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DoctorBenway
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Adas] 1
#27888324 - 08/03/22 02:38 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Adas said: That would be difficult to determine tho. It might be an alkaloid similar to Psilo, or it may not. In fact, it may not be an alkaloid at all. When you don't know what you're looking for, it complicates things a great deal.
At some point in this thread there was hypothesis mayhap this species has high concentration of Aeruginascin a chemical found in high concentration in a species of inocybe and is thought to be responsible for a reported euphoria by most users. So could start there but may need to create a new name if it's something unique like natalensiscin or something lol
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It should be somewhat easy to test for Aeruginascin in a pro chemistry lab. Might give some Nats to a friend. That should settle this.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Adas] 1
#27888382 - 08/03/22 03:22 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Adas said: It should be somewhat easy to test for Aeruginascin in a pro chemistry lab. Might give some Nats to a friend. That should settle this.
keep us posted
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Adas]
#27888393 - 08/03/22 03:30 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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That would be stellar! Thanks in advance, very excited to hear any findings
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Adas]
#27888476 - 08/03/22 04:45 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Adas said: It should be somewhat easy to test for Aeruginascin in a pro chemistry lab. Might give some Nats to a friend. That should settle this.
That would be very interesting to find out!
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nosf3r4tu


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DERRAYLD said: Okay I have subsequently contacted Alan regarding this and plan to supply him with samples of nss and natalensis.
Awesome, but what im really curious to see would be a spectroanalysis... i wanna know whats responsible for the different headspace, clearly theres something in there thats either not in cubensis at all or at a much lower amount
I tend to think that there's something in Cubes and not in Nats that's causing "problems" / darker experience. I've tried a few species so far and only some Cubes had that darkness to them.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu]
#27889163 - 08/04/22 01:33 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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DERRAYLD said: Okay I have subsequently contacted Alan regarding this and plan to supply him with samples of nss and natalensis.
Awesome, but what im really curious to see would be a spectroanalysis... i wanna know whats responsible for the different headspace, clearly theres something in there thats either not in cubensis at all or at a much lower amount
I tend to think that there's something in Cubes and not in Nats that's causing "problems" / darker experience. I've tried a few species so far and only some Cubes had that darkness to them.
I would also think there's gotta be something else in cubes, besides psilocybin, but I would blame it for the BODY LOAD more so than the "darkness". The darkness I feel comes from psilocybin/psilocin itself, which I think may be in much higher concentration in cubes than nats.
But I haven't tried other species so I'm just talking out my ass really. Basing my opinion on comparison the DMT experience though, which I get the same darkness from.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Forrester]
#27889196 - 08/04/22 01:45 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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DERRAYLD said: Okay I have subsequently contacted Alan regarding this and plan to supply him with samples of nss and natalensis.
Awesome, but what im really curious to see would be a spectroanalysis... i wanna know whats responsible for the different headspace, clearly theres something in there thats either not in cubensis at all or at a much lower amount
I tend to think that there's something in Cubes and not in Nats that's causing "problems" / darker experience. I've tried a few species so far and only some Cubes had that darkness to them.
I would also think there's gotta be something else in cubes, besides psilocybin, but I would blame it for the BODY LOAD more so than the "darkness". The darkness I feel comes from psilocybin/psilocin itself, which I think may be in much higher concentration in cubes than nats.
But I haven't tried other species so I'm just talking out my ass really. Basing my opinion on comparison the DMT experience though, which I get the same darkness from.
impending doom.. like its the end of the world, trees almost burning into the night sky, almost dystopian. i get this too when it really sets in, later on other aspects become more important as "the mushroom speaks". what if this darkness or feeling of impending doom is less related to the molecule itself but rather the "unfiltered" and quite undeniable reality of our times and the mushroom is there to make us understand. we are not so far from the end of days as we continue to damage and destroy life on the planet.. wether we can accept to face this or not.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77] 1
#27889204 - 08/04/22 01:53 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Well, that's a view you're taking into the trip before you even eat the mushroom so you gotta remember that. Not that I'm disagreeing necessarily, but our beliefs going in do shape the experience.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77] 1
#27889209 - 08/04/22 01:56 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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🤣, burning trees and impending doom? The fuck?
