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Anonymous #1

Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? * 1
    #27903796 - 08/15/22 12:34 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I went to see Nope. And to me it was full of Jordan Peele s take on white people being the worst ,being the worst kind of people in every way.

I enjoyed it . But I could not get over the obvious interpretations and the sublime ones .

Even in his sketch comedy hes subtle in poking fun at whites as well. This is really not a problem for me as much as the sensitivity of the American black community to see that racism towards whites is starting to increase while not addressing many whites don't give a fuck if they're who they are or not. And also not being able to be made fun of as well with the same graces.

That many tropes of white people on film have become just that, a used up trope that was only new 20 years ago and now it's sad and boring .


Is there any new angle anymore ? Or is it just a repeat of how white men are the super villian brainwashing while not addressing reality of the majority of urban crimes nationwide?

Im sick of what I think that I'm previewing of what I believe is his racist bullshit to sell a narrative to stupid blacks maybe in his skits and movies and I'm starting to suspect he's racist towards whites generally .


Edited by Anonymous (08/15/22 12:35 AM)


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Anonymous #2

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #27904601 - 08/15/22 05:10 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Anonymous #1 said:
And to me it was full of Jordan Peele s take on white people being the worst ,being the worst kind of people in every way.







That's all of Hollywood now though. And not just Hollywood of course. Look at this forum for example. 98% of this forum is white but probably half the posters here hate their own skin color. Or have separated themselves from other white people by not seeing themselves as white; or seeing themselves as one of the "good" white people.

It's being taught now that white people are inherently evil, bloodthirsty racists. It's being taught in schools, from grade school to the university level. It's even being taught in some workplaces in subtle (in some cases it's not even that subtle) ways.

In Minnesota it has been reported today that the teachers union there has proposed that white teachers be laid off first in the event of budget cuts.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #27904623 - 08/15/22 05:36 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Sad pathetic people bring sad sad times for the rest it seems

I still don't understand why I haven't been strung up and stoned to death for the things my great grandfather MAY have believed in.  Oh well....


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Anonymous #4

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #3] * 2
    #27904651 - 08/15/22 05:57 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

It’s like every generation that gets released from public schools is just magnitudes more fucked up than the one before.  I think if you were to go all the way to the top it’s just an attempt to sow confusion, is essentially an attempt at sabotage and the next layer down are people who run with it because they’re pretty dull.  With the US out of the way a lot of bad people get their way.  The bad part about it is when I look around I see a lot of spoiled people not really interested in understanding how the world works and no real experience with what bad people are.  There’s going to be a lot of very ungrateful people met with a very rude awakening if things continue the way they are going.  The irony of running head first into so many lessons we should be well aware of from history.  My optimism isn’t real high given the everything is tolerable, do what feels good, morals down the shitter fantasy world that’s being pushed.  People asking for their own demise and willing to fight for it.

As far as comedy goes, “black people be like, white people be like” is such a hack routine it, like most of these things, only works on the stupid ones.  Mass stupidity has gone off the rails and I don’t think it’s magically going to fix itself.  There’s still kids coming through the school systems without becoming brainwashed.  There’s plenty of black people who see BLM for what it is.  For all the good ones out there you’re not alone.  Never give up.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #2] * 1
    #27905145 - 08/16/22 04:26 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Anonymous #2 said:
probably half the posters here hate their own skin color.




utter nonsense, i see nothing of that and i'm on this forum like brown on BRF.

Its used as an argument by people who consider any admission that white history wasnt squeaky clean, straight up race treason.

The Shroomery is not a petting zoo for racially insecure white people.

White people historically have made bad calls. Doesnt mean I hate whiteness or being white. If there is anything no race needs is a participation trophy.

If you made a bad test you get a bad grade for that but you're not a bad kid.


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Anonymous #6

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #27905146 - 08/16/22 04:27 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Who is Jordan Peele?


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Anonymous #5

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #27905176 - 08/16/22 05:16 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Anonymous #6 said:
Who is Jordan Peele?





A comedian OP enjoys, then feels victimized by as a white man, then accuses of racism. "Who is OP?" is my question.







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Anonymous #7

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #27905316 - 08/16/22 08:16 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

His comedies may be halfway decent racist garbage but his movie US was off the rails scary shit. The overuse of "I've got 5 on it" was a little confusing LOL but even more badass and scary. Many critics called US very cliche then later praised Midsommar. If you ask me Ari Aster wishes he could be pills version of brilliant horror making genre thinking creating sort of thing. Midsommar was truly cliche. At least in the ending. I do concede to admit I have not seen many of Peele's other horror movies besides US. I believe he only makes a few. And I'm not like so fanatical about his comedies I mean they are subpar funny. His movies I think are actually pretty spectacular. From what I have seen.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #27905379 - 08/16/22 09:03 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Not any of your damn business is the answer to who the OP is . If I want to be anonymous and have the right and the action while asking a question thats my right .

I enjoyed the movie Nope, yes. However, I don't think I'll be enjoying any more of Jordan Peeles content bc I believe hes rasict towards whites and I thought I'd collect some opinions here to see if I may be on the right track without showing my idenity .

Guess what? There isn't anything wrong witht that in case you want to know the truth of it .


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Anonymous #1

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #27905387 - 08/16/22 09:09 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Us was great and scary and I liked it too.

But the whole white people are evil and/or their culture is bs is becomeing a dumb and weak trope when it's apparent when most whites in 2022 dont care if blacks or any other race for that matter is successful .

At least not for myself Im speaking . There are moments in Nope that seem to mock white culture while glossing over and not addressing the horror and reality of black on black violence or rape or crime or racism or anything ....

As if it doesnt exist within their demographic and Im not fooled by that .


