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RT Russian Propagandist News Outlet 1
#27897064 - 08/10/22 08:30 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Is RT a propaganda machine? The invisible hand of Putin, slapping America's sweet, rosey cheeks?
Is RT really no better than Fox News?
This thread is for posting examples of lies and outright propaganda spread by RT. You can also post lies and outright propaganda spread by Fox News. CNN and MSNBC are off the table, though... Unless you really want to post about them, but I like the idea of censoring this media platform. It makes me feel like a powerful magical creature, like Facebook.
Let's get this shit show on the road folks!

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Re: RT Russian Propagandist News Outlet [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#27897087 - 08/10/22 08:47 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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How much freedom of expression do we expect an official Russian organization to have?
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/rt-news/
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Re: RT Russian Propagandist News Outlet [Re: VP123] 2
#27897195 - 08/10/22 09:57 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Ah yes, but what is the bias of the bias checker?
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Re: RT Russian Propagandist News Outlet [Re: Bigbadwooof] 1
#27897202 - 08/10/22 10:06 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Radio host and prominent Donald Trump ally Alex Jones was told by an RT host that Russian President Vladimir Putin asked him to “say hi to Alex.” Jones has claimed that he was told years ago that ”Putin’s a big listener" and was previously informed that the “Russian government listens to" his show and the Kremlin partially “modeled” RT off of his Infowars network.
https://www.mediamatters.org/alex-jones/rt-host-alex-jones-putin-told-me-say-hi-alex
Yeeeaaaahhhhh . Ok .
"""""Jones has claimed that 9/11 was an “inside job” by the U.S. government and that Osama Bin Laden was “a CIA asset.” He and his Infowars network have heavily praised Putin in recent months.
Kremlin-connected commentators have made clear in recent weeks that they view Jones as an important part of a campaign benefiting Russia.
Jones recently appeared on Tsargrad TV, which was founded by Putin ally Konstantin Malofeev. The Russian tycoon is reportedly “one of Vladimir Putin’s favorite businessmen” and has “close ties to the Kremlin elite.” During the appearance, Tsargrad TV editorial director Alexander Dugin praised Jones as “a hero of this campaign” because he “told the truth while everyone else lied.” Dugin has been widely referred to as “Putin's Rasputin” because of his ties to and influence on the Russian president and his political apparatus. Jones himself bragged about appearing on “Vladimir Putin’s favorite TV show” and with “top Putin advisers.”""""
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Re: RT Russian Propagandist News Outlet [Re: Psilynut2] 3
#27897548 - 08/10/22 03:07 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said: This thread is for posting examples of lies and outright propaganda spread by RT.
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VP123 said: How much freedom of expression do we expect an official Russian organization to have?
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/rt-news/
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Psilynut2 said:
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Radio host and prominent Donald Trump ally Alex Jones was told by an RT host that Russian President Vladimir Putin asked him to “say hi to Alex.” Jones has claimed that he was told years ago that ”Putin’s a big listener" and was previously informed that the “Russian government listens to" his show and the Kremlin partially “modeled” RT off of his Infowars network.
https://www.mediamatters.org/alex-jones/rt-host-alex-jones-putin-told-me-say-hi-alex
Yeeeaaaahhhhh . Ok .
"""""Jones has claimed that 9/11 was an “inside job” by the U.S. government and that Osama Bin Laden was “a CIA asset.” He and his Infowars network have heavily praised Putin in recent months.
Kremlin-connected commentators have made clear in recent weeks that they view Jones as an important part of a campaign benefiting Russia.
Jones recently appeared on Tsargrad TV, which was founded by Putin ally Konstantin Malofeev. The Russian tycoon is reportedly “one of Vladimir Putin’s favorite businessmen” and has “close ties to the Kremlin elite.” During the appearance, Tsargrad TV editorial director Alexander Dugin praised Jones as “a hero of this campaign” because he “told the truth while everyone else lied.” Dugin has been widely referred to as “Putin's Rasputin” because of his ties to and influence on the Russian president and his political apparatus. Jones himself bragged about appearing on “Vladimir Putin’s favorite TV show” and with “top Putin advisers.”""""
So no specific examples of "lies and outright propaganda spread by RT"?
Just unbacked accusations and a claim by Alex Jones that they like him?
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Re: RT Russian Propagandist News Outlet [Re: Jacubey]
#27898221 - 08/10/22 11:20 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Jacubey said: Ah yes, but what is the bias of the bias checker?
That's the neat thing - it's so damn obvious and out in the open you don't need someone to tell you what it is.
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Re: RT Russian Propagandist News Outlet [Re: Bigbadwooof] 3
#27898233 - 08/10/22 11:53 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Have you guys ever heard the phrase "Lie by omission" ?
Good propaganda works because it is not filled with obvious lies.
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Re: RT Russian Propagandist News Outlet [Re: Lynnch] 1
#27898273 - 08/11/22 01:49 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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That's why it's important to read both sides.
No doubt RT omits some news, but I don't think that's a lie.
A lie is when you say Hunter Biden's laptop is Russian disinformation.
