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Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek!
    #27902542 - 08/13/22 11:40 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Hi everyone! Long time lurker, first time posting (in/about cultivation)! My partner and I just started our first grow and wanted to share as we go.

We’ve cleared out one of our closets to dedicate to our shroomies. It stays around 79–81° F (of course, it’s August, so that’s probably the warmest it will get) and 35% humidity--but we plan to keep the monotub around 95% (?). We’ve hung a 6500K LED (I know… fluorescent would probably be better, but we’re going to see how the LED does) light over where the monotub will go. I’ll post pictures when we actually have something set up in it. 😉

We are using MudaFuka’s Bottle Tek with 14 quart-sized Ziplocs that will fruit in a monotub (without a liner and using Pastywhyte’s Easy Micropore Mono Tek). We are basically using the coir-based recipe, though we’ve simplified it a bit: rye berries, coir, verm. (Hopefully it’s not *too* simple!)

We prepped the grain/substrate mix (using a mix of MudaFuka’s tek and Spitball’s Quick Rye Prep Tek) and sterilized the bottles in our (Presto 23 qt) PC today! We are inoculating tomorrow. We definitely plan to do agar/LC/etc. eventually but are just starting with MSSs for now. Going to do five Golden Teachers, five B+s, and four Oak Ridges!




Looking forward to sharing more with you all as we go and learning more from your advice/tips. 😊


8/14 UPDATE: All are inoculated!  :syringe: We used our SAB (not pictured), of course, to do the deed. :laugh: We're debating where exactly to keep them for colonization... Can't wait to see some activity!



8/15 UPDATE: We decided to put them on the shelf above the light so they get more ambient, instead of direct, light. I'll update again when we see some myc! :grin:



Edited by summerjoy (08/15/22 03:34 PM)

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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: summerjoy]
    #27902547 - 08/13/22 11:55 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Good luck! :mushroom2:

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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #27909688 - 08/19/22 01:58 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you, Dave! :grin:

8/19 UPDATE!

Five days after inoculation and we have the first signs of mycelium! :smile: There are only a couple of bottles with no obvious spots. I've attached some pics of the best-looking ones so far! The Oak Ridges seem to be the most developed; most of the B+s are looking good; and the Golden Teachers seem to be the slowest, with only one showing super obvious spots. The closet has been pretty stable at 77 F and 35% humidity.

Oak Ridge:



Golden Teacher:



B+:


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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: summerjoy]
    #27909725 - 08/19/22 02:14 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: bakedbeings] * 2
    #27909738 - 08/19/22 02:25 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

The best part about learning cultivation is going from checking every jar for every centimeter of growth (I think everyone has this phase) to saying "omg harvest time again, where am I going to put all these guys??" 😄

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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: high_desert]
    #27909825 - 08/19/22 03:09 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting... this isnt a typical tek for newbies to use. Congrats on the uniqueness lol. Everythings looking good so far, keep it up.

Good luck and welcome to shroomery

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The best part about learning cultivation is going from checking every jar for every centimeter of growth (I think everyone has this phase) to saying "omg harvest time again, where am I going to put all these guys??" 😄




Yea we all go throu that phase haha, everything becomes normal with exposure and time


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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: summerjoy]
    #27909886 - 08/19/22 04:04 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Looks good! I just started using Muda’s bottle tek this week too, I look forward to see more updates from y’all


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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: high_desert]
    #27910299 - 08/19/22 08:38 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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where am I going to put all these guys??" 😄




This.  And, "Damn, I am going to have to throw all this away."


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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: PrestoPesto]
    #27911265 - 08/20/22 12:54 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks, everyone!!

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The best part about learning cultivation is going from checking every jar for every centimeter of growth (I think everyone has this phase) to saying "omg harvest time again, where am I going to put all these guys??" 😄



I can imagine! We wanted to be extra detailed documenting everything with this one since it's our first grow :laugh: but probably will chill out for subsequent ones, haha


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Interesting... this isnt a typical tek for newbies to use. Congrats on the uniqueness lol. Everythings looking good so far, keep it up.

