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Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt
#27899281 - 08/11/22 05:24 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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If you think people are stupid who eat Halal.... its like youre mocking islam.
But if you think people are stupid who eat Kosher.... people dont tend to think youre hating on jews.
But in other circumstances its easier to seem anti-semetic than anti-muslim or anti-christian.
If I went around saying "I dont like people with X religion." even if I was indiscriminate and just said whichever religion was around me.... some religions would assume I'm mocking a group of people. And others would assume I just hate religion.
I dunno. Been thinking about Halal the last few weeks. I think its fucking stupid. Its not a good way for an animal to die. Pork isnt "unclean". And it just seems like it was made as a marketing gimick to make people buy from muslims thousands of years ago instead of other religions.
The face a muslim makes when you talk about pork is insane. A thing theyve never had before. And they just make this disgusted face as if the animal is disgusting or something lol.
From what I've seen all the halal restaurants are pretty god damn unclean compared to other places. Anecdotal of course. But still.
I havent fucked around with kosher. But I dont know any jews. I've literally never met a jew.
I dunno. I hate all religion. And all the stupid non-logical shit they fucking do.
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Anonymous #2
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #1] 2
#27899291 - 08/11/22 05:29 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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And it just seems like it was made as a marketing gimick to make people buy from muslims thousands of years ago instead of other religions.
It was probably more analogous to buying USDA beef. They were like consumer protections.
Pork isn't categorically unclean, but it is a bit trickier to raise and process cleanly, and more harmful if done improperly. Halal and Kosher laws are at their core food safety laws.
Islamic leaders of the time probably just figured that eating pork wasn't worth the trouble of trichinosis(which they did not really understand)...and fueled by their ignorant perceptions of the animals cleanliness. It was just easier and safer to declare the animal haram and be done with it.
You gotta remember that for most of human history religious institutions filled the role of the administrative state, and the hardcore anti-intellectual bend of organized religion is relatively contemporary...most of the time they were the scholars and the scientists.
If there is a reason not to eat pork it is because pigs are intelligent(smarter than dogs) and likely sentient organisms. They are both cognitively and emotionally complex and display unique personality traits.
Edited by Anonymous (08/11/22 05:49 PM)
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Anonymous #3
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #2] 1
#27899341 - 08/11/22 05:59 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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If I'm white but my dick is black and i beat my black dick,does that make me a racist??
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Anonymous #4
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #1]
#27899374 - 08/11/22 06:19 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Anonymous #1 said: Pork isnt "unclean". And it just seems like it was made as a marketing gimick to make people buy from muslims thousands of years ago instead of other religions.
Farm raised pork is not a problem. Have you ever been around free roaming pigs? They will eat human feces like if it was a delicacy. They can't have enough of that shit (pun intended).
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Anonymous #5
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #4]
#27900020 - 08/12/22 04:31 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Halal is a means of slaughtering animals more humanely and hygienically than was customary at the time, anbd this in the name 0f the God of Gods.
nothing bad about that.
Its like the bible advising on a more ethical way to do slavery.
At the time, that was the practice, so here is advice to do it better.
The goal is a vegetarian socuiety without sklaves, but you couldnt tell peopole at the time that.
Religion is incremental.
first Torah then Bible then Qu'ran
the Qu'ran is outspoken against slavery (viz Bilal) because between the two books, humanity had evolved enough to object openly against slavery.
Nowadays God is all about abolition of sin and damnation and is about direct contact with the Godhead if Omnicyclion is to be believed
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Anonymous #6
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #5]
#27922605 - 08/28/22 01:46 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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OP, you probably have met a Jew, you just didn’t know it at the time. They kind of slip by unnoticed. They are almost like Free Masons to me. They wear funny little hats while they control the world, LOL. I’ve been working in a hospital for 22 years. I’ve probably had many Jewish patients, but I only know of two for sure. One of the told me he was Jewish, the other one was described to me as “A mean Jew”. The entire Jewish thing is a mystery to me, just like leprechauns and fairies.