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Anonymous #8

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27905432 - 08/16/22 10:08 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I'm sure that's why key n peele show is no more. I miss comedic peel myself instead of the guy trying to make up for years of racism in American movies.


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Anonymous #9

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #27905456 - 08/16/22 10:33 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

So, what you've got to understand is the distinction between whiteness, and white people. White people are just people. Whiteness on the other hand is a pretty silly fucked up concept, used to justify all sorts of horrible shit historically. Critiquing whiteness is not the same as taking issue with white people.

Anyway, racial discourse gets fucking exhausting so i'm not gonna go on about it.

I haven't seen his movies so I can't really say. But, maybe , those overused tropes and cliches are intentional? Maybe there are some tropes and cliches that black folks have endured(think: drugs, gang violence), and so he's reflecting that experience onto a white audience? Maybe your discomfort was intentional, and you ought to think deeper on it?

Or you could like just watch a movie without trying to find a reason for it to offend you :shrug:


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Anonymous #1

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #27905530 - 08/16/22 11:39 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I don't agree that "all" concepts of whiteness are deleterious . just like we all know that not every aspect of "blackness" is also not beneficial to society as a whole .

The facts are there are positive aspects of both if you examine them both in entire.

But subjecting one or the other as a complete target the negative is foolish in my opinion.

I also think it doesnt help if you are trying to cure racism or bad deeds of a group from the past upon a furture generation that doesn't exhibit those actions is just dumb altogether .

You can't change what some dead people did to a race . by exacting "revenge" either consciously or not makes one no better in my opinion .

Want to change things for the better? Then be the example instead of forcing the same actions on a new generation s race that really doesn't agree with what their grandparents or even greater did. That doesn't solve a problem by carrying on the same tactics of the group's you hate .

It will only come back to that group and the next time it does they will deserve the actions . try it and see. But don't pretend to be antiracist and then put out racist media I think. Bc its confusing for one I think .



Edited by Anonymous (08/16/22 11:46 AM)


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Anonymous #4

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #27905669 - 08/16/22 02:25 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #5 said:
i see nothing of that and i'm on this forum like brown on BRF.





I think the saying goes “like white on rice.”


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Anonymous #4

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #27905678 - 08/16/22 02:32 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #8 said:
I'm sure that's why key n peele show is no more.



I think it’s because after they stole the show from Chappelle they ran it into the ground and not many people were buying a second rate version of The Chappelle Show.


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Anonymous #9

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27905733 - 08/16/22 03:27 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I dunno man, at its core, whiteness was created to justify blackness which was used to justify slavery.
We've tried to disentangle that since "black is beautiful" ..I've started to get the sense that a new idea of what white culture is and what it means to be white is necessary too.
It's tough, you can't change the past but you can't erase it either.

And I actually agree with you in part, I see a lot of supposed anti-racists spouting what amounts to the same old divisive racist bullshit. But I give more leeway when it comes to art. It's not necessarily revenge. It's expression and exorcism of old demons. Did the movie make you feel something? Think about something? Then it's good art.


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Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #27905826 - 08/16/22 05:00 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I havent seen the movie its about but..

we live in a time where people all around us are losing their shit :dontspillme:

so, i have no trouble believing that that happened to mr Peele.

People are losing their shit, friends, collegues, offlinbe, online, public figures, people becoming so racist, antiracist, political, reliugous, misinbfiornmed that theres no talking sense to them anymore, straight up will smith doing that slap over bs in full view of the world.

people lose their shit, lets jusdt roll with it and be forgivng of people because everybody loses the plot left and right.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Asante]
    #27909715 - 08/19/22 02:07 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

As long as things stay fair between everyone im ok with that . once things become unfair between citizens of society based on the colour my skin all bets are off. Especially if another group tries to define who I am based on ignorance.

A person has to have a stand or stand to lose . that's my opinion of coarse .

but I have kids and if media narrative society is setting them up to be hated . well I will stake resistance against that if just for their futures . bc that is just .


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Anonymous #1

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #27909735 - 08/19/22 02:22 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I think of coarse the movie made me think something . but that something turned out to be many angles . while the movie was entertaining and sustained my curiosity the perspectives and interpretation of many aspects of some concepts of white culture "currently" I felt were deemed trite and partly repulsive when i think some of the truth of the portrait are in fact desirable but no one would admit it.

There is a scene where they are watching for a UFO to approach in an arena and I felt with how the scene was explained was that white people go out to see crazy hoedown like activities and no other race does .

WHICH is complete bs when you consider Latin American rancheros culture.

And especially do to the fact that he killed every white person in the scene and no other races were present . alone with killing every white person in the movie total save one that was helping the main charaters and he almost decided to kill that guy too lol.

This is a reach I m aware but there were many more scenes like this and I v noticed it a lot on panels like Netflix especailly as well . I just feel the current narrative is shit and someone should bring it up .


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Anonymous #10

Re: Do you think Jordan Peele is racist ? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27910648 - 08/20/22 03:12 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

There are definitely some really good Jordan Peele sketches that cast light on areas a lot of white people dont understand.


The shakespeare sketch comes to mind.


He definitely gets away with saying more about white people than white people could say about black people. Thats for sure. I think the dynamic is that it feels better to punch up than to punch down. So something just feels worse about a white guy saying black people are stupid than a black guy saying white people are stupid.


Both are wrong yes. But I think youd have to be pretty contorted to think they sound the same.



Of course its getting pretty viscous in the hollywood world. And I suspect will only become even more so. Lol.


I dont care though. Fuck it. I'ma get a jetski and do my own damn thing. Fuck politics. Fuck all the bullshit. Who gives a fuck. Lets burn some shit in a forest. An entire dead tree. Lets set the whole god damn thing on fire and dance around it with excellent 90s musics blasting.



What were we talking about again?


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