Good luck and welcome to shroomery



Thank you! Yeah, we were considering PF tek but felt drawn to bottles and rye :laugh: We've wanted to grow for years and finally have the space and money to do it, so I guess we don't feel like 100% newbies... only newbies in practice--which... still makes us newbies lmao


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Looks good! I just started using Muda’s bottle tek this week too, I look forward to see more updates from y’all



Oh, cool! Good luck! We'll definitely update as much as we can with as many pics as possible! :cool:

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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: summerjoy]
    #27922758 - 08/28/22 03:42 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Hi again, everyone! Thought I'd update with a few more pics. Everything's looking good, we think! For fun, we've been tracing a few of the bottles' growth :laugh: We're wondering when/if we should shake them? At 30%? (And what's the best way to estimate that?) Or should we just leave them be? :confused: I've read a lot of different things. Thanks in advance for any advice!


All the bottles!


One of the Golden Teachers :smile:


Traced B+ and (2nd and 3rd pics) another B+


One of the Oak Ridges

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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: summerjoy]
    #27922792 - 08/28/22 04:05 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I'm pretty certain with muda bottles you don't shake since it's already mixed with the substrate. If you have just grain jars that are colonizing then you would wanna shake them now but you don't need to worry about that.

This was wrong so ignore it. The next is still true though.

The rhizo growth on some of those is looking great! You'll be getting fruits in no time.

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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: summerjoy] * 1
    #27922811 - 08/28/22 04:22 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Interesting... this isnt a typical tek for newbies to use. Congrats on the uniqueness lol. Everythings looking good so far, keep it up.

Good luck and welcome to shroomery

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The best part about learning cultivation is going from checking every jar for every centimeter of growth (I think everyone has this phase) to saying "omg harvest time again, where am I going to put all these guys??" 😄




Yea we all go throu that phase haha, everything becomes normal with exposure and time



It was what I used for my first grow and I've never stopped.
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Hi again, everyone! Thought I'd update with a few more pics. Everything's looking good, we think! For fun, we've been tracing a few of the bottles' growth :laugh: We're wondering when/if we should shake them? At 30%? (And what's the best way to estimate that?) Or should we just leave them be? :confused: I've read a lot of different things. Thanks in advance for any advice!


All the bottles!


One of the Golden Teachers :smile:


Traced B+ and (2nd and 3rd pics) another B+


One of the Oak Ridges



I like to shake my Muda bottles and the recipe I use is also just rye coir and verm. Yours look ready to shake


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    #27922857 - 08/28/22 04:52 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Ignore my statement and listen to this fellow then, they've got way more experience then I do with bottles!

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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: WyoMX]
    #27922910 - 08/28/22 05:27 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Ignore my statement and listen to this fellow then, they've got way more experience then I do with bottles!



You're right though, Muda did state he didn't shake his bottles.

Thing is Muda also used up to 15cc of LC per jar... That's a lot of inoculation points. His recipes also yield a pretty solid PF style cake that doesn't shake. The bran in particular makes things really sticky.

Just grain, coir and verm shakes pretty well though and it helps spread things around just like in regular grain jars. If you used 15cc of LC per quart of grain you wouldn't have to shake that shit either, it'd ready in 5 days just like Muda's bottles in the write up


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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: WyoMX]
    #27923275 - 08/28/22 10:29 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Ignore my statement and listen to this fellow then, they've got way more experience then I do with bottles!



You're right though, Muda did state he didn't shake his bottles.

Thing is Muda also used up to 15cc of LC per jar... That's a lot of inoculation points. His recipes also yield a pretty solid PF style cake that doesn't shake. The bran in particular makes things really sticky.

Just grain, coir and verm shakes pretty well though and it helps spread things around just like in regular grain jars. If you used 15cc of LC per quart of grain you wouldn't have to shake that shit either, it'd ready in 5 days just like Muda's bottles in the write up




Thank you both for weighing in! That all totally makes sense! We put about 2cc in each--so nowhere near 15, haha :laugh: (and with MSS, not LC or LI) But your go-ahead makes me feel a lot more confident about giving 'em a shake!


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The rhizo growth on some of those is looking great! You'll be getting fruits in no time.




Thanks! Right?! :crazy2: I'm kinda sad to break it all up, haha!


