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New Dosing 500ug
    #27908981 - 08/19/22 12:29 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I’ve been following and searching through threads and decided to make my own post for some advice or thoughts I guess.

I have an experienced background with LSD particularly, have had breakthroughs/blast offs with DMT as well and light dabbling with shrooms as them mess my stomach up and don’t seem to agree with my ideals of an enjoyable trip.
My last trip was roughly 8-9 years ago, I was heavily dosing perforated fluff (what it was sold to me as and being young I just went with it) with anywhere from 5-8 tabs regularly and had days I decided to take up to 12+. It was either severely under dosed or my tolerance built up enough that the heavy doses weren’t anything unbearable… bending trees, vibrant colors, melting walls etc… seemingly a 300-400ug trip from what I’ve read.

Recently I had the idea to get my hands on some L to maybe help have a mental/emotional shift as I’ve kind of transformed into this very serious and money driven business owner, my friends always say I’m too serious and to lighten up 🤷♂️ 
I got 50 hits of purple gel pyramids with gold flake from a trusted source who attends burning man and I’ve known for years (got an ehrlich and hoffmans test kit to validate LSD presence)

My plan was to dose 300ug to see where that lands me, but seeing how my ultimate goal is to really have a level 4 experience (wouldn’t mind a level 5 if it happened) I’m curious what some thoughts are on maybe bumping to 400-500ug to really solidify the trip and ensure I won’t fall short of the goal.

I’m prepared for hard times that may arise, and have Xanax on hand should I end up needing it.
Set is prepared for the unknown at this point and setting will be staged appropriately in my living room with tapestries, galaxy ceiling LED lights etc… no kids home, wife will not be home. Just me as I had asked her for time to do this because I feel like ide be freaked out taking this trip with her and the kid in the house.

Hoping for some feedback or advice here other than the obvious “you haven’t tripped in 9 years don’t take 400+ug”
Am open to reasons why not to take so much, but again I’m prepared and have experience with terrifying DMT breakthroughs as well as blissful DMT experiences as well so I feel that with the reasoning and preparation I have mayve 4-500 mic may be the ideal choice for the goals of a level 4-5 experience

Thanks in advanced 😎


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Re: New Dosing 500ug [Re: CDTrip]
    #27908990 - 08/19/22 01:17 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

It is highly ill advised to take such a reckless amount without a sitter. I am curious as to why you are asking strangers on the Internet about this.

When you were taking high doses 9 years ago, you had a tolerance and familiarity with the headspace. You probably partied with folks on a similar wavelength, and definitely had less responsibilities.

I am curious about the thought process that makes you seem so set on taking such a high dose, unsupervised, diving straight into the deep end, especially when you are sitting on enough lsd to carefully work your way up?

Also, I'd like to point out that even 9 years ago, the consensus at the shroomery is that the average consumer has absolutely no way to know for sure how many ug's are in a dose, sheets can be laid unevenly.


If the experience goes off the rails, what makes you think you'll have the presence of mind to take that Xanax instead of simply removing all your clothes and walking out your front door to direct traffic?

Just because lsd is physically non-toxic doesn't mean your mind can't snap, it does happen from time to time, even at lower doses. Not as big a deal in your 20's, but if you have a family that depends on you, there is no reason not to observe some basic safety protocols such as working your way up or having a trusted sitter.

For me, any amount of LSD feels therapeutic, but at a certain point, often as low as 2 and 3 strong hits, the experience just becomes confusing and jumbled, nothing makes sense, and the afterglow isn't any stronger the following week. I also don't recall much of the experience anyway.

I would start with 1 max (I usually start with half a hit if it's a batch I haven't tried yet), wait 90 minutes or so, then ask yourself if you really need to take a second hit. You have enough on hand to really dial it in and find your sweet spot.

There is no guarantee that a powerfully overwhelming psychedelic experience is going to change you for the better.

You're gonna do what you're gonna do. I think you should have more respect for the substance, and more importantly, for yourself.