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Anonymous #7
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #6]
#27923321 - 08/28/22 11:10 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Is it racist if you don't like Jews or is it just honest? Like if I don't like potato chips is that racist? If I go around insulting anybody to eat potato chips that's racist but if I just don't like potato chips is that racist?
Like I don't believe a culture should revolve around money. It's all I'm saying
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Anonymous #5
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #7]
#27924464 - 08/29/22 05:13 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous #7 said: Is it racist if you don't like Jews or is it just honest?
Of course its racist. if its "honest" you are honestly racist.
How can you not like an ethnic group in general? Do you ascribe certain personality traits to them? That is what racism is, generalizing an ethnicity based on basically stereotypes.
If you dont like cats you're not a cat person.
if you don't like Jews you're a racist person.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #5]
#27925018 - 08/29/22 11:29 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous #7 said: Is it racist if you don't like Jews or is it just honest?
Of course its racist. if its "honest" you are honestly racist.
How can you not like an ethnic group in general? Do you ascribe certain personality traits to them? That is what racism is, generalizing an ethnicity based on basically stereotypes.
If you dont like cats you're not a cat person.
if you don't like Jews you're a racist person.

What about assuming an Arab person is Muslim? Or an Indian is Hindu? Or at the bare minimum they would understand a significant amount about the religions that others might not?
At what point can we generalize that is "ok"?
Why is generalizing bad? Isnt it necessary in our language? Isnt our language so limited that we cant speak in such specifics that accurately assess our surroundings down to the micron? Or anywhere near a micron lol.
Granted the reply youre talking about is definitely racist. Lol. "Is it racist if you dont like jews"
But I mean there could be a legit argument to hating a religion that treats women very poorly. But maybe thats just variance of culture. I dunno.
Maybe women SHOULD be treated like second class citizens. And the woke brigade has made us all shift slightly away from treating them like that. And we just THINK muslim culture of keeping them hidden is bad.
But I guess probably there is no bad. There is no good.
I dunno.
I dont think there is a hall of people. I dont think there is an agreed upon truth. I think we just wander around rambling to each other in the void. Sometimes youre in a group that mostly agrees with abortion. Sometimes youre in a group that mostly disagrees. Sometimes youre in a group that likes racism. Sometimes they dont.
We just perceive each instance as some overall proof of some grand idea that really is just the manifestation of all our previous interactions.
Probably best to just not care. Just build a house by a lake. Raise a family. Dig holes and play with rocks and trees. Make some kind of..... cool slide thing. Down the side of a hill nearby. And wait for the days that it snows so you can go out there with the kids and the dogs and slide down it. In and out of the trees. All your hard work paying off in this epic 120 second barrage of sled excitement. Then climb up the hill and do it again and again. Until next year.
Take me away.
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Anonymous #8
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #3]
#27925092 - 08/30/22 12:59 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous #3 said: If I'm white but my dick is black and i beat my black dick,does that make me a racist??
only if you enjoy it
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Anonymous #9
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #8]
#27925118 - 08/30/22 01:15 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous #3 said: If I'm white but my dick is black and i beat my black dick,does that make me a racist??
only if you enjoy it
Only if someone gets it on camera.
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Anonymous #5
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #8]
#27925286 - 08/30/22 05:26 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous #8 said:
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Anonymous #3 said: If I'm white but my dick is black and i beat my black dick,does that make me a racist??
only if you enjoy it
What if your dick enjoys it and despite it being awkward you go along with it and do it because he's, well, your dick and you're very fond of him?
Asking for a friend.
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Anonymous #10
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #1]
#27925820 - 08/30/22 01:07 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous #1, sounds like your hatred for Muslims is hindering your ability to reason and do the research. Kosher butchery sounds worse than halal. And if you’re a carnivore, bitching about the humanity behind meat is a laugh.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/may/08/what-does-halal-method-animal-slaughter-involve
What exactly does the halal method of animal slaughter involve?