I'll inevitably take some pictures after shaking tomorrow and will update again within the next few days! Thanks again, everyone! :heart:

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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: summerjoy]
    #27923646 - 08/29/22 07:59 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Wow I’m amazed you got such fantastic rhizo growth from MSS :shocked:

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    #27924945 - 08/29/22 10:32 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Wow I’m amazed you got such fantastic rhizo growth from MSS :shocked:

VERY JEALOUS!




Right?! We're surprised, too, haha! :blush: I did try to do my research when sourcing everything, and we tried to pick "easier to grow"/"beginner" varieties. Plus, we're definitely being very intentional about everything and trying to infuse love with every action, if that makes any difference--but maybe we just got lucky, too! :wink::heart::mushroom2:

08/29 UPDATE: We shook 10 of the 14 bottles! We're doing a bit of an experiment with the other four--going to continue tracking their growth every 24 hours for at least a little while longer.



Here are some bonus pics! A few close-ups of a couple of the bottles we're "tracing" and a few "before" pics of bottles we shook!


(Left: Oak Ridge; the other two are Golden Teachers.)


(Left: B+; Right: Golden Teacher)


("Macro" shots of Golden Teacher! :crazy2:)

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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: summerjoy]
    #27925258 - 08/30/22 04:44 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

How did you find shaking them? Did you have a hard time breaking up the clumps?


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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: summerjoy]
    #27925290 - 08/30/22 05:36 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

:goodluck:

Also that is some beautiful growth

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    #27925596 - 08/30/22 10:28 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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How did you find shaking them? Did you have a hard time breaking up the clumps?




Most of them were fairly easy to get distributed, but we didn't expect we'd have to shake them so hard, haha! The Golden Teachers were a bit easier because they had a little less growth; a couple of the B+s were tougher because they were probably closer to 50% colonized. I knew myc grows in all directions, but it was cool to see exactly how much of each bottle was "tied up" already! :laugh:


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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: summerjoy]
    #27926282 - 08/30/22 05:42 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Hi again! I thought I wouldn't be updating for at least a couple of days, but we're already seeing more growth in the shaken bottles (especially the couple that ended up with a chunk left on top)! :shocked: Isn't the myc supposed to go dormant for a bit after shaking?

I'll update again when we have significant growth, but I just thought it was really cool we're starting to see changes already!


(B+) First pic is yesterday, post-shake; the next two are shots from today.


(Golden Teacher) First pic is yesterday, post-shake; the next two are shots from today.


(Golden Teacher) First pic is yesterday, post-shake; the next is from today.

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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: summerjoy]
    #27926370 - 08/30/22 07:08 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, you should see recovery within 24 hours. You're right on track. Should have a solid idea of how well you spread everything around by tomorrow


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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: SirPsycho] * 1
    #27930548 - 09/02/22 12:20 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

09/02 UPDATE:

Ah! Sorry for the delay. I took videos of each bottle on Wednesday and then never got the time to post them! I think everything's looking good :smile: Probably a noob reaction, but we were so surprised how fast they recover after being shaken! :grin: We decided to shake two more of the bottles, so a couple are 48hrs-ish behind the others. (And there are two left that we're not shaking just to see the difference :laugh:)

The pics below are from today. Seems like the Oak Ridges are the fastest, followed by the Golden Teachers, and the B+s are the slowest.


Golden Teachers  /  Oak Ridges  /  B+s  (All 4 days post-shake)


These are the two we shook on Wednesday, so they are a bit behind the others. (2 days post-shake)


The two left unshaken!

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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: summerjoy]
    #27935786 - 09/05/22 05:18 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

9/5 UPDATE: Most bottles are looking fine, but we noticed yellow-colored condensation in one of the Oak Ridge bottles. Are we being paranoid or is this bad? :blush: Thanks in advance for any insight!


The larger "pocket"


There are a couple of smaller drops in different spots around the bottle...

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    #27935791 - 09/05/22 05:21 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Just some metabolites. Might have a very light bacterial infection but the myc looks really good.


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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: SirPsycho]
    #27936199 - 09/05/22 09:12 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Just some metabolites. Might have a very light bacterial infection but the myc looks really good.




Awesome; thank you! :thumbup: We're excited to get 'em fruiting soon!

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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: summerjoy]
    #27937044 - 09/06/22 11:12 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Woke up today and now most bottles have a couple drops of metabolites. :crazy: I'm wondering maybe it's a bit too warm in there? I think it's been sticking around 80 to 81 F... It was almost 82 when I checked today, so I've left the door open to hopefully cool it down a little.

