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Is this microscope suitable for breeding?
    #27910928 - 08/20/22 08:53 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Hi,

1) Is this microscope suitable for breeding?
1a) Will it be good quality for what I want to do / easy to view spores and work with them?
2) Is it much more worth getting a pricier one?
3) I can view Petris under it, right?
4) Is there anything else I should know?


https://amscope.co.uk/products/amscope-40x-1000x-binocular-biological-microscope-with-mechanical-stage?_pos=1&_sid=90115d6aa&_ss=r


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Re: Is this microscope suitable for breeding? [Re: Guerrilla]
    #27910995 - 08/20/22 09:43 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I got this one and it's exceeded my expectations by all means. Ide definetly suggest a trinocular, and although the 2000 and 2500x magnifications are invaluable because of how thin light can pass through things essentially, if I understand correctly you can still benefit from 1500ish magnification.

Limited-time deal: Swift SW380T 40X-2500X Magnification, Siedentopf Head, Research-Grade Trinocular Microscope Compound Lab with Wide-Field 10X/25X Eyepieces, Mechanical Stage, Ultra-Precise Focusing, Camera-Compatible


https://a.co/d/9sTNm8B


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Re: Is this microscope suitable for breeding? [Re: Farm3r]
    #27911000 - 08/20/22 09:46 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Thanks man! They have that one on Amazon UK, if it's exceeded your expectations that's good enough for me.


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Re: Is this microscope suitable for breeding? [Re: Guerrilla] * 1
    #27911190 - 08/20/22 11:48 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

And don't get a microscope camera, get a phone adapter for your scope. I don't even view through the lenses anymore because of eye fatigue. I'll hook up the phone up top and view through that. And you may even try different phones with different settings for different qualities.


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Re: Is this microscope suitable for breeding? [Re: Farm3r]
    #27911218 - 08/20/22 12:15 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Awesome, I had read people advising against the cameras, but didn't know there was phone adapters. Cheers again!


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Re: Is this microscope suitable for breeding? [Re: Guerrilla] * 1
    #27923980 - 08/29/22 11:57 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

The only reason I wouldn't get the microscope linked in the OP is that it has a halogen light, and LED illumination is a lot better.  LED takes less power, has a better color temperature (no yellow cast) makes less heat and the bulb lasts a lot longer. 

I like to use a cell phone for microscope photography, though I don't use cell phone adapters.  They are good for video, but for photos I just hold the phone up to the eyepiece, it's quick and easy with some practice.  If you are doing measurements get a stage micrometer, and use a camera app that allows manual focus.  Always set the manual focus the same - all the way close or far, and always keep the phone the same distance from the eyepiece.  Both these factors affect your measurements.  I use a plastic spacer to keep the phone a constant distance from the eyepiece - you can 3d print one, or cut one from a piece of garden hose or even a bottle cap - ideally something black to reduce reflected light, providing better contrast.

See also the Shroomery microscopy forum, https://www.facebook.com/groups/FungalMicroscopy and https://www.facebook.com/groups/254539018060854.


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Re: Is this microscope suitable for breeding? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #27924025 - 08/29/22 12:33 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Which one would you recommend Alan?

You should try the phone adapters, they're great!


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Re: Is this microscope suitable for breeding? [Re: Farm3r]
    #27937013 - 09/06/22 10:51 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I'm confused about the "for breeding" part involving a microscope. I bread weed where you know the parents, and mushrooms seems more indefinite, but either way, you're waiting for the next generation I thought to assess your success.

Maybe I'm not understanding something.


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Re: Is this microscope suitable for breeding? [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #27937042 - 09/06/22 11:10 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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I'm confused about the "for breeding" part involving a microscope. I bread weed where you know the parents, and mushrooms seems more indefinite, but either way, you're waiting for the next generation I thought to assess your success.

Maybe I'm not understanding something.




Isolating and pairing monokaryons

Not necessary for standard breeding methods sure, but allows for monocultures and easier pairing of species such as Natalensis and Cubensis


Edited by Guerrilla (09/06/22 11:13 AM)


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Re: Is this microscope suitable for breeding? [Re: Guerrilla]
    #27937080 - 09/06/22 11:28 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

You may not even need to isolate spores for a nat cube cross because they're so closely related.


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Re: Is this microscope suitable for breeding? [Re: Farm3r] * 1
    #27937104 - 09/06/22 11:43 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Many have tried with no success, crackatoa being one.

The only people I'm aware of that have reported success in crossing nats and cubes are Yoshi and his friend Judge Doom, both of whom isolated and paired monokaryons.


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Re: Is this microscope suitable for breeding? [Re: Guerrilla] * 1
    #27939921 - 09/08/22 07:24 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

It's a good one. I would add, look for some 25x ocular lenses, those come with 10x. Having the option to just jump up 2.5x mag is brilliant.


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Re: Is this microscope suitable for breeding? [Re: Muad.Dweeb]
    #27959853 - 09/20/22 10:04 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Which one would you recommend Alan?




This one:  https://www.motic.com/As_PanC2_Microscope/product_850.html

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You should try the phone adapters, they're great!




Nah, I like not having to deal with apps to keep the autofocus in check, having a button on my desk that I press to capture photos (remote shutter release), high resolution, low ISO and solid attachment of my Nikon  Z7.

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It's a good one. I would add, look for some 25x ocular lenses, those come with 10x. Having the option to just jump up 2.5x mag is brilliant.




Those provide empty magnification, making the image larger but not more clear.  For maximum clarity 10x oculars are best.


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Re: Is this microscope suitable for breeding? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #27960133 - 09/21/22 05:14 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Lol of you need a quote for it it is probably to expensive hahaha.

What kind of percs, besides the light, does that model offer beyond other entry level models?


And I've been thinking about getting camera for my mic as well. It's crazy tho cause phone cameras are nearly comparable if not better than some cheaper real cameras.

I actually have a buddy who does macro photography and we have a project in the works hopefully


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Re: Is this microscope suitable for breeding? [Re: Farm3r]
    #27970728 - 09/27/22 02:07 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Lol of you need a quote for it it is probably to expensive hahaha.




Around 2k I think.

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What kind of percs, besides the light, does that model offer beyond other entry level models?




The main things are the high end objectives (plan achromatic infinity objectives) which give a nice clear picture, and good build quality - which is especially nice when making fine movements at the highest magnification.


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And I've been thinking about getting camera for my mic as well. It's crazy tho cause phone cameras are nearly comparable if not better than some cheaper real cameras.




I use a Nikon Z7 for my microscope and like it a lot.  Mirrorless are nice because the mirror in the shutter shakes the whole thing, which adds blur.  Mirrorless can be silent, though I use the normal mode which is not silent.  It shakes the whole thing, but not until it's done taking the photo, so not bad unless you are focus stacking and taking lots of photos quickly - in which case I turn on silent mode.


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