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HELP!!! Beginner mycologist
#27913321 - 08/22/22 08:23 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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So my pet has some spores...and a spawn bag. He needs to know what else he would need to aquire and what to do with those acquired things(in layman's terms) to make a successful grow happen. He also has around a 200$ budget. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Auzman] 5
#27913325 - 08/22/22 08:28 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Check this thread out by Rotnpins. It explains why spores to grain isn't the best idea. Spores to grain
Here is what we recommend if you have a spore syringe Updated pf tek When I had colonized jars I broke 4 up per Shoebox like this.
Good luck and welcome to the Shroomery!
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Auzman] 3
#27913329 - 08/22/22 08:30 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Agar agar powder Light malt extract Sterile Petri dishes (90mm triple vented) A large clear tote to build a still air box No. 7 scalpel handle No. 11 scalpel blades Parafilm / Saran / cling wrap Kitchen jet torch Wire rack for working on in SAB ISO alcohol 70% Inoculation loop for spreading spores 500ml media bottle or old whiskey bottle covered in foil (to hold your liquid agar before you sterilise and pour it)
Pretty much all you need to get a clean inoculant that you can then transfer to your spawn bag, I might have forgotten something 
The agar powder and light malt extract is for creating a nutritional media (10g agar, 10g malt, 500ml H2O), you can steam sterilise it in a media bottle or old whiskey bottle covered in foil, pour it into your sterile Petri dishes inside your SAB, wrap them with parafilm or other wrap, when the medium solidifies, you can streak your spores (flame sterilise the loop with the jet torch), wait for it to grow, take transfers with the scalpel (again flame sterilise) and wait for them to grow. Sanitise everything with ISO such as the sleeve containing the Petri dishes before you open it.
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Edited by Guerrilla (08/22/22 08:34 AM)
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Vibetyme]
#27913335 - 08/22/22 08:34 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Much appreciated
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Guerrilla] 1
#27913337 - 08/22/22 08:35 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sweet. I'll start making my list
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Auzman]
#27913348 - 08/22/22 08:39 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Does your pet have opposable thumbs or are you asking for yourself? Make sure you pick up a dehydrator before you need it.
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: The Tao]
#27913418 - 08/22/22 09:39 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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toss the spawn bag, do PF tek. links in sig
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: bakedbeings] 2
#27913424 - 08/22/22 09:44 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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PF tek is suitable for a beginner wanting a small supply with use of a a spore syringe, sure, but if OP's willing to get the resources and try to learn agar, fuckin good on him. No need to push PF onto someone willing to learn.
I would actually suggest maybe you do PF tek also, but not to toss the spawn bag that you've paid money for.
Use the PF tek as a backup so you can surely get some mushrooms while you are learning agar. It would be a few extra supplies on top of what I mentioned, but worth the insurance IMO.
Once you get the hang of agar it's definitely advisable to ditch buying premade grain spawn, get a pressure cooker and do your own. Purchased grain spawn isn't always going to be clean but if you purchased from a solid vendor it should be fine.
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Edited by Guerrilla (08/22/22 09:47 AM)
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Guerrilla] 2
#27913560 - 08/22/22 11:53 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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totally sound advice, guerrilla. i give major props to noobs who start day 1 with agar
i responded the way i did because 1) the fact that he bought a bag tells me he doesnt already have a pressure cooker, 2) he was all lined up to shoot some spores into something and let it colonize, so why not do the same thing but the right way, and 3) dry spores usually have a better time on agar than spore solution, and teasing apart healthy myc from a baceterial plate is pretty high level for your first grow, so i figured he could spend his syringe the way it was intended and get a cornucopia of spore prints and cloning material while shopping for a PC, building a SAB, researching agar teks, etc (if thats the way he wants to go)
but at the end of the day this site is all about letting ideas comingle. OP should read (almost) everyones opinions and do whatever makes sense. if he nocs up that bag there is either a 100% or 0% chance he'll harvest something, thats the funny thing about those products
edit - 1 once got 7 ounces out of one syringe with PF TEK, and i once bought 10 spawn bags to watch 7 turn green and 3 fill with yogurt...so you bet youre ass im biased as fuck
Edited by bakedbeings (08/22/22 11:59 AM)
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: bakedbeings]
#27913634 - 08/22/22 12:43 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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marketing really has a grip on the pre-made grain spawn unfortunately its such a crap shoot - especially if you want to grow more than one time lol
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: bakedbeings] 1
#27913635 - 08/22/22 12:45 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha I appreciate everything you're saying bro, and your edit. 
