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Invisiblemycologyisc00l
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I want to trip but my rx meds are making it difficult- lets have a discussion!
    #27870085 - 07/20/22 09:25 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Hi all, I'm new to shrooms but not new to all psychedelics
In the past I've done my fair share of with MDMA, DOX & DOB (sold to me as LSD), all prior to being on any rx meds.

Currently I am a 29 year old female, I take Topamax daily, Sertraline daily, and Cymbalta daily, Cyclobenzaprine as needed (almost daily).
I took my first mushroom dose of ~2.5g with no noticeable effect. About a week later I ate 4g dried mushrooms again nothing. After some research I came to understand that anti-anxiety/depression medications can alter the affects of psilocybin. I waited about 2 weeks and decided to try again. I ate a 5g mantra bar and 2gs of dried penis envy, waited about an hour, nothing. (at this point my scale broke) I ate some more dried mushrooms, I'm estimating in total I ate about 13g.
I had an enjoyable trip, pleasant open eyed visuals, hysterical laughter, but found myself to be very much not in control and was happy to have a friend with me. The trip lasted about 5-6 hours.
I am kind of disappointed that I needed such a high dose to notice an effect, I would like to be able to take a lower dose and have a more chill experience. I found the trip to be very overstimulating. I am happy with my experience but I am wondering if other individuals who are also on prescription medication find they need higher doses to achieve the desired effect?
I realize everyones body is different and everyone metabolizes drugs differently.
I'd like to have a discussion on how you came to find out what dose works for you with your medications, obviously I'm not the only person out there on meds trying to trip and I'm certain 13g is not the norm lol. Please don't come at me with "do your research" because obviously I'm trying, I don't think telling my psychiatrist "hey take me off my SSRI and SNRI because its blocking the psilocybin" is wise LMAO, shed be pissed


Edited by mycologyisc00l (07/20/22 09:28 AM)


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OfflineCrafty
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Re: I want to trip but my rx meds are making it difficult- lets have a discussion! [Re: mycologyisc00l]
    #27870127 - 07/20/22 10:09 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

13g is a knock-you-on-your-ass dose for even the most seasoned of veterans.

You pay your psychiatrist, she is your employee performing a service. I think you should discuss it with her. Maybe she’ll agree to ween you off the meds in a controlled way. Maybe she’ll tell you that this is an awful idea. On the one hand, the psychiatrist has a better understanding of your situation than anyone here does, while on the other, she has a self interested reason for discouraging you from trying alternative medicines and keeping you as a paid customer.

Psychedelic drugs are definitely not a cure all for everyone and anyone suffering mental distress. I think you should discuss it with the psychiatrist and continue to do personal research in order to make the most informed decision possible. Your health should always be your first and foremost concern.


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Edited by Crafty (07/20/22 10:10 AM)


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InvisibleMercury17

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Re: I want to trip but my rx meds are making it difficult- lets have a discussion! [Re: Crafty]
    #27870237 - 07/20/22 11:45 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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I don't think telling my psychiatrist "hey take me off my SSRI and SNRI because its blocking the psilocybin" is wise LMAO, shed be pissed




I don't see the problem, if it's your decision. your psychatrist doesn't have the power to keep you perpetually trapped in pharmaceuticals against  your will. emphasis on the last part about this being what you want. it's not up to any other person to decide what is best for you.


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Jeremiah 17:9


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Invisiblemycologyisc00l
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Re: I want to trip but my rx meds are making it difficult- lets have a discussion! [Re: Crafty] * 1
    #27870263 - 07/20/22 12:06 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Unfortunately not all professionals are open to discussing psychedelic drugs and not all of them are educated enough about them to have the discussion. I would like to eventually be off of prescription medications, mainly because of long-term use side effects I experience that have greatly impacted my quality of life in a negative way. micro-dosing with psilocybin only is the ultimate goal. And I did add that along in with my current Rx regimen and I didn't really notice a difference.