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Re: New Dosing 500ug [Re: jack_straw2208]
    #27909662 - 08/19/22 01:32 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I’m asking strangers on the internet because I have enough sense to have an idea who is and is not offering hood advice and I don’t have a reliable person to speak to these things about nowadays. And The reason for not wanting to dose with an audience is the fact that the only drug I’ve found myself comfortable doing with company present is alcohol. Even smoking weed around others kind of puts me in a weird mindset.

The reason for me wanting to jump into a heavy dose rapidly is because I personally remember taking smaller doses when I was younger… was a lot of laughing uncontrollably, staring at wood grain swirl or carpets breathe, waving my hands to watch tracers etc… that’s not the goal in particular currently. My mindset is not “this will be fun” it’s more of “this will be an experience”. And my wife and kid are leaving town for a few days so I have the house alone, with no responsibility and nothing to worry about… I can set the house up (she would be thrown off to see trippy tapestries, galaxy lighting, looped YouTube videos on the tv) and not have the paranoia of “is she judging me” because she has done LSD but not as heavily as I once was and to understand this kind of thing you kind of have to live through it.

Maybe I’ll give 1 dose a shot the day she leaves just to get a feel for how strong they may or may not be and then make a better educated decision wether I can really dose hard the following day or day after.
Hoping a few more folks chime in on this and appreciate the reply as well.
My test kit actually just arrived now so will be validating that it’s LDS right now and this entire thing may be called off anyhow 😂


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Re: New Dosing 500ug [Re: CDTrip]
    #27909704 - 08/19/22 02:03 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Yea since potency can be so variable a test trip may be wise.

Ive had tabs that were triple the dose of other tabs.


And when you take your big dose, I would set up your bed so you can relax and once you are past the peak you can consider going on a walk or something.

Mushrooms arent bad in tea, try that next time to avoid the stomach stuff. I prefer shrooms cuz they last half as long as cid, when I trip on acid my diet gets fucked up because I am tripping so long and dont want to eat.

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Re: New Dosing 500ug [Re: The Mycologist]
    #27909961 - 08/19/22 04:56 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Both the ehrlich and Hofmann test kit validated the presence of presence of LSD 😎


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Re: New Dosing 500ug [Re: The Mycologist]
    #27909968 - 08/19/22 05:01 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Yea I feel it would be wise to take 1 dose to see where that lands me and help gauge how many tabs would be appropriate for the “main trip” I guess I would call it.

I asked what the dose was on them (again this is a hippies personal stash obtained from burning man) and they said their educated guess would be on the high side of 100 maybe 110-120ish and feel like they have no motive to lie, the sale is done and I trust the person… regardless I’ll be taking 1 hit as a baseline for reference.


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Re: New Dosing 500ug [Re: CDTrip] * 1
    #27910100 - 08/19/22 06:41 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Its definitely smart to always test new batches.

300ug can be completely overwhelming, pure confusion, many folks report having very little recollection of the experience.

I don't mean to come off as overly harsh, it's just that to me, eating someone talk about wanting to experience a "level 4 or 5" trip is like someone who's done some rock climbing in their youth looking at a map of the the Himalayas and being like "I have decided to climb Mt. Everest alone, I have a really sweet Northface jacket that's rated for sub zero weather, don't tell me it's a bad idea!"

Heavy psychedelic experiences can dramatically alter the way you perceive yourself and how you relate to the world, and there isn't any guarantee that it will be for the better.

There is a number of people on the web and in psychedelic culture that act as if anything less than a heroic dose is a waste of time and I have my own theories on why they seem to so adamantly defend their position and look down their noses at the idea there can be any benefit to taking moderate, functional doses.

I personally have completely lost touch with reality on at least 2 separate occasions with traditional psychedelics, it's not fun, I don't feel I gained any particularly useful insights from either experience, I was extremely grateful when I finally did return to my baseline consciousness, but it didn't reveal anything to me or leave an afterglow any stronger than a small to moderate dose does.


YMMV, but it would be very irresponsible to tell a family's breadwinner to go ahead and risk their sanity in such a careless manner, seemingly on a whim.

It is also important to know that 200 ug can often be much more than twice as intense as a 100ug dose, 300ug and many folks forget they even took a drug at all.

You don't have to be safe, but please be smart.