Contrary to what many assume, an estimated 88% of animals killed by halal methods in Britain are stunned before slaughter
By James Meikle
The debate over when meat is halal and whether it should be clearly labelled has been put back on the agenda by vets and animal welfare campaigners who want all animals slaughtered for food to be stunned before killing.
The Arabic word halal means permissible, and the rules of slaughter are based on Islamic law. The animal has to be alive and healthy, a Muslim has to perform the slaughter in the appropriate ritual manner, and the animal's throat must be cut by a sharp knife severing the carotid artery, jugular vein and windpipe in a single swipe. Blood must be drained out of the carcass.
About 40m cattle, sheep, pigs and calves and 900m poultry birds are killed in British abattoirs each year, according to a Food Standards Agency (FSA) report two years ago, and one estimate has suggested that 114m of these animals, including poultry, are killed using the halal method. The value of the market could be £2bn a year or more.
But contrary to what many assume, most animals killed by halal methods are stunned before slaughter. FSA estimates suggest that 88% of animals in the UK killed by halal methods were stunned beforehand in a way that many Muslims find religiously acceptable.
In many sheep and lambs this is by electronic stunning to the head or in poultry via a water bath electrified with enough power to make them unconscious but not to kill. Another method of stunning that involves cardiac arrest is not allowed under halal rules.
In non-halal slaughterhouses, stunned animals are shackled and hoisted above the ground where a slaughterman "sticks" them, cutting their throat or inserting a chest stick close to the heart. Cattle and some sheep and pigs are stunned by a bolt through the brain before being killed.
Many poultry are now killed using gas. But they have traditionally been shackled, hung upside down on a production line, moved through electrified water to stun them, then conveyed to a mechanical neck cutter. In halal, however, they are killed by hand.
Muslims who oppose any stunning say their method remains the most humane and point out that a number of stunning methods have been banned as being bad for animal welfare.
The Jewish method of slaughter called shechita cannot involve pre-slaughter stunning at all. Its proponents say the technique learned by practitioners over seven years of training meets the European Union's requirement for stunning in that it brings insensitivity to pain and distress. They argue that a surgically sharp instrument, twice the width of the animal's neck and known as the chalaf, is sufficient because of the speed and expertise with which is applied.
It is estimated that in total, under any method, 3% of cattle, 10% of sheep and goats and 4% of poultry slaughtered in Britain are not pre-stunned, although a proportion are stunned after the cut.
Vets say unstunned cattle take about 20 seconds (but up to 2 minutes) to lose consciousness, sheep six or seven seconds (but up to 20) and poultry seven or eight seconds, but all these times can be far longer.
Some European countries, most recently Denmark, have banned slaughter without pre-stunning. The RSPCA and British Veterinary Association are among the groups calling for an end to slaughter without pre-stunning – a move that would mean an end to religious exemptions from European and UK legislation on this element of slaughtering, and also, say campaigners, an end to unnecessary suffering.
Campaigners are urging the government to introduce clear labelling to say whether meat is slaughtered by halal methods – an issue which the European Union is already studying. Some Muslims warn that there must be an information campaign beforehand and those who are against any stunning question why, if labelling on the halal method is necessary, why is not for animals slaughtered in other ways, by captive-bolt gun, gassing, electrocution, drowning or "mis-stunning".
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Anonymous #5
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #10]
#27925871 - 08/30/22 01:38 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I wish animals were euthanized with something like Remifentanil, a fentanyl derivative for anesthesiua that breaks down rapidly in the blood into nonobjectionable metabolites before the dead animal is even cut. It would be a supreme rat poison too, without risk to nontarget organisms except you'd get junkies sucking on bait blocks.
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Anonymous #10
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #5]
#27925884 - 08/30/22 01:57 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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That’s an idea.
