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Re: Let's talk about Water Agar!! 💧 [Re: Baba Yaga]
#27901468 - 08/12/22 11:08 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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So would you use this all the time or only when you need to clean up a culture?
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Re: Let's talk about Water Agar!! 💧 [Re: Awestruck] 1
#27902330 - 08/13/22 07:07 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks Rotn.
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Re: Let's talk about Water Agar!! 💧 [Re: Rotnpins]
#27917338 - 08/24/22 09:40 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Rotnpins said: I found an interesting video for you guys..
He talks about a couple of the applications for water agar that I hadn't mentioned..
Check it out and let me know what you think..
So I haven't finished the video yet but I had to come back here to ask is agar really pronounced auger? I've always said it like A garr. Or some like that.
Edit: I also noticed he said more nutritious agar gives fast vigorous growth I know the opposite to be true what gives?
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Re: Let's talk about Water Agar!! 💧 [Re: Rotnpins] 1
#27917361 - 08/24/22 09:51 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Rotnpins said: We had a discussion the other day about all the different myco words that are commonly pronounced different ways:
Albino, Psilocybe, Agar, Cubensis, etc..
I personally pronounce it the same way you do, but there seems to be a lot of variation when it comes to some common terms used in mycology 
Yea I remember the Convo I got in on the discussion a little. This is just the first time I think I've ever heard agar pronounced by someone other than myself so it blew my mind lol. Homeboy that runs the local Asian market just calls it jello. Cracks me up... On the inside... A little... I guess...
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Re: Let's talk about Water Agar!! 💧 [Re: Rotnpins]
#27917374 - 08/24/22 10:01 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Grind365 said:
Edit: I also noticed he said more nutritious agar gives fast vigorous growth I know the opposite to be true what gives?
In comparison to water agar, it's definitely a lot quicker and more vigorous. However this works to out advantage because it still moves faster than contamination.
Huh this gives me something to think about. I always heard that mycelium grows much quicker in a lower nutrition environment because it is "searching" for nutrients. I am actually experimenting with dilution levels of GWA or GSA right now but to no extreme. I did 150ml grain water into 250ml total volume, 200ml and 250ml so full strength grain water. So all pretty close all in all for this run but plan to experiment alot more with it. Maybe I'll also try boiling the grain soak water down to a smaller volume to pack more nutrients into it and see what happens.
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Re: Let's talk about Water Agar!! 💧 [Re: Rotnpins] 1
#27917383 - 08/24/22 10:09 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Rotnpins said: I heard the same thing.. but after observing a couple batches of water agar plates growing side by side with MYA plates, the water agar is MUCH slower.. I have plates I inoculated 2 weeks ago that still haven't reached the outer edges of the plates.. my MYA plates from the same time are fully colonized.. I can update the OP with some comparison pictures tomorrow
That would be super dope to see comparison picks.
I believe that there is also probably a big difference between no nutrition and low nutrition but without testing it for myself that's just a theory. If I had to guess though I'd say low nutrition probably moves faster than with no nutrition and high nutrition plates also cause the mycelium to move slowly. Just a complete theory though no proof. Maybe in low nutrition mycelium has the energy to move in search of more nutrition and and no nutrition the mycelium just has to do the best it can to move
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Re: Let's talk about Water Agar!! 💧 [Re: zilker] 1
#27917462 - 08/24/22 11:53 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Rotnpins: I really liked how he used it to get a sample straight from some substrate.. I don't think I would have thought of doing that.
Whaaaaat??? Don't tell me I thought about something before you did, amigo? C'mon Rotn, that's gotta be worth a rating for this newbie, eh?!? Also, transferring from one water to another can be tricky because it wants to stick the blade. I had a really hard time with one of them and ended up slicing into the agar, touching the bottom. That fucker has equal growth on the top AND bottom of the plate all the way to the edge (it grows REALLY fast on water...need to transfer much sooner than you do a nute plate). I can't get a good picture of it, but it's pretty damn cool looking.

Not sure why, but I've noticed my plates tend to condensate at night...I guess that has something to do with metabolic growth versus resting stages?? When I pulled these out for a look-see a few hours ago, no condensation. Tonight isn't the first time I've noticed. Neither here nor there, I suppose.
This guy also has some very informative info https://www.youtube.com/c/SouthwestMushrooms. He's all gourmet, but a lot of the general knowledge is universal. I actually have about 60/40 gourmet/cube at the moment. Only way I can grow cubes with family interaction...my 11yr old loves this shit as much as I do. I only grow 1 tub of cubes at a time and tell her they're backyard finds that I'm growing for practice, and don't EVER eat them b/c they're toxic (not necessarily a lie, so don't judge me!!!).
These are transfers from cakes; Warm Button and Shiitake...getting transferred to another water agar tomorrow before going to nutrient.
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HILLBILLY OUTLAWS: Before I first actually got started I bought and read like 5 different books on the subject and watched prob every you tube vid there is. Took it all in and filtered out what I thought either logically wouldn’t work and focused on what actually made sense. Didn’t find shroomery until right after my first grow was over. Would have been much easier if I stumbled upon this place about 9 months ago. Lol
Similar story here...I thought mushrooms grew in shit, so they had to be easy...had 4 grows gone bad before I registered. 
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Grind365: So I haven't finished the video yet but I had to come back here to ask is agar really pronounced auger? Edit: I also noticed he said more nutritious agar gives fast vigorous growth I know the opposite to be true what gives?
In TX, auger is an attachment to a tractor used to dig holes for fence posts and planting young trees. This dude's pronunciation of agg-ARE was like nails on a fucking chalkboard to me.
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san pedro guy: agg-R is how i say it in my head, never said it outloud 
Close, but you're missing the TX draw...agg-ARE 
Yes that's what it reminded me of everytime he said auger I was expecting to hear bit after it lmfao. I actually grew up in Amarillo so I guess Texas is a second home to me.
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