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Re: New Dosing 500ug [Re: jack_straw2208]
    #27922984 - 08/28/22 06:28 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Wound up getting sick so postponed the trip.
Just took 2 of the purple gels with gold flake about 45 min ago and they’re kicking in harder and faster than other tabs I’ve experienced to my memory at least.

These 2 should be a good gauge on how many it may take to get to the level 4 I’m seeking if they’re in fact not enough themselves.

Will try to do a log on the experience tomorrow 😎


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Re: New Dosing 500ug [Re: CDTrip]
    #27923638 - 08/29/22 07:52 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Quote:

CDTrip said:
Maybe I’ll give 1 dose a shot the day she leaves just to get a feel for how strong they may or may not be and then make a better educated decision wether I can really dose hard the following day or day after.



this is going to have an extremely heavy impact on your tolerance if you try to dose the day after a trip...

tolerance for tryptamines like LSD and psilocybin in my experience build up extremely quickly... in a matter of hours... like if you try to re-dose an hour after taking a dose, the second dose would have a lot less of an additional affect than it would if you took it with the initial dose.

tripping even a few days apart can diminish the experience significantly. to minimize tolerance, I always went with the rule of a week between doses minimum.

also, id be careful with your microgram estimations... most people are way off your description of the 300-400ug estimated dose with bending trees and vibrant colors sounds closer to 100 to 150ug to me. 300ug had me feeling like my body was being disassembled by the universe.

honestly the only way youll ever *really* know the dosage is if you lay the sheet yourself. but threshold dosage for lsd is usually considered to be around 40ug, so you can kinda base it on that... if you take one hit and dont feel anything, and then another time you take 2 hits and you feel it, then you can estimate that your blotter  is somewhere around 30ug per hit as an example... yes most blotter that ive experienced was pretty watered down like that. any blotter thats more than 60ug per hit was super rare 10 years ago when I was doing it.


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Re: New Dosing 500ug [Re: CDTrip]
    #27923648 - 08/29/22 08:02 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Quote:

CDTrip said:
they said their educated guess would be on the high side of 100 maybe 110-120ish



no shot

im sure its good stuff, and the guy you bought it from might have no intention to lie, but he probably doesnt know either... blotter with more than 100ug is basically unheard of as far as i know.

if youre talking about gel tabs though, thats a different story... gel tabs can have up to 200ug per tab if I remember right

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also, btw, I found the post, this is the most accurate description of lsd dosage to base your estimations off of:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7295174#7295174


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Re: New Dosing 500ug [Re: sailing]
    #27923662 - 08/29/22 08:11 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

one more thing, if you plan on doing more than 2 or 3 hits, you should be VERY sure that what you have is actually acid and not some RC...

if met plenty of people in my experiences who were self-described acid heads and thought the real acid I gave them was an RC because 'it didnt have that acid taste' ... little did they know real acid doesnt have a taste... and a short while later, their minds were blown... investing in an ehrlich test kit (which unfortunately can be tricked by mixing a small amount of lsd with an RC) can greatly improve your chances of identifying an RC and potentially save your life... worth the investment. ... and then of course theres some other telltale signs... if it tastes strongly of mint... its probably because someones trying to mask the strong chemical taste of an RC. no one puts real acid in a mint dropper.


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Re: New Dosing 500ug [Re: sailing]
    #27923750 - 08/29/22 09:28 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Yes I learned last night and specified in the original post that my initial hits must have been extremely under dosed per the descriptions of the trip levels per UG experience

However these 2 gels blew my mind. Was a harder trip than ever before. Maybe due to 0 tolerance. Maybe due to being 30 and not 20 years old. But non the less these are from a hippies personal stash so I expected them to be strong but wow.

Nothing absolutely mind blowing off the 200ug (was told they’re 115 each but let’s just say 200) but definitely a very strong experience

Will do a full log of what I can recall later on when I’m done gathering myself


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Re: New Dosing 500ug [Re: sailing] * 1
    #27923756 - 08/29/22 09:31 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Yes they’re gels.

Purple with gold flake.

And after the ehrlich and hofmann test I’m 100% certain it’s lsd,


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Re: New Dosing 500ug [Re: CDTrip]
    #27923837 - 08/29/22 10:22 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

nice! sounds like good stuff


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