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Contemplating Living Semi-Remote
    #27780985 - 05/17/22 12:05 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I've been thinking about selling my current home and buying up some land. If I was to sell my home now which is in a large city. I'd be left with a decent amount to work with roughly ~200k. I've found 10 acre lots in a location in my state that's not really popular so only about 30k for the lot. These lots come undeveloped though and that's where the investment would be I guess. Essentially all I need to work is internet and a nearby post office. I did some research and this spot was 40 min from a small town post office (which works for me). Internet connectivity would be a major for me as I trade stocks daily and put in hundreds of orders in a month.

Someone mentioned that Star Link was now operational and I've been looking into that. I really just want to escape out of the rat race and try to live semi off grid. I already grow tons of things in the house I live in now and I can only imagine how much stuff I could actually grow with a real sizeable land. They have toy haulers that cost around 40-50k as well that are basically luxury homes on wheels. The idea of simply getting away sounds amazing. I'm curious if anyone here has ever made a leap like this yet?

One of my reasoning's behind wanting to sell now is the brink of a recession currently as of 05/16/22. Gas is stupid high. Consumer prices for everything are through the roof. Draconian laws and HOAs where I am. If I put up shades for my plants I get fined by these HOA people. It's ridiculous. I want peace and quiet but I don't want complete isolation.

Remote + Internet + nearby post office (I'd also be allocating at least 50% back into investments while the recession tears through the equities market) essentially buying the dip.


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Re: Contemplating Living Semi-Remote [Re: Gorlax] * 1
    #27890520 - 08/04/22 11:08 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

This sounds awesome to me and like a great plan.


I'd recomend the forum:

Permies.com for some DIY info, plus of course there's the rest of the internet. 

There's a lot of easy-ish food to grow out there just as a way to get your hands dirty in gardening and there should be stuff you can grow that will come back year after year.

Strawberries, raspberries maybe.


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Re: Contemplating Living Semi-Remote [Re: Nymphaea]
    #27890646 - 08/05/22 04:12 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Even if you're not gonna build a foundation, and live in a camper or something, you gotta think about water. Gonna drill a well or dig one?


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Re: Contemplating Living Semi-Remote [Re: Forrester]
    #27891774 - 08/05/22 08:11 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Yeh I've had a lot of time to think this out. This was when I started to I guess "think about it". I've found some really quality parcels of land with everything needed. Calling them parcels doesn't do much of these justice these are full blown ranches. So far I have only come across 1 with a well and it sold FAST. This area would cost a lot of money to get a well drilled but the majority of people use cisterns, rain catch, and haul water in massive tanks.

so far I've concluded I will be buying 40-50 acres in size. I will be getting some greenhouses going and starting a self sufficient family farm. Experienced cultivator with some good seeds and heirlooms that can produce some heavy yields in veggies.

I would prefer a well lot but not a guarantee. I'm almost certain I will be temporary living on the lot or ranch in a trailer or 5th wheel for a little while.

Nymphaea - I am going to get a family farm going. I'm around USDA Hardiness Zones 7b.


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Re: Contemplating Living Semi-Remote [Re: Gorlax]
    #27891824 - 08/05/22 08:49 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Gorlax said:
Yeh I've had a lot of time to think this out. This was when I started to I guess "think about it". I've found some really quality parcels of land with everything needed. Calling them parcels doesn't do much of these justice these are full blown ranches. So far I have only come across 1 with a well and it sold FAST. This area would cost a lot of money to get a well drilled but the majority of people use cisterns, rain catch, and haul water in massive tanks.

so far I've concluded I will be buying 40-50 acres in size. I will be getting some greenhouses going and starting a self sufficient family farm. Experienced cultivator with some good seeds and heirlooms that can produce some heavy yields in veggies.

I would prefer a well lot but not a guarantee. I'm almost certain I will be temporary living on the lot or ranch in a trailer or 5th wheel for a little while.

Nymphaea - I am going to get a family farm going. I'm around USDA Hardiness Zones 7b.




That's freaking awesome.  It always brightens up my day when I hear someone is starting a new self-sufficient farm, something good or at least decent for the land while growing food for the humans.  Makes me feel a little more at peace and makes me happy to think about the beautiful experiences that others will be having out on these properties...

Once you have the basics going I'm sure there will be people interested in work-exchanging...as long as you can tell what they are all about/what their intentions are. 

The Amish were on to something...and the settling of North America is a story still unfolding...


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Re: Contemplating Living Semi-Remote [Re: Gorlax]
    #27891833 - 08/05/22 08:56 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Gorlax said:
Yeh I've had a lot of time to think this out. This was when I started to I guess "think about it". I've found some really quality parcels of land with everything needed. Calling them parcels doesn't do much of these justice these are full blown ranches. So far I have only come across 1 with a well and it sold FAST. This area would cost a lot of money to get a well drilled but the majority of people use cisterns, rain catch, and haul water in massive tanks.

so far I've concluded I will be buying 40-50 acres in size. I will be getting some greenhouses going and starting a self sufficient family farm. Experienced cultivator with some good seeds and heirlooms that can produce some heavy yields in veggies.