And how about when prisoners are given a lethal injection, it’s just a slow drip of good old fashioned morphine? Get them real high and happy and dead? It would be an awesome send off.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #10]
#27926019 - 08/30/22 03:23 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous #10 said: Anonymous #1, sounds like your hatred for Muslims is hindering your ability to reason and do the research. Kosher butchery sounds worse than halal. And if you’re a carnivore, bitching about the humanity behind meat is a laugh.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/may/08/what-does-halal-method-animal-slaughter-involve
What exactly does the halal method of animal slaughter involve?
Contrary to what many assume, an estimated 88% of animals killed by halal methods in Britain are stunned before slaughter
By James Meikle
The debate over when meat is halal and whether it should be clearly labelled has been put back on the agenda by vets and animal welfare campaigners who want all animals slaughtered for food to be stunned before killing.
The Arabic word halal means permissible, and the rules of slaughter are based on Islamic law. The animal has to be alive and healthy, a Muslim has to perform the slaughter in the appropriate ritual manner, and the animal's throat must be cut by a sharp knife severing the carotid artery, jugular vein and windpipe in a single swipe. Blood must be drained out of the carcass.
About 40m cattle, sheep, pigs and calves and 900m poultry birds are killed in British abattoirs each year, according to a Food Standards Agency (FSA) report two years ago, and one estimate has suggested that 114m of these animals, including poultry, are killed using the halal method. The value of the market could be £2bn a year or more.
But contrary to what many assume, most animals killed by halal methods are stunned before slaughter. FSA estimates suggest that 88% of animals in the UK killed by halal methods were stunned beforehand in a way that many Muslims find religiously acceptable.
In many sheep and lambs this is by electronic stunning to the head or in poultry via a water bath electrified with enough power to make them unconscious but not to kill. Another method of stunning that involves cardiac arrest is not allowed under halal rules.
In non-halal slaughterhouses, stunned animals are shackled and hoisted above the ground where a slaughterman "sticks" them, cutting their throat or inserting a chest stick close to the heart. Cattle and some sheep and pigs are stunned by a bolt through the brain before being killed.
Many poultry are now killed using gas. But they have traditionally been shackled, hung upside down on a production line, moved through electrified water to stun them, then conveyed to a mechanical neck cutter. In halal, however, they are killed by hand.
Muslims who oppose any stunning say their method remains the most humane and point out that a number of stunning methods have been banned as being bad for animal welfare.
The Jewish method of slaughter called shechita cannot involve pre-slaughter stunning at all. Its proponents say the technique learned by practitioners over seven years of training meets the European Union's requirement for stunning in that it brings insensitivity to pain and distress. They argue that a surgically sharp instrument, twice the width of the animal's neck and known as the chalaf, is sufficient because of the speed and expertise with which is applied.
It is estimated that in total, under any method, 3% of cattle, 10% of sheep and goats and 4% of poultry slaughtered in Britain are not pre-stunned, although a proportion are stunned after the cut.
Vets say unstunned cattle take about 20 seconds (but up to 2 minutes) to lose consciousness, sheep six or seven seconds (but up to 20) and poultry seven or eight seconds, but all these times can be far longer.
Some European countries, most recently Denmark, have banned slaughter without pre-stunning. The RSPCA and British Veterinary Association are among the groups calling for an end to slaughter without pre-stunning – a move that would mean an end to religious exemptions from European and UK legislation on this element of slaughtering, and also, say campaigners, an end to unnecessary suffering.
Campaigners are urging the government to introduce clear labelling to say whether meat is slaughtered by halal methods – an issue which the European Union is already studying. Some Muslims warn that there must be an information campaign beforehand and those who are against any stunning question why, if labelling on the halal method is necessary, why is not for animals slaughtered in other ways, by captive-bolt gun, gassing, electrocution, drowning or "mis-stunning".