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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: summerjoy]
    #27937059 - 09/06/22 11:20 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

when u inoc with spores bacteria is just something you gotta expect. cooling it down a lil might help tho. ive had subs that were almost completely yellow give me decent flushes so dont worry. definitely get ready to clone some fruits on agar tho, thats the kewlest experience imo


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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: bakedbeings]
    #27937354 - 09/06/22 02:40 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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when u inoc with spores bacteria is just something you gotta expect. cooling it down a lil might help tho. ive had subs that were almost completely yellow give me decent flushes so dont worry. definitely get ready to clone some fruits on agar tho, thats the kewlest experience imo




Thank you! Yes, that makes sense. We are super excited to dig into agar! :grin: We were debating whether we should start with it but wanted to see if we could grow anything first, haha.

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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: bakedbeings]
    #27937375 - 09/06/22 02:52 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Agar is the tits, you feel like a scientist with a plastic box in your bedroom.


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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: HappinessStan]
    #27937470 - 09/06/22 04:26 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

cloning tissue on agar is much easier than starting from germ plates and it teaches you what good growth looks like so there are advantages to starting when you already have fruits


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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: bakedbeings]
    #27945906 - 09/11/22 07:37 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Hi again, everyone! Sorry for the lack of updates recently. I've been taking pictures as we've been doing things, though.

09/07 (Last Wednesday):



It might have been a little early, but we decided to case two jars and start fruiting them. We put our SAB under the monotub so the light is (hopefully) close enough!




09/10 (Yesterday):

We saw the first changes yesterday--just a little colonization of the verm?




Today, we decided to case the rest of them!



Most everything looked good, except four bottles had blue spots? Is this just bruising or should we throw these away? :blush:


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    #27945939 - 09/11/22 08:00 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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    #27951180 - 09/15/22 11:19 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

09/15 UPDATE:

We did decide to case the rest on Sunday! So the middle two bottles (raised a bit) were cased on the 7th (day 8 today) and the other 12 were cased on the 11th (day 4 today). We think they're looking alright? :blush: Maybe a little slow, but they might not have been totally consolidated yet...


(Sunday)


From left to right: Monday, Tuesday, and this morning (I forgot to take a picture yesterday :crazy:)

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    #27951319 - 09/15/22 12:32 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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    #27951457 - 09/15/22 01:56 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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    #27951511 - 09/15/22 02:30 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Looking good! Also thanks for continuing to update us. Tons of people come in ask for help then we never see them again (nothing wrong with that btw) so I enjoy seeing newer folks come in and post updates.

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    #27952006 - 09/15/22 08:18 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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LOL! Love Tim and Eric 😂


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Aw, haha! Thank you! :heart:


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Looking good! Also thanks for continuing to update us. Tons of people come in ask for help then we never see them again (nothing wrong with that btw) so I enjoy seeing newer folks come in and post updates.




Thank you! Haha, totally! Expect updates from us through at least the first few flushes! 🤓

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    #27954423 - 09/17/22 11:22 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Hi, everyone! Just wanted to post what the tub is looking like this morning 😎 (plus a close-up of the bottle that's most grown (one of the B+s)

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    #27954424 - 09/17/22 11:22 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Those surface conditions look perfect

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    #27954474 - 09/17/22 11:56 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Those surface conditions look perfect

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Oh, awesome! Thank you!! Your input always helps relieve our newbie doubt, haha :laugh:

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    #27957622 - 09/19/22 03:53 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

9/19 UPDATE:

Hi, all! We noticed today our temp/humidity gauge was broken, so we put a new one in. Worried now that we haven't had as high of humidity as we thought (~95%) as the new one reads 91%! Any tips for raising that would be appreciated -- we don't have perlite but maybe some coir or verm at the bottom would help? 🥴

On the exciting side of things, we believe we have spotted our first pin!! (Circled below, haha) Woo!


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    #27957774 - 09/19/22 05:25 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Mazel tov!!!

91%RH is more than enough. RH doesn't really matter anyway. Surface conditions is what it's all about


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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: SirPsycho]
    #27958250 - 09/19/22 09:42 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

There is no need to modify lids when using ziploc twist. You just unscrew lids for 3/4 of an inch during PC.