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Oh ok so you read VOA? lol
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Re: RT Russian Propagandist News Outlet [Re: twighead] 1
#27898289 - 08/11/22 02:24 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Here's what VOA said about the Hunter Biden laptop:
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Credibility issues
The impact of this year’s release of the alleged Biden emails is unclear.
Allegations that Russia played a role in perpetuating the scandal to benefit Trump could undermine the emails' credibility.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: No doubt RT omits some news, but I don't think that's a lie.
hi honey what did you eat last night?
oh i went to wendys after work
cool, i made dinner for you to take tonight see you after i get home.
wendys is not the fast joint shes that ho from the club.
if your s/o caught you cheating and confronted you would you deny your lie about going to wendys?
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Re: RT Russian Propagandist News Outlet [Re: The Blind Ass] 2
#27898475 - 08/11/22 07:48 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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RT got banned from YouTube for covid misinformation. From YouTube, one of the places where you are basically allowed to say anything,
But here, since it is obvious RT publishes dumb shit all the time, this link will get you to hundreds of RT fact checked articles. Some of them true, many of them false or misleading. Years and years of articles that are checked. In the top 20 or so there are only two that could be considered somewhat true. LOL
https://toolbox.google.com/factcheck/explorer/search/RT;hl=en?authuser=1&pageId=none
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Re: RT Russian Propagandist News Outlet [Re: Bigbadwooof] 2
#27898686 - 08/11/22 09:58 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Factcheck is bullshit. It's just a fucking opinion if not worse.

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Re: RT Russian Propagandist News Outlet [Re: mycot]
#27898828 - 08/11/22 12:07 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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RT Falsely Claims New Zealand Legalizes ‘Orgies’ Amid COVID Measures
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Re: RT Russian Propagandist News Outlet [Re: Lynnch] 2
#27898841 - 08/11/22 12:23 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I don't think it is worth going through the thousands of hilariously awful RT stories that are proven to be dumb, for the sake of the thread I will pick one.
https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-margarita-simonyan-concentration-camps/31705120.html
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On February 13, RT Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan appeared on the “Evening With Vladimir Solovyov” political talk show to deflect allegations that Russia plans a large-scale invasion of Ukraine.
Simonyan argued that it is incorrect to ask whether Russia will invade Ukraine:
“I am absolutely convinced that Russia is not going to start a war with Ukraine, and this will not happen in any way. And if Russia is compelled to interfere with what’s happening in Ukraine, [it will only be] with the goal of ending the war in Ukraine, not to start a war in Ukraine.”
False. Untrue. Make believe. Retarded. Right from the RT editor and chief. Russia is now taking land and imposing ownership over Ukrainian land. So I guess the entire ending war situation is stupid too. Right from the mouth of the RT editor and chief. Surely not propaganda?
It will be fun when the nature of the information is not good enough for certain people here and then dismissed.
Anyways, I am on vacation and am bored so I will do one more. This topic has come up before. The value of the ruble is propped up, everybody knows it.
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2022/05/fact-check-rubles-designation-as-worlds-best-performing-currency-does-not-tell-the-full-story.html
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In short, the Russian ruble is no longer convertible, implying that it makes little sense to talk about it's performance vis-à-vis other currencies.
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Our team are forecasting a 15% contraction in the Russian economy in 2022, wiping out 15 years of economic progress.
I bet we get a lot of Russian propaganda in response though.
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Re: RT Russian Propagandist News Outlet [Re: Bigbadwooof] 3
#27898885 - 08/11/22 01:10 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I think that when it comes to war a little lying goes with the territory (forgive the pun) and is even necessary. Nothing like the US where lying occurs on a gargantuan scale, and the public is kept in the dark about most of the shit that goes on.
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Re: RT Russian Propagandist News Outlet [Re: mycot]
#27898906 - 08/11/22 01:24 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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mycot said: I think that when it comes to war a little lying goes with the territory (forgive the pun) and is even necessary. Nothing like the US where lying occurs on a gargantuan scale, and the public is kept in the dark about most of the shit that goes on.
That's a fair point. I think if the US had a US based news organization (I am not aware of any) propagating our agenda in Russia, their fate would almost certainly be more dubious than that of RT in America. That point is much to the credit of the United States.
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Re: RT Russian Propagandist News Outlet [Re: Bigbadwooof] 1
#27898914 - 08/11/22 01:32 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Besides aliens what are we kept in the dark about?
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Re: RT Russian Propagandist News Outlet [Re: christopera]
#27898915 - 08/11/22 01:32 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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christopera said:
https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-margarita-simonyan-concentration-camps/31705120.html
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On February 13, RT Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan appeared on the “Evening With Vladimir Solovyov” political talk show to deflect allegations that Russia plans a large-scale invasion of Ukraine.
Simonyan argued that it is incorrect to ask whether Russia will invade Ukraine:
“I am absolutely convinced that Russia is not going to start a war with Ukraine, and this will not happen in any way. And if Russia is compelled to interfere with what’s happening in Ukraine, [it will only be] with the goal of ending the war in Ukraine, not to start a war in Ukraine.”
False. Untrue. Make believe. Retarded. Right from the RT editor and chief. Russia is now taking land and imposing ownership over Ukrainian land. So I guess the entire ending war situation is stupid too. Right from the mouth of the RT editor and chief. Surely not propaganda?
Clearly an honest mistake
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