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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: starpig] * 1
    #27930655 - 09/02/22 01:35 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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But everything is already nature. You can’t return to someplace you never left.




City or suburban life is nothing like Nature. Its more Humanity changing Nature for its own use. Parking lots with a few trees is a great example. Have u never been to a National Park?


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #27930680 - 09/02/22 01:53 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

“Nature” is just some arbitrary distinction humanity made. I have been to a national park but trees and lakes and mountains are no less natural than cities, cars computers, etc.

You are imagining the idealized picture humans have of nature. The arbitrary distinction that only exists in your head.


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: starpig]
    #27930725 - 09/02/22 02:15 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Is it much of a reset?




Yes it is. 

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Sounds more like running away




We won't be running away to the camping spot, that would be ridiculous to run away carrying all that food and gear. It's over 200km from where we live. We will drive away.

Do you not own a car? Do you enjoy running?


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: Markamello]
    #27930825 - 09/02/22 03:27 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I do enjoy running but I don't do it because then I'll miss everything along the way or might step on a bug. So I just walk everywhere.


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: starpig]
    #27930846 - 09/02/22 03:42 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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I do enjoy running but I don't do it because then I'll miss everything along the way or might step on a bug. So I just walk everywhere.




Yeah I hate bugs too. This week I had the pest guy come around to spray for bugs and spiders. Bit pricey but it kills every insect on the property and keeps killing them for six months. I never have to step on em because they die before I can see em. You should look into it. Usually they can supply a free quote over the phone


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: Markamello]
    #27931131 - 09/02/22 06:40 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I think you misunderstand. I love bugs so I walk so I don't kill them. In my house I catch them and put them outside, even roaches.


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: starpig]
    #27931175 - 09/02/22 07:12 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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I think you misunderstand. I love bugs so I walk so I don't kill them. In my house I catch them and put them outside, even roaches.



Interesting.
Why would you put them outside if you love them so much?


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: Markamello]
    #27931185 - 09/02/22 07:20 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Because otherwise they’ll die inside the house


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: starpig]
    #27931530 - 09/02/22 11:37 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Why would they die inside the house? Have you already had the pest guy come around and spray?


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: Markamello]
    #27931546 - 09/02/22 11:53 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Your troll of a troll is entertaining

Discrete enough to get him to bite, but with just enough ridiculousness so that once he does, we can all chuckle

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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: Markamello]
    #27931821 - 09/03/22 08:07 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

No they can’t get food or hunt well in the house. They’ll starve to death.


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: starpig] * 1
    #27932404 - 09/03/22 03:18 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Maybe they enter the house because it is just another part of nature and their habitat. Like you said, "Nature” is just some arbitrary distinction humanity made. Maybe they know exactly what they're doing and you're just fucking with their ecosystem and you're actually taking them out of the situation they've put themselves in.


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: starpig]
    #27932406 - 09/03/22 03:19 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Really brings up the question.

Who are you to play God?


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: Markamello]
    #27933301 - 09/04/22 09:07 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Not really. Looking at insect behavior and animals in general they tend to not know what they’re doing when not outdoors. When I’m a building birds tend to fly up when you try to help even if the exit is down. Same with other flying insects. They don’t know you’re trying to help so they act on instinct but instinct doesn’t help in an unfamiliar environment.

Yes it’s all nature but the thing about nature is that animals are adapted to specific environments. Adaptation takes lifetimes to trigger and in our modern world the environment has shifted dramatically which tends to lead to fatality to animals that aren’t adapted to it. Same would happen for any major shift in the world. Though this environment now requires reasoning ability a lot of animals simply don’t have.

So in the case of insects I want to put them in a position they can do something about give their ability. Like when a grasshopper flew into my house, I caught it and put it out. It doesn’t know better, it’s just acting. It doesn’t know there is no food and it doesn’t truly know the way out.

I’ve done this enough to understand more or less their behavior in regards to being human environments and how I’ll adapted they are to them, well certain species.

It is all nature but not everything can survive everywhere. So perhaps, also being part of nature, compassion for animals and insects also is some adaptation to enable their survival given our terraforming so to speak, or not, who knows.

Though I do find the expression “playing god” adorable, as if we have any idea of what god is like to even have that make sense. Let alone the fact that the universe doesn’t give a shit whether you do or don’t . All there are are actions and consequences. Trying to moralize that is small minded.


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: starpig] * 1
    #27933317 - 09/04/22 09:30 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Starpig, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: Markamello]
    #27933374 - 09/04/22 10:13 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Yeah I didn’t really expect you to understand. But one must still try.


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: starpig]
    #27933472 - 09/04/22 10:58 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

It must get tiring having to explain everything to everyone all day, everyday. Your employees must be grateful to work for someone with so much knowledge about everything.


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: Markamello]
    #27933478 - 09/04/22 11:01 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Well most at least get where I’m coming from. I can’t say I understand what it’s like to be you, dismissing things they don’t understand as irrational.

Then again given your off base analysis of me I understand. Which is what makes your reply predictable


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: Markamello]
    #27933495 - 09/04/22 11:12 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Starpig, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.



This is a well known quote from an old Adam Sandler movie. I didnt dismiss it as being irrational. It was joke.

I haven't made an analysis of you. I don't know you. All I know about you is that your boyfriend dumped you, you have no friends, you don't have any personality and you know a lot about everything.


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Re: How to get a personality or make friends? [Re: Markamello]
    #27933501 - 09/04/22 11:15 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Just another example of how you don’t understand let alone pay attention. Neither of us dumped each other we just parted ways. It sucks but it happens, we weren’t right for each other.


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