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Why do Christians like Trump?
#27924850 - 08/29/22 09:28 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Trump fits the category of anti Christians yet Christians seem to unanimously favor and like him.
It's fukken based af that he can do that though it doesn't make sense.
What exactly does he do that make then like him.
The Christians like like him hate with a passion anything lgtbq related yet I can post a picture right now of Trump supporting and holding a Lgbtq flag and him showing support for them.
Nothing about it makes any sense to me so enlighten me on why he wins them over.
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Re: Why do Christians like Trump? [Re: budmanman] 1
#27924864 - 08/29/22 09:36 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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They probably aren't really christian.
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Re: Why do Christians like Trump? [Re: budmanman]
#27924870 - 08/29/22 09:39 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Cause as bad as they think they are in the eyes of their God, they know he's worse and makes them look good.
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Re: Why do Christians like Trump? [Re: GenericHero] 2
#27924917 - 08/29/22 10:10 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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One of the scariest things about 'radial faith' in one person over principles or ideologies is that this happened in Germany for about 10 years, leading up to WW2. Look up the history of how Hitler came to power, and you'll see it wasn't over night by any means at all. It was a slow process of gaining a huge base that would eat up everything Hitler said.
I know people hate bringing up that comparison but it's a funny thought experiment, you have to think about how the holocaust even happened, how did those soldiers carry out such orders?
The base Trump now commands is why the Republican party is in its own civil war, politically speaking. There are politicians that don't want to go down the road Trump's taking, but the republican voters, most of them, do.
Aside from that aspect the idea of Americans actually following the teachings of the bible is a lie. Every Christian person I've ever met will pass judgement on a person in 2 seconds for whatever their bias is, and that's the way God wants it. Even though it says not to cast judgement lol
It's a matter of training the brain to process information. If you think deductively, you restrain your bias until evidence starts to paint a convincing picture. Then you try and fault it, it's a code of skepticism.
Most people on earth think too inductively. That is processing information and adding in your bias and shaping the information to your liking. All people of faith or believe in God have an entire portion of their brains dedicated to that inductive logic way of thinking. I believe it retards our species advancement, and it's unfortunate but its natural. This isn't new that people think this way. Its new that people think deductively.
In the future everyone will theorize only based on first principal logic, and they will cast away their bias and review the information to help them make the best decision or choice. With Trump it's like moving away from that and 'backwards'
The abortion thing is a good example of things moving from freedom to less freedom, via state laws potentially outlawing the right for a woman to have an abortion. They tout that the Gub'ment should stay out of everything and stop taking freedom away. Roev. wade being overturned just now gave 50 states the potiental to take away freedom from individuals. AGain, they say gubment bad, but when gubment take away blanket laws that PROTECT FREEDOMS, they cheer. Gubment arrest you for starting a family when its best for you in your life and your circumstances and choices, IS A GOOD THING TO THEM???
You see they have it all backwards. They have been drinking the coolaid so long its water and people that want a single payer healthcare system are the crazy ones. I could go on and on.
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Re: Why do Christians like Trump? [Re: Gorguss]
#27924934 - 08/29/22 10:21 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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We need to stamp out all these religious people. They're like a plague
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Re: Why do Christians like Trump? [Re: Gorguss] 2
#27924981 - 08/29/22 10:51 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Why do some druggies proclaim themselves rightwing conservatives when rightwing ideology is where the War on Drugs originated from? Why do poor or old people vote for a party that says it wants to get rid of programs like welfare and social security?
People aren’t wholly rational when it comes to belief. Belief can be completely devoid of rationality. Billions of dollars are spent every year to get you to do one thing or another: vote a certain way, buy a product, view an issue from a particular perspective. It’s the fucking matrix, dude.
Trump paid a lot of lip service to evangelicals. He backed it up too. His administration gave away a lot of money to churches through the Covid bailouts. The Catholic Church alone got like $3.5 billion. Tens of billions were paid out altogether. He also severely impaired women’s abilities to get abortions, which had been a long term goal of the religious right.
Economically, all of Corporate America’s goals are embodied in rightwing policy: no taxation, the ability of capital to be totally mobile (outsourcing, globalization), zero environmental standards and regulation. That’s laissez-faire capitalism.
