenticeship and a separate trade.
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hey, it's totally understandable to feel overwhelmed when choosing a degree/career path.
i'm an older dude. prior to school, i was in construction as a CAD drafter. i had no clue what i wanted to do when i started college in my 30s. i am bad at math and lock up with tests. but i love to write, and i love history, politics, religion, ethics, and really just any big idea about the world. I also love to work with technology and teach people.
i earned a BA in philosophy and went on to earn an MS in learning science. i work in corporate learning & development. great field. really good pay. it was totally worth it.
my liberal arts training was a huge reason why i made it through grad school. i saw a lot of people struggling who were not used to working with really technical reading and writing. it also gave me a much deeper understanding of the world, and helped me form my own views - don't ever let anyone tell you that's worthless.
it's a journey. don't give up. follow your interests and the rest will follow from there!
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