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OfflineStable Genius
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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28423807 - 08/07/23 05:57 AM (5 months, 18 days ago)



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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28423861 - 08/07/23 07:08 AM (5 months, 18 days ago)

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Americans should be the last to throw stones at this point.




  So as an American , I can't complain about another country's policies or actions because of some shit that happened before I could vote or before I was born ?  Should my kids who won't be able to vote for another 10 years also keep their mouths shut about Russian invasions ?


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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #28423957 - 08/07/23 08:47 AM (5 months, 18 days ago)

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Americans should be the last to throw stones at this point.




  So as an American , I can't complain about another countries policies or actions because of some shit that happened before I could vote or before I was born ?  Should my kids who won't be able to vote for another 10 years also keep their mouths shut about Russian invasions ?





So Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and the 2014 Obama/CIA coup in Ukraine all happened *before* you were born? Wow, that explains a lot.


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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: chopstick]
    #28424122 - 08/07/23 10:52 AM (5 months, 18 days ago)

Or could vote , Most of that happened before I started voting . What about a younger person that has never had the chance to vote ? Are they not allow to have an opinion about anything ?
  I also don't agree with your assessment of 2014 , to call it a coup is fucking stupid , so there is that also .


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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: Psilynut2]
    #28424140 - 08/07/23 10:59 AM (5 months, 18 days ago)

i first voted against bush and the prowar crowd.

not all of us are boomers
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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: mushboy]
    #28424151 - 08/07/23 11:05 AM (5 months, 18 days ago)

Yeah I voted Bush out. Anti war Biden was his vice president. Biden later ended the war in Afghanistan as we recall. It’s a shame Trump was so pro war.


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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: christopera]
    #28424160 - 08/07/23 11:09 AM (5 months, 18 days ago)

wasnt old enough to vote in bush gore but i remember all my friends being in our stoner basement watching the daily show and having the biggest buzz kill ever. like.. the parents are home and we got chicks and weed style buzz kill.


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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: mushboy]
    #28424164 - 08/07/23 11:13 AM (5 months, 18 days ago)

The era of daily show and then Colbert Report was fucking amazing.


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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: christopera]
    #28424184 - 08/07/23 11:18 AM (5 months, 18 days ago)

Agreed, best political satire in decades. Nothing close nowadays, as the material writes itself in the MSM.


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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: Psilynut2]
    #28424431 - 08/07/23 03:10 PM (5 months, 18 days ago)

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  I also don't agree with your assessment of 2014 , to call it a coup is fucking stupid , so there is that also .



Ya chop, Western propaganda has taught us not to call it a coup.  Call it an unconstitutional seizure of power, or... what description do you prefer Psyilynut2?


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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #28424521 - 08/07/23 04:19 PM (5 months, 18 days ago)

Nobody seized power. The president of Ukraine abandoned the country and the parliament had to pick a new one. I’ve never heard of a coup where someone didn’t take control.


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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28424553 - 08/07/23 04:45 PM (5 months, 18 days ago)

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Ya chop, Western propaganda has taught us not to call it a coup.  Call it an unconstitutional seizure of power, or... what description do you prefer Psyilynut2?




    Were any elected officials running the govt killed , harmed , imprisoned or held against their will ? Did they do away with the constitution , stop having elections and fundamentally change all of the rules and laws ? If not , why the fuck  would I call it a coup ?


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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #28424571 - 08/07/23 04:54 PM (5 months, 18 days ago)

Yes, they ignored the constitution, which required a 3/4 vote for impeachment, or 338 out of 450, of which they could only get 328.  But fortunately, the US state department stepped in and said that was good enough to recognize the unconstitutional government.

Any more questions?

I like to educate people, while koods tries to keep you stupid.


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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28424597 - 08/07/23 05:15 PM (5 months, 18 days ago)

The writing was on the wall and luckily Americans still know how to read.
I would not call that uneducated.  You trying to paint over it after the fact will not change what it said.  Move on.  Ukraine president did, to russia.
There was an election in 2019 and Ukraine elected a current leader.


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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28424598 - 08/07/23 05:16 PM (5 months, 18 days ago)

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But fortunately, the US state department stepped in and said that was good enough to recognize the unconstitutional government.

Any more questions?





 
    We stepped in and told them to ignore their constitution ?
  Source or motherfucking make believe ?


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In the afternoon, the Rada voted 328–0 (about 73% of its 447 members) to remove Yanukovych from his post and to schedule an early presidential election for 25 May.[204][205][206] The resolution stated that Yanukovych had withdrawn from fulfilling his constitutional duties, "which threatens the governance of the state, the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine", and cited "circumstances of extreme urgency".[204] The resolution to remove Yanukovych was supported by all opposition parties: 86 deputies of Batkivshchyna (Fatherland Party), 41 deputies of the Ukrainian Democratic Alliance for Reform (UDAR), 36 deputies of Svoboda (Freedom Party), 30 deputies of the Communist Party, as well as 99 independents. Furthermore, 36 deputies of Yanukovych's Party of Regions voted for his removal. There were no votes against. Of the remaining deputies, 115 were absent and 6 did not vote.[207] Under the 2004 constitution, parliament chairman Turchynov became acting President.[20




  Sounds pretty constitutional ... to me .
They also issued a warrant for Yanukovych for mass killing of civilians . Maybe that's why he left .  He must of known that was going to happen .


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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #28424655 - 08/07/23 05:54 PM (5 months, 18 days ago)

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    We stepped in and told them to ignore their constitution ?
  Source or motherfucking make believe ?



Did we challenge the new government as being unconstitutional, or did we support it?

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In the afternoon, the Rada voted 328–0 (about 73% of its 447 members) to remove Yanukovych from his post and to schedule an early presidential election for 25 May.[204][205][206] The resolution stated that Yanukovych had withdrawn from fulfilling his constitutional duties, "which threatens the governance of the state, the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine", and cited "circumstances of extreme urgency".[204] The resolution to remove Yanukovych was supported by all opposition parties: 86 deputies of Batkivshchyna (Fatherland Party), 41 deputies of the Ukrainian Democratic Alliance for Reform (UDAR), 36 deputies of Svoboda (Freedom Party), 30 deputies of the Communist Party, as well as 99 independents. Furthermore, 36 deputies of Yanukovych's Party of Regions voted for his removal. There were no votes against. Of the remaining deputies, 115 were absent and 6 did not vote.[207] Under the 2004 constitution, parliament chairman Turchynov became acting President.[20




  Sounds pretty constitutional ... to me .



No.  328 is not 338, as required by Ukraine's constitution.

Yanukovych made a televised statement BEFORE the vote saying he would not resign, and he continued to say he was President for about a month after the coup, negating Koods statement that he "abandoned the country".


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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28424681 - 08/07/23 06:04 PM (5 months, 18 days ago)

He literally fled the country and stopped performing his duties as President, lmao.
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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #28424699 - 08/07/23 06:17 PM (5 months, 18 days ago)

Politicians leave their countries all the time.  He said he was on a business trip.  lmao


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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #28424710 - 08/07/23 06:22 PM (5 months, 18 days ago)

Watch again 58:30 - 1:02:40.



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Re: Political Memes and Pics and Shit [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #28424712 - 08/07/23 06:24 PM (5 months, 18 days ago)

He should have come home from his trip.  That's like when a deadbeat dad goes around the corner for a pack of smokes and never comes back. 

Also, earlier in the thread you said he fled for his life and now you're saying it was a business trip. 

Which was it?


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