Trump and most of the more educated segment of the Republican Party Mgmt don’t really give two shits about Jesus or abortion. But by appealing to religious fundamentalism, they are able to capture a share of the voting public that the left doesn’t. Then there’s a smaller segment of the Republican Party Mgmt, as well as the multimillion/billionaire capitalists funding it all, who actually are true believers in all sorts of fundamental biblical bullshit.
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Re: Why do Christians like Trump? [Re: Black Mutha]
#27925007 - 08/29/22 11:19 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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The roe vs wade thing happened under the biden administration
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Re: Why do Christians like Trump? [Re: budmanman]
#27925009 - 08/29/22 11:20 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Also Biden is catholic.
Trump is agnostic or atheist and pretends to be religious and isn't very good at it.
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Re: Why do Christians like Trump? [Re: budmanman]
#27925509 - 08/30/22 09:24 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Why do Christians like Trump? [Re: budmanman] 3
#27925622 - 08/30/22 10:40 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Because people are stupid and develop ideologically inconsistent ideas.
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Re: Why do Christians like Trump? [Re: The Ecstatic] 3
#27925764 - 08/30/22 12:36 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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budmanman said: The roe vs wade thing happened under the biden administration
The roe vs wade thing was the direct result of the three conservative justices Trump appointed. This fact isn’t lost on the religious right because they, along with the irreligious capitalist masters of industry, provided input as to who the appropriate candidates for appointment would be.
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budmanman said: Also Biden is catholic.
Trump is agnostic or atheist and pretends to be religious and isn't very good at it.
Catholics were more generally supportive of politicians advocating liberal policy for most of last century; the early 20th century was a period where a lot of Italian immigrants and Irish immigrants were entering this country. As prejudice waned—religious prejudice in particular—and more Catholics established themselves as middle class, they became evenly divided in their political affiliations. According to Pew Research, Catholics still tend to vote slightly higher in favor for dems, which makes sense taking into account the number of less financially well-off Hispanic voters who are more likely to have some stake in questions of immigration policy.
Evangelical Christians are not Catholics. Evangelicalism is an interdenominational movement within the Protestant church, and Catholics and Protestants have been warring with each other for hundreds of years.
There is a quantifiable trend within societies that the better educated a populace becomes, the less importance attributed to religion. When Republicans vow to bring prayer back to public education or dump more federal dollars into religious schools or churches, or demand that the 10 commandments be put on display, or simply tweet about Jesus—religious people (evangelicals, Catholics, whatever) pay attention. Voting republican is how religious people hope to turn back the tide.
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Re: Why do Christians like Trump? [Re: Mike Rogers]
#27926425 - 08/30/22 07:50 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Mike Rogers said: When Republicans vow to bring prayer back to public education or dump more federal dollars into religious schools or churches, or demand that the 10 commandments be put on display, or simply tweet about Jesus—religious people (evangelicals, Catholics, whatever) pay attention. Voting republican is how religious people hope to turn back the tide.
 
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So they're just really dumb?
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Re: Why do Christians like Trump? [Re: budmanman]
#27926433 - 08/30/22 07:55 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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4D chess mate.
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True 4d
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Re: Why do Christians like Trump? [Re: budmanman]
#27926443 - 08/30/22 07:58 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Does being religious automatically make someone dumb. I was just discussing with a Christian who believes catholics worship the devil, I was discussing how dumb believing the stuff in the Bible is and he eventually diverted to people are becoming atheist because of fluoridated water.
Like it is impossible to have a rational conversation about religion with any religious person so are they just all dumb?
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Re: Why do Christians like Trump? [Re: budmanman]
#27926466 - 08/30/22 08:10 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I mean I know some relatively intelligent really religious people, some doctors & lawyers & but they still shit the bed 9/10 times every time we try and have a rational discussion about religion, specifically their religion. We can talk about another religion semi rationally but if it’s about theirs they just revert back to being 12.
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I use to stand on a stage and give sermons growing up. The more involved in religion I got the harder it was to believe. Towards the end I'd give up there and give a sermon and the whole time I knew everything I was saying was bullshit and some 200 people are watching me and it felt fucking weird.
I dont understand how religion even still exists.
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Re: Why do Christians like Trump? [Re: budmanman]
#27926488 - 08/30/22 08:17 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Bc there are a bunch of naive people & psychos who both do what you used to do but do it with a shit eating grin for 40 years straight for the money & power that goes along with it.
Also bc we’re sort of wired for it and people who organize spiritual experiences into religions have had a long time to figure out how to play on those wires to their own end.
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I never felt anything spiritual going on the entire time.
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