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    #27958378 - 09/19/22 11:48 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Mazel tov!!!

91%RH is more than enough. RH doesn't really matter anyway. Surface conditions is what it's all about




Cool, thank you! There's already a couple more pins! 🥳 Can't wait to start posting pics of our flushes 🤓


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There is no need to modify lids when using ziploc twist. You just unscrew lids for 3/4 of an inch during PC. ...




True! Since this was our first time, we got overloaded with info and had trouble deciding what to do and what not to do 😂

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    #27962323 - 09/22/22 11:23 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

09/22 UPDATE:

Hi, everyone! We have a few pins!! The B+ in the middle was the first to show any pins, but the Oak Ridge next to it has taken off! I think there are 10 to 12 pins in the Oak Ridge and 4 or 5 in the B+. No signs on the others yet, but they are about four days behind the two that have pins now. We've been worried about enough FAE but are probably prematurely worrying, haha.



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    #27962335 - 09/22/22 11:36 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I am really enjoying this journal!!! Best of luck on the yield and I have been cheering for ya!


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    #27962778 - 09/22/22 04:14 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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    #27962820 - 09/22/22 04:50 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

This gets me all inspired to grow a few more myself.... its been a while...


well done on your first grow too!! :thumbup:

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    #27962843 - 09/22/22 05:07 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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    #27962867 - 09/22/22 05:24 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you so much, everyone!! We are super grateful to be able to learn from, share with, and hopefully contribute to this awesome community! :mushroom2:

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    #27964709 - 09/23/22 05:15 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

09/23 UPDATE:

So, we feel very silly as we thought everything might be stalling, and then realized today that we haven't been looking at the sides of the bottles! There are TONS of side pins on each one we can see! This is normal, right? They'll eventually push through up to the top? 🤔


All bottles this morning, and side pins of B+, then the other two are Golden Teacher :smile:

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Re: Our First Grow Journal - Jumping in with Bottle Tek! [Re: summerjoy]
    #27964727 - 09/23/22 05:23 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

My bet is that most of those pins abort when they are still very tiny and give way to surface pins.


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    #27965265 - 09/23/22 10:46 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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My bet is that most of those pins abort when they are still very tiny and give way to surface pins.




Yeah, that makes sense... So our surface conditions should still be alright? 😬 We thought they were maybe too wet; now I'm hoping they aren't too dry 😂

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    #27965285 - 09/23/22 11:17 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

well if they sidepin you can always pop em out and fruit em like cakes


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    #27965377 - 09/24/22 01:34 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I just finished reading most of the bottle tek and caught this.

Going to follow along.

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    #27965562 - 09/24/22 06:14 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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My bet is that most of those pins abort when they are still very tiny and give way to surface pins.




Yeah, that makes sense... So our surface conditions should still be alright? 😬 We thought they were maybe too wet; now I'm hoping they aren't too dry 😂



I can still see plenty of tiny water droplets on the surface. Pretty sure you're good.

FAE could be slightly higher though. Maybe remove the bottom strip of tape off a couple of holes


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    #27965877 - 09/24/22 11:09 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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well if they sidepin you can always pop em out and fruit em like cakes




My husband suggested that, haha! We don't have perlite... And our tub is technically a monotub, not a SGFC. 😕 So we'd have to switch a lot stuff around!


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I just finished reading most of the bottle tek and caught this.

Going to follow along.




Noice! 😋


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I can still see plenty of tiny water droplets on the surface. Pretty sure you're good.

FAE could be slightly higher though. Maybe remove the bottom strip of tape off a couple of holes




👍 Thank you! We noticed a lot of the myc is starting to bruise, too, so we cracked the lid and ran a fan in the room (not directly on them) for a while yesterday. And I took off the bottom strips of tape from two of the holes this morning (after I took the photo below)!


1) All the bottles this morning; 2) the Oak Ridge with all the pins! Not too worried about this one ☺️; 3) the B+ with a few pins (now 6, I think); 4) another B+ with its first pin!; 5) possible bruising, we think 🤔 it's hard to see in the photo...

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    #27972182 - 09/28/22 12:34 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

09/28/22 UPDATE:

Nothing too crazy going on, but ten out of the 14 bottles have at least one top pin now! Woo!