I would prefer a well lot but not a guarantee. I'm almost certain I will be temporary living on the lot or ranch in a trailer or 5th wheel for a little while.

Nymphaea - I am going to get a family farm going. I'm around USDA Hardiness Zones 7b.





Just saying - fuck a cistern. You don't realize how much you need water until you have to truck it in yourself. Believe me I've been there. At the very least, get a dug well, if you're in a non-desert area where you can hit water at 12ft or so.  An excavator and a truckload of 4ft well tiles you could probably get done for 5k or so, depending. At least look into it.  We use minimal water here seasonally because our well runs dry and I have to truck it in myself at those times, and BARE minimum we use 50g/day.  It's a lot of work.


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Re: Contemplating Living Semi-Remote [Re: Forrester]
    #27892981 - 08/06/22 08:34 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Yeah I'm looking mainly at rain harvesting. Almost all the homes/ranches over here are setup for it. The wells are deep as hell here. Someone told me possible more than 300ft. 20k would be a cheap estimate for drilling a well here. For perspective these 50 acre parcels are going for 35k with a well the lot cost 100k


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Re: Contemplating Living Semi-Remote [Re: Nymphaea]
    #27892985 - 08/06/22 08:35 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Yeh I didn't really even think about it like that but I'm kinda going to go live semi-amish lol


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Re: Contemplating Living Semi-Remote [Re: Gorlax]
    #27893200 - 08/07/22 03:11 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Well good luck! Hopefully you can get a setup you like.  How do the cistern systems work, I've never seen one?  I mean do you have to add a bunch of chemicals in the storage tank or what?


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Re: Contemplating Living Semi-Remote [Re: Forrester]
    #27893285 - 08/07/22 07:17 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I don't think so or at least it has never been mentioned to me while asking questions. Doesn't sound far fetched to add some chlorination like a regular tap refrigerator might do. Here is an example of some tanks setup on a lot I've seen. What I've seen the trucks pull up and fill them and leave. This is def not something I'd want to rely solely on here but this is an option out here. I do know that all the water hauled is just pulled directly from people with wells so its AAA+ quality water. If you get a well property we have NO LIMITS on water usage so it's a money maker for sure to have on. I'm looking for a well more than I am not.



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Re: Contemplating Living Semi-Remote [Re: Gorlax] * 1
    #27893657 - 08/07/22 01:32 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Yeah I'd place high importance on a well.  We can live easily with no power here for days but no water and things start becoming very difficult!


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Re: Contemplating Living Semi-Remote [Re: Forrester] * 1
    #27920658 - 08/27/22 05:09 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I live semi remote, so here is my take.

Running water is the biggest issue. I do rain harvesting because it's cheap and simple to install, however you would need to do some PH adjustments, and more importantly inspect filters regularly. Rain carries all kinds of shit and you don't want them in your water pump. It happened to me, completely destroyed my hydro pack and the whole piping system. I don't drink rainwater though, I have a few springs nearby from which I bring drinking water, it's high quality mineral water. But I can't use that water it's too far away and it's also forbidden to interfere with water natural pathways.

Electricity is the second issue, trees keep falling on the power lines, especially if you're close to a forest. I live in a forest basically, so I'm affected. Alternative power source like an engine is very desirable. If you live in the middle of nowhere a lot of time might pass before they fix the lines so for example your refrigerator will melt killing all the food. LPG is still relatively cheap where I live so making an engine consume it rather than gasoline might save you a lot of money. Solar panels are alright if you get a lot of sun and don't consume a lot of electricity.

I occasionally have a problem with animals stealing my food, or wild dogs soft attacking me, but insects are an issue above everything, especially during the summer, so just get those insect nets on the windows and everywhere. I have a lot of Phlebotomus sp. flies preying on me, those are savage, much more then mosquitoes, they fly in stealth and are thirsty af, they also cary diseases and I had a fever once from their sting. What I'm also saying here is get to know your local species of insects/animals so you are prepared for anything. Also learn plants and mushrooms of your area, you can use them for food or medicinal properties.

You might also want to check coverage of mobile operators in your area so you have stable mobile data transmission i.e  fast internet on your smartphone, and also it's important if you're living alone and you need to call somebody in case of emergency.


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Re: Contemplating Living Semi-Remote [Re: Gorlax]
    #27920706 - 08/27/22 06:10 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I got an awesome Westinghouse 7500w continuous generator that will run on gasoline or propane for like $900 brand new.  It was a great investment.  The nice thing about propane is you can store as much of it as you want long term and it doesn't break down and go bad like gasoline.


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