But just to address point number 2, OP actually never suggested he was going to inject the spores, it sounded like quite the opposite.
He asked what other materials he would need and what he would need to do with them in order to have a successful grow. If you read again you will see what I mean (particularly the $200 budget part - you wouldn't have such budget if you planned on shooting the spores you have into the grain you already have).
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Edited by Guerrilla (08/22/22 01:18 PM)
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Auzman]
#27913690 - 08/22/22 01:39 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Auzman said: So my pet has some spores...and a spawn bag. He needs to know what else he would need to aquire and what to do with those acquired things(in layman's terms) to make a successful grow happen. He also has around a 200$ budget. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
This link has everything you need my friend: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24420178
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Ashtray161] 1
#27913737 - 08/22/22 02:27 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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fair enough. i did jump to some conclusions. he didnt even say it was a ms syringe. i saw "spawn bag" and immediately got PTSD
to consider the $200 budget, when you add up the PC, SAB, scalpels, torch, plates, agar, etcetera, it does get a bit tight. not saying it cant be done, all depends on where you live i guess. i personally would not be able to buy those things for that amount of money, which is why PF tek came to mind
because i never pressure noobs to do PF. thats definitely not my main thing. this was the first time
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: bakedbeings]
#27913749 - 08/22/22 02:36 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Bakedbeings said: fair enough. i did jump to some conclusions. he didnt even say it was a ms syringe. i saw "spawn bag" and immediately got PTSD
to consider the $200 budget, when you add up the PC, SAB, scalpels, torch, plates, agar, etcetera, it does get a bit tight. not saying it cant be done, all depends on where you live i guess. i personally would not be able to buy those things for that amount of money, which is why PF tek came to mind
because i never pressure noobs to do PF. thats definitely not my main thing. this was the first time

Depends also on how many things you already have lying around the house, whether you buy new or used ect. $200 could certainly be enough imo, but yea could be tight, especially if they buy everything new
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Edited by Ashtray161 (08/22/22 02:36 PM)
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Auzman]
#27923863 - 08/29/22 10:47 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you guys. I'll toss that bag lmao. Got a dehydrator awhile ago. Also yes my pet has opposable thumbs. The things this chimpanzee gets into, I'll tell ya
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Auzman]
#27923902 - 08/29/22 11:14 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Honestly in this day and age if someone said their pet was capable of all these things you’d probably get raided just because apparently your pet is human tier intelligence.
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Screwup]
#27928654 - 09/01/22 08:02 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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That would make amazing headlines lmfaoo
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Auzman]
#27928734 - 09/01/22 09:16 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I went with spore syringe to all in one bag for my first run. I had no clue what I was doing. Stuff was dropped in my lap and went off some PDF I was given with the stuff. I ended up with 3 bacterial bags and one that never did anything. Of the 3 bags, one fruited decently, one had a few fruits and the other did nothing except sit there. I probably got like 30 grams dried out of all of that spawn.
The way you are starting out is far, FAR superior. The knowledge you'll gain here is immense. One little niblet about using the search engine. This site is legendary old and you'll come across a ton of great universal info and then also a lot of depreciated teks too. Many of them are clear and have a link to the current standard, some don't though. For example, I went out and made a SGFC and knowing what I now know, probably would have gone with a water tub or spawned to shoeboxes since without much dialing in my SGFC was prone to drying out cakes. Stuff like that, live and learn. I got good results out of the SGFC but it was more work that wasn't necessary.
Good luck, hope to see you around! Cheers!
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Vibetyme]
#27928750 - 09/01/22 09:29 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gonna use that pf tek. I'll update the results in another or so.
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Re: HELP!!! Beginner mycologist [Re: Auzman]
#27928756 - 09/01/22 09:34 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I got only 3 jars to take with my first grow but did great. Having terrible time getting grain to grow. I did 3 jars only 1 not contaminated. My problem is I wanted to increase humidity in my martha tent. I have a cool mist humidifier on the bottom and the hydroponic one I just bought. Humidity is still hovering around 70. Any suggestions other than misting? Should I get a fogger?
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