All bottles, then two Oak Ridges, two Golden Teachers, and four B+s.

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    #27972295 - 09/28/22 01:43 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

:howyoudoing:


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    #27972300 - 09/28/22 01:47 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

That's awesome.
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I'm really thinking about switching to bottle tek, to minimize my grow space. Very cool.


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    #27975502 - 09/30/22 03:47 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you!!

Just wanted to post a few of our biggest right now! :crazy2:


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    #27977899 - 10/02/22 11:15 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

10/02/22 UPDATE:

Hi, everyone! Things are chugging along. A couple of the Oak Ridge bottles are producing a few fatties! There are still four bottles without top pins--I noticed those (mostly GTs) also have gigantic side pins--is this normal? 🤔 I worry that they're not liking the surface conditions so everything's trying to grow on the sides 😬


1) All bottles this morning before the first mist; 2) our largest pins (all Oak Ridge); 3/4) two of the Golden Teacher bottles with no top pins but massive side pins (sorry for the lower-quality--shooting through the tub)

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    #27977912 - 10/02/22 11:27 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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well if they sidepin you can always pop em out and fruit em like cakes







We want to! But we only have one light and one fruiting tub... Would we have to add perlite to the bottom? Would "cakes" and bottles both be okay growing together in the same tub? 🤔

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    #27978171 - 10/02/22 03:03 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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:whathesaid:
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yep just set it on that bottles lid



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😂 Awesome! Thank you both for the encouragement! We decided: Why not expand? We'll have perlite and another tub (and another light for good measure) by tomorrow! :grin: (We also got a Presto dehydrator!)

So, we're going to make it an SGFC and pop out the four that don't have top pins to fruit as cakes in there. Should we treat them just like PF Tek? 🤔

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    #27978374 - 10/02/22 05:18 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, they work exactly like pf tek. You can fruit them any way you can fruit pf tek


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Yes, they work exactly like pf tek. You can fruit them any way you can fruit pf tek




Perfect, thank you! I realized, since there are so many pins already, we probably don't have to worry about rinsing them or rolling them in verm 😂 We're excited to get it all set up and will definitely be posting some pics tomorrow!

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    #27978596 - 10/02/22 07:47 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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So, we're going to make it an SGFC



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    #27978668 - 10/02/22 08:39 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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plz dont. humidity chamber or water tub




Oh, okay... I wasn't aware of these! So, an unmodified tub with coco coir in the bottom instead? 🤔

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    #27979079 - 10/03/22 07:07 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

you just need something wet on the bottom. you can use the perlite you already have


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    #27980063 - 10/03/22 07:27 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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you just need something wet on the bottom. you can use the perlite you already have




Okay, yeah! After some research last night, we decided to go for coir (and had it anyway because it's in the substrate :smile:).



BIG update today! We pulled six out to fruit as cakes! We have them in our newly-made humidity chamber... They're already looking a bit dry on the surface. Do we mist them directly? :confused:


1) Out new setup; 2/3) Cakes from the outside and inside; the back three are Golden Teachers, the front are two Oak Ridges and a B+; 4) the remaining bottles

We harvested the few pins that were on the tops (now bottoms) of the ones we flipped into cakes. We also had the first veil break on one in one of the Oak Ridge bottles! So we harvested that, as well :smile: They are all currently dehydrating in our new dehydrator! :crazy2:


1) All the pins, a mix of all three varieties; 2) the only side pin we harvested from the sides of one of the cakes because it was already so big (Golden Teacher); 3/4) Our first broken veil! 2.8g wet :smile: / Good shot of the gills! (Oak Ridge)

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    #27980123 - 10/03/22 08:00 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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They're already looking a bit dry on the surface. Do we mist them directly?



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    #27981282 - 10/04/22 02:09 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

10/04/22 UPDATE:

Everything's looking about the same today. We're wondering about all the side pins on the cakes (that have been smushed in the bottles until yesterday)... Should we give them time to grow out? Or should we harvest them and dunk the cakes, to kinda restart them for a second flush? 🤔 We're thinking that might be best because they seem to dry out quickly right now.

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    #27983190 - 10/05/22 05:21 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

10/05/22 UPDATE:

We noticed some bruising at the bottom of the cakes, so we bottom-watered them yesterday and they've started to perk up more.