No I do not have visions or thoughts of impending doom and see burning trees in the sky.
I had the tree shouting at me before but everything else is just full blown , disassociating colors , patterns , fractals, etc.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Forrester]
#27889214 - 08/04/22 02:15 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Forrester said: Well, that's a view you're taking into the trip before you even eat the mushroom so you gotta remember that. Not that I'm disagreeing necessarily, but our beliefs going in do shape the experience.
sure.. just thinking out loud. many people reporting about this "veil of darkness", friends included and how it is regularly part of the onset of the experience. of course, everybody has his own reactions, projections, etc.. still i find it interesting to try to get through to more general characteristics if there are..
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77]
#27889245 - 08/04/22 03:58 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I currently have 3 natalensis bags going. Day 15 since spawn, no pins yet. They are in XLS-A bags with a .5 micron filter, sealed up. Heavy overlay blobs are all over the surface. Do I need to be more patient or does it require more FAE? The method I used works great for cubensis.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Forrester]
#27889246 - 08/04/22 03:58 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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DERRAYLD said: Okay I have subsequently contacted Alan regarding this and plan to supply him with samples of nss and natalensis.
Awesome, but what im really curious to see would be a spectroanalysis... i wanna know whats responsible for the different headspace, clearly theres something in there thats either not in cubensis at all or at a much lower amount
I tend to think that there's something in Cubes and not in Nats that's causing "problems" / darker experience. I've tried a few species so far and only some Cubes had that darkness to them.
I would also think there's gotta be something else in cubes, besides psilocybin, but I would blame it for the BODY LOAD more so than the "darkness". The darkness I feel comes from psilocybin/psilocin itself, which I think may be in much higher concentration in cubes than nats.
But I haven't tried other species so I'm just talking out my ass really. Basing my opinion on comparison the DMT experience though, which I get the same darkness from.
You may be right about the molecule it self being responsible for the darkness. I remember people reporting it while on pure psilocybin in the medical trials. On the other hand nobody felt it while tripping on Semperviva.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu]
#27889276 - 08/04/22 05:54 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah and most don't seem to get it at all from nats, which clearly gotta have psilocybin, so I dunno?
Definitely did start to get some paranoia at 8g though.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77] 2
#27889330 - 08/04/22 06:53 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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chris77 said: impending doom.. like its the end of the world, trees almost burning into the night sky, almost dystopian. i get this too when it really sets in, later on other aspects become more important as "the mushroom speaks". what if this darkness or feeling of impending doom is less related to the molecule itself but rather the "unfiltered" and quite undeniable reality of our times and the mushroom is there to make us understand. we are not so far from the end of days as we continue to damage and destroy life on the planet.. wether we can accept to face this or not.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Wall.E]
#27889355 - 08/04/22 07:16 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Very interested in trying the nats, I currently only micro/low dose cubes for the reasons mentioned. I find with a micro/low dose I have more of a healing effect, but if I take a higher/mid dose I get anxiety. With a hero's dose I go through the anxiety for a smidge and then it's all good the rest of the way. Can't wait to compare my dosing schedule with nats!
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Nimpo]
#27889363 - 08/04/22 07:27 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Nimpo said: My nats are pinning 10 days since spawning and they look like cubes so far. I’ll post pics in a few days once the fruits are more developed for a verdict.
Zero overlay, very tomentose colonization tho
What do you guys think? Looking like cubes to me:

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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Nimpo] 2
#27889379 - 08/04/22 07:43 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah those are cubes.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Guerrilla] 2
#27889669 - 08/04/22 11:39 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Agreed, those don't look natty to me
Some nice lookin T1s
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