Nice so basically "you're a racist. Here's what I googled in copy paste format. Also Jews are worse."
Wait wait wait let me guess the reply. "Religion isn't a race!"
Because it's about the word play. Not the thought.
Notice how your copy paste has to include "but some Muslims think you gotta slice their neck without being stunned" to be fully accurate?
I do eat meat. I shoot them in the fucking head then I slice their throat deep to make sure they die as quickly as possible. To argue there's a better way would be to be wrong. Assuming the animal is wild and running from you.
I suppose technically if the animal is a "pet" you could kill it in more kind ways to the animal.
But slicing the neck? Humane? Maybe thousands of years ago. But that shit would fucking suck.
But I'm sure none of this matters. I'm just the boogeyman out there attacking Muslims. Meanwhile you got how many people on this thread directly attacking Jews? Including yourself which is paradoxical as fuck.
That's totally fine right?
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Anonymous #10
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #1]
#27926024 - 08/30/22 03:27 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Jesus Christ, you right wing ding bats burden yourselves with as many chips on your shoulders as you can collect. It’s pathetic. The Muslims are the ones who are wild about martyrdom? Nah. The right wing American is the one who is obsessed with that shit.
Btw, Halal and Kosher butchery (which you’re talking about here) are both religious practices, spanky
The world is a completely bewildering and confusing place for not so smart people. I can see why you gravitate to the simplest ideologies and beliefs.
Edited by Anonymous (08/30/22 03:36 PM)
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #10]
#27926166 - 08/30/22 04:38 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous #10 said: Jesus Christ, you right wing ding bats burden yourselves with as many chips on your shoulders as you can collect. It’s pathetic. The Muslims are the ones who are wild about martyrdom? Nah. The right wing American is the one who is obsessed with that shit.
Btw, Halal and Kosher butchery (which you’re talking about here) are both religious practices, spanky
The world is a completely bewildering and confusing place for not so smart people. I can see why you gravitate to the simplest ideologies and beliefs.
Gasp. I'm a leftie AND a hunter.
Which ideologies and beliefs am I following again? I notice youre not making any specific examples. lul.
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Anonymous #10
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #1]
#27926191 - 08/30/22 04:46 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Leftist?

I don’t know if you’re a racist or not. I did prove you wrong about the relative humaneness of halal vs kosher slaughter. You might want to read that copy ‘n paste article from The Guardian. It could help clear up some of your misconceptions
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Weird how some shit is racist and some shit isnt [Re: Anonymous #10]
#27926193 - 08/30/22 04:48 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous #10 said: Jesus Christ, you right wing ding bats burden yourselves with as many chips on your shoulders as you can collect. It’s pathetic. The Muslims are the ones who are wild about martyrdom? Nah. The right wing American is the one who is obsessed with that shit.
Btw, Halal and Kosher butchery (which you’re talking about here) are both religious practices, spanky
The world is a completely bewildering and confusing place for not so smart people. I can see why you gravitate to the simplest ideologies and beliefs.
Real talk real talk.
You dont see how youre making no points at all? Youre just kinda..... saying.... "lul youre stupid." And completely ignoring the context of my post.
You REALLY dont see that?
You really think I needed an explaination that halal and kosher was what they call it and that it was a religious practice? You really think thats something that escaped my mind when you read my first post?
What are you? Honestly real talk. What are you? What makes you be this way? Are you like..... a child? Or maybe on drugs atm? Because it baffles me that someone could reply in the way you are.
Are you defending muslims here? Thinking im specifically targeting islam? My post so clearly points out that I think all religion is stupid and that if I say anything negative about islam immediately people will do exactly what youre doing right now. But if I said it about Jewish people or christians I'd probably get away with it.
You are literally doing the thing I said people do..... WHILE mocking jews yourself. Its absolutely baffling. And to maintain some patronizing tone all the while..... Its..... remarkable. You are remarkable.
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