Because we haven't seen a ton going on with our bottles (and worried about them being too dry), we harvested the biggest fruits and then made another humidity chamber (although not truly one as the tub is modded) and pulled them out to fruit like cakes, as well! We didn't flip these upside-down, as they still had some top pins that we wanted to give a chance to grow. We also decided not to rinse off the verm first, but maybe we should have? :confused: We made a mess, haha...


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    #27983347 - 10/05/22 06:39 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

everything looks great. chin up!


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    #27983470 - 10/05/22 07:49 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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everything looks great. chin up!




Well, thank you!! ☺️ Newbie panic, I suppose!

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    #27988152 - 10/08/22 12:34 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

10/08/22 UPDATE:

Hi, everyone! Been super busy with work/school, but I've been taking pictures! The first six cakes are doing really well! We've harvested a modest amount already :laugh: Here's Thursday, Friday, and today:




1/2) Middle Golden Teacher, Thursday and yesterday; 3) Left Golden Teacher yesterday

This morning's harvest (wet weights; everything is currently in the dehydrator)

B+, Oak Ridge, Golden Teacher (biggins' & pins)

I've been taking pictures of each wet weight and dry weight, but I haven't done the overall calculations yet. I think we've harvested somewhere between 7 and 14 grams dry so far!

The other eight cakes are a couple of days behind the first six, but they are starting to grow a bit more. I also tried to clean them up a bit--took some extra verm out and tried to harvest all of the obvious aborts.


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    #27988196 - 10/08/22 12:59 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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thatll do it

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    #27988569 - 10/08/22 03:47 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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thatll do it

:busytripping:





😂 Right?! We actually weighed everything a minute ago and we have 17.7g dry with a couple others still in the dehydrator! I actually took our first gram of pins last Monday 🤯 just a gram, but it was way stronger than I expected!

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    #27988588 - 10/08/22 03:55 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

when you eat your own you realize how old and badly stored the shrooms you bought were. the potency really drops off


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    #28001697 - 10/16/22 11:47 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

10/16 UPDATE:

Hi again, everyone! All cakes are officially on their second flush :smile: We dunked the first five on the 10th, the next eight on the 11th, and the last (we had a slow OR and wanted to give it a chance to fully flush) yesterday. I've been taking pictures of the tubs almost every day--almost as good as a time-lapse camera. :laugh: Boy, do I wish we could install cameras in the tubs! Haha

These are from the 9th, 11th, 12th, 14th, yesterday, and today!






They're going for it on this second flush!



Finally, this is a bit random, but I started needle felting! And, of course, my first projects involved fungi... :mushroom2:



Amanita muscaria and psilocybe cubensis (modeled from one of our Golden Teachers, actually! :heart:)

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    #28001938 - 10/16/22 03:22 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Hell yeah! :cheers:
Those felts are awesome!!
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    #28001969 - 10/16/22 03:39 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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    #28002492 - 10/16/22 11:24 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Thank you!! I also used to make clay miniatures and played around with making some mushies :laugh:


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Wow, those are cool yo! 🍄


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    #28002784 - 10/17/22 08:08 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

:creepylurker:

I'm still here too. Enjoying the fruit, real and felted


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    #28021207 - 10/28/22 11:45 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Hi again, everyone! (It's been a minute, but thank you, cozmyc and SirPsycho! :heart:)

The cakes are still going strong, though we're now approaching fourth flushes, so (about 10 days ago) we inoculated some more bottles! (We used up what we had left of our MSSs for them, but plan to do agar from now on since we made our first 24 plates, as well!)


1/2) Our six cake tub on 10/16 and 10/26; 3) Our eight cake tub on 10/20; 4) Our first babe to weigh over 20g wet! (Golden Teacher :smile:)

We also moved out of the closet and have this new setup! From the top to bottom: (red arrow) Extra grain/substrate ingredients, supplies like gloves and MP tape, pressure cookers, etc.; (orange arrow) Agar plates (woo!), colonizing bottles, and harvest jars; (yellow arrow) Dehydrating station; (green arrow) tub/SAB storage right now, but we installed our second light there and will have more fruiting tubs going soon; (blue arrow) Our currently fruiting tubs!


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