Edited by mycologyisc00l (07/20/22 12:07 PM)


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InvisibleMercury17

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Re: I want to trip but my rx meds are making it difficult- lets have a discussion! [Re: mycologyisc00l]
    #27870399 - 07/20/22 01:58 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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mycologyisc00l said:
Unfortunately not all professionals are open to discussing psychedelic drugs and not all of them are educated enough about them to have the discussion. I would like to eventually be off of prescription medications, mainly because of long-term use side effects I experience that have greatly impacted my quality of life in a negative way. micro-dosing with psilocybin only is the ultimate goal. And I did add that along in with my current Rx regimen and I didn't really notice a difference.




hope I didn't come across as harsh. I was just surprised that such a high dose was needed to produce an effect, when there's potential for so much self-growth and healing with psilocybe mushrooms.

at any rate I hope you manage to reach that goal. keep researching your options and see what is possible or necessary in your circumstances. you already discovered psilocybin which is a huge step ahead for most going through these challenges.


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Invisiblenooneman
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Re: I want to trip but my rx meds are making it difficult- lets have a discussion! [Re: mycologyisc00l]
    #27870755 - 07/20/22 06:41 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

You should stay on your medications, you're taking them for a reason, but it's still possible to trip. You'll just need to take larger doses. Be careful though because mushrooms can vary in potency by up to 10x, which could be dangerous when dealing with large amounts.

Instead, you might try 200ug of LSD. LSD binds to receptors in the brain much stronger than mushrooms, so I suspect it'd be more effective at cutting through your medications. Ultimately though, you'll just have to live with taking higher doses if you want to trip while still on meds. Just proceed slowly and cautiously.


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Re: I want to trip but my rx meds are making it difficult- lets have a discussion! [Re: nooneman]
    #27870793 - 07/20/22 07:16 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Pharmaceuticals and large doses of hallucinogens sounds like a potentially heavy load on your neurochemistry whether or not you’re feeling the effects of the narcotics. She needs to proceed with caution.


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Invisiblemycologyisc00l
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Re: I want to trip but my rx meds are making it difficult- lets have a discussion! [Re: Mercury17]
    #27872463 - 07/22/22 06:11 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I too am surprised, that for the most part,I had a pleasant trip with that large of a dose. I realize that that's insane
I have barely figured out how to work this forum and id really like to tag you and Crafty from his last post below, I'm not quite not sure how and I'd hate to say the same shit twice lol I'm sorry! I'm so not tech savvy
I understand the risks of prescription medications and high doses of psychedelics. I've worked in medicine for 12+ years, and have had a strong personal interest in pharmaceuticals and how they react within our brains, and I'm even more passionate about how psychoactive drugs alter our consciousness. Consciousness has sparked some kid of spiritual meaning to me. So no, I'm not trying to fuck around and get high here, I'm trying to heal myself, and if I come off as defensive that's why and I apologize! lol


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Invisiblemycologyisc00l
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Re: I want to trip but my rx meds are making it difficult- lets have a discussion! [Re: nooneman]
    #27872465 - 07/22/22 06:16 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I feel like id want to my LSD experience to be in a controlled therapy environment lmao
I wish I lived in Switzerland :rolleyes:


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Re: I want to trip but my rx meds are making it difficult- lets have a discussion! [Re: mycologyisc00l]
    #27873749 - 07/23/22 05:29 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

If you trust your psychiatrist and feel her advice and prescriptions have helped, I recommend you tell her everything and inform her about your use of psilocybin since it is a relevant factor to your care.

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mycologyisc00l said:
I have barely figured out how to work this forum and id really like to tag you and Crafty from his last post below, I'm not quite not sure how and I'd hate to say the same shit twice lol I'm sorry!




There's not really tagging, but try the quote feature.

Under each post title there are three big options - reply, quote and quick reply. Hitting 'quote' automatically generates their text showing like it does here, you can edit it to only quote the parts needed. This allows you to respond to specific points as I am now


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Re: I want to trip but my rx meds are making it difficult- lets have a discussion! [Re: CreonAntigone]
    #27884261 - 07/31/22 03:44 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

as you already know, mycologyisc00l: you only get one brain...

perhaps worth considering that playing chemistry set with it is...

perhaps also worth considering:

Johann Hari - Depression: The Real Causes (& Unexpected Solutions)



and this book:

"The Emperor's New Drugs: Exploding the Antidepressant Myth" --2010
Irving Kirsch Ph.D.

**…“Some people said to Irving—so what? Okay, so say it’s a placebo effect. Whatever the reason, people still feel better. Why break the spell? He explained: the evidence from the clinical trials suggests that the antidepressant effects are a largely a placebo, but the side effects [“sexual dysfunction [“made sex painful”] & weight gain, increase the risks of suicide, increases the risk of death from all causes”, etc. ...]


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