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People don't have enough faith in solar power technology for some reason... Not sure why. It powers my home and I'm broke as fuck and live in one of the rainiest places on Earth.
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Re: Climate Change [Re: 336]
#27966634 - 09/24/22 09:01 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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When solar powers planes and cars, maybe
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All we need to do is cover the deserts and all roofs with solar panels and harvest a few meteors full of lithium or some other element that can be used to properly store energy
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Re: Climate Change [Re: 336]
#27966641 - 09/24/22 09:10 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Lithium batteries aren't going to cut it
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The future is likely to be heavily dependent on the success of asteroid mining, I think. And improved battery tech that may use other elements / etc.
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Enlil
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Re: Climate Change [Re: 336]
#27967111 - 09/25/22 08:16 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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There won't be a lot of asteroid mining. Certainly not on a large scale.
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ballsalsa
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Re: Climate Change [Re: Enlil]
#27967122 - 09/25/22 08:25 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Not using chemical propulsion or human pilots/miners, that's for sure. Maybe someday with robots and electric propulsion. I saw a cool plasma rocket a couple years back that's supposed to run off space dust and electricity. Maybe they'll get a design like that working well enough in the next 100 years or so?
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Looks like god is trying to wipe Florida off the map with a giant hurricane again . I'm going to go fill up my car with gas and floor it all day , maybe I can help him out a little .
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just make sure you open the garage door first, lol.
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koods
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I might go storm chasing later if things pop off
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Re: Climate Change [Re: koods]
#27967351 - 09/25/22 10:51 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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fuck that. I'll be storm hiding next week. totally fucks me up on work, actually. I have a couple of jobs to go look at that might be underwater by the middle of the week.
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donwats
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A critical assessment of extreme events trends in times of global warming https://link.springer.com/article/10.1140/epjp/s13360-021-02243-9
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Existing records of past Atlantic tropical storms or hurricane numbers (from 1878 to present) indeed show a pronounced upward trend; however, the density of Atlantic shipping reports was relatively low during the first decades of this period: if the storms of the modern era (after 1965) had hypothetically occurred during those decades, a considerable number of storms probably would not have been observed by the naval observation network.
Therefore, after adjusting the time series to take into account the smaller observational capacities of the past, there remains only a small nominally positive upward trend of the tropical storms from 1878 to 2006. Statistical tests indicate that this trend is not significantly distinguishable from zero.
Furthermore, Landsea et al. [18] noted that the rising trend in Atlantic tropical storm counts is almost entirely due to the increase in only short-lived storms (<?2 days), which were most likely overlooked in the early parts of the record, as they would have had less opportunity for casual encounters with ship traffic.
If we look at hurricanes in the Atlantic basin, rather than all tropical storms, the result is similar: the reported number of hurricanes during the 1860s and 1880s was similar to nowadays and again there is no significant positive trend since that time. Evidence of an upward trend is even weaker for hurricanes hitting the coast of the USA, which show a slightly negative trend starting in the 1900s or late 1800s.
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Re: Climate Change [Re: donwats]
#27967590 - 09/25/22 01:32 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I see. So the sky turning fire colored, the massive flooding, all of those thousand year storms coming through every decade...That's all in my head.
None of it is real.
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Lynnch
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Re: Climate Change [Re: Kryptos]
#27967633 - 09/25/22 02:17 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Ice sheets melting, glaciers disappearing, sea levels rising, forests dying, forests burning, record high temperatures every year, animals going extinct, coral reefs bleaching...
Anyway, people living in reality need to focus on mitigation strategies rather than try to convince folks who are stuck 20 years behind.
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donwats
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Re: Climate Change [Re: Lynnch]
#27967660 - 09/25/22 02:40 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Trust the science

The average surface temperature has maybe increased by about one degree centigrade from the pre-industrial era, and that may or not be caused by carbon and methane. That is all we know, other then they pump out allot of fear.
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Kryptos
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Re: Climate Change [Re: donwats] 2
#27967681 - 09/25/22 02:50 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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"Look at this obviously problematic and worrying rise in temperature. There is no problematic rise is temperature, and we don't know what's going on. Trust the science, bro."
Common clay of the new west, huh?
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koods
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Re: Climate Change [Re: donwats]
#27967690 - 09/25/22 02:57 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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donwats said: A critical assessment of extreme events trends in times of global warming https://link.springer.com/article/10.1140/epjp/s13360-021-02243-9
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Existing records of past Atlantic tropical storms or hurricane numbers (from 1878 to present) indeed show a pronounced upward trend; however, the density of Atlantic shipping reports was relatively low during the first decades of this period: if the storms of the modern era (after 1965) had hypothetically occurred during those decades, a considerable number of storms probably would not have been observed by the naval observation network.
Therefore, after adjusting the time series to take into account the smaller observational capacities of the past, there remains only a small nominally positive upward trend of the tropical storms from 1878 to 2006. Statistical tests indicate that this trend is not significantly distinguishable from zero.
Furthermore, Landsea et al. [18] noted that the rising trend in Atlantic tropical storm counts is almost entirely due to the increase in only short-lived storms (<?2 days), which were most likely overlooked in the early parts of the record, as they would have had less opportunity for casual encounters with ship traffic.
If we look at hurricanes in the Atlantic basin, rather than all tropical storms, the result is similar: the reported number of hurricanes during the 1860s and 1880s was similar to nowadays and again there is no significant positive trend since that time. Evidence of an upward trend is even weaker for hurricanes hitting the coast of the USA, which show a slightly negative trend starting in the 1900s or late 1800s.
The number of tropical storms varies by huge amounts year to year. They are not really a useful indicator.
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Lynnch
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Re: Climate Change [Re: donwats]
#27967735 - 09/25/22 03:17 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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donwats said: The average surface temperature has maybe increased by about one degree centigrade from the pre-industrial era, and that may or not be caused by carbon and methane. That is all we know, other then they pump out allot of fear.
Your opinion has been duly noted. If you would like to be informed of the current science, here is the source you ignored last time.
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Lynnch said: Oh buddy, no. If you want to be taken seriously on this subject you really ought to find some sources that are, i dunno, published in academic journals... crackpot youtube videos aren't sufficient.
Here, give this a quick read and get back to us: IPCC Sixth Assessment Report
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donwats
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Re: Climate Change [Re: koods]
#27967767 - 09/25/22 03:38 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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While the increase in the frequency and persistence of heat waves can easily be explained by increasing global temperatures, the observed increase in tropical cyclones in the North Atlantic, as well as having unclear reasons as claimed by the IPCC [6], seems to be a local phenomenon and substantially due to better reporting as supported by NOAA and as we will better see in the paragraph dedicated to this type of phenomena. In other areas of the planet, a decrease in the same phenomena is observed and in still others no trend is observed, essentially bringing the global evaluations to a substantial temporal invariance.
To say that maybe 1% over 100+ years is serious with no evidence that its not natural environmental change is insane. Then they ignore real issues like forever chemical (PFAS), and countless other industrial waste pollutions, plastics, plummeting sperm counts, china wont even adopt clean coal technologies.
The you have to considering the impact on the poor and middle class and the obviously power grab by the elite.
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donwats
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Re: Climate Change [Re: Lynnch]
#27967772 - 09/25/22 03:44 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Lynnch said: Oh buddy, no. If you want to be taken seriously on this subject you really ought to find some sources that are, i dunno, published in academic journals... crackpot youtube videos aren't sufficient.
The study I posted is not crackpot youtube. You can find the same report posted on researchgate.net, harvard.edu, and NASA websites.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1140/epjp/s13360-021-02243-9
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