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Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says
    #27878489 - 07/26/22 08:44 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says
July 25, 2022 - CNN

Higher concentrations of tetrahydrocannabinol or THC -- the part of the marijuana plant that makes you high -- are causing more people to become addicted in many parts of the world, a new review of studies found.

Compared with people who use lower-potency products (typically 5 to 10 milligrams per gram of THC), those who use higher-potency cannabis are more likely to experience addiction and mental health outcomes, according to the study published Monday in the journal Lancet Psychiatry.

Scientists have established a "standard THC unit" of 5 milligrams of THC for research. That amount is said to produce a mild intoxication for nonregular users.

"One of the highest quality studies included in our publication found that use of high potency cannabis, compared to low potency cannabis, was linked to a four-fold increased risk of addiction," said study coauthor Tom Freeman, a senior lecturer in the department of psychology and director of the addiction and mental health group at the University of Bath in the United Kingdom, in an email.

In the United States, about 3 in 10 people who use marijuana have cannabis use disorder, the medical term for marijuana addiction, according to the US Centers for Disease and Prevention.

The European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction found a 76% rise in people entering treatment for cannabis addiction over the past decade, "while cannabis potency continued to rise during the same time," Freeman said.

In addition, "a report by the United Nations found that in the past two decades, the proportion of people seeking treatment for cannabis addiction has risen in all world regions apart from Africa," he said.

A yearly rise in potency

In a gram of herbal cannabis, the dried and harvested tops of female marijuana plants that are typically smoked, THC concentrations increased by approximately 2.9 milligrams each year, according to a 2020 study by Freeman and his team at the University of Bath.

In cannabis resin, the sticky brown sap on the plant from which extracts and concentrations are made, THC levels increased by approximately 5.7 milligrams each year from 1975 to 2017, the study found. Concentrated products can reach extremely high levels of THC.

This yearly rise in potency may not be clear to consumers, experts fear. While looking at a product label might tell a person the "precise potency" of THC in a store where marijuana is legally sold, "people buying cannabis illegally may not be able to access reliable information about the potency of the product they are using," Freeman said.

"However, certain types of cannabis are typically more potent than others -- cannabis extracts are typically more potent than cannabis flower," he added.

While people do try to adjust their consumption when the potency of their cannabis varies, "such as by adding less cannabis to their joint or inhaling less deeply," these efforts fail to completely work, Freeman said. That means "higher potency products still deliver a larger dose of THC to consumers than lower potency products," he said.

Mental health affected

As marijuana became more potent, cases of marijuana-associated psychosis rose, the review found. Psychosis is a "loss of contact with reality" that can be characterized by hearing voices and having delusions, Freeman said.

"The evidence linking cannabis potency to addiction and psychosis was very clear," he said.

High-potency weed users appear to have a significant increase in the likelihood of developing generalized anxiety disorder than those who smoke less robust strains of marijuana, a 2020 study had found.

However, the new review of studies found a "more varied" connection between the increase in marijuana potency and depression and anxiety, "meaning that the impact is unclear for these other mental health outcomes," Freeman said.

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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: veggie] * 1
    #27878559 - 07/26/22 09:47 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

this is a total crok

I use less weed when it's pure

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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: Yokal]
    #27878612 - 07/26/22 10:53 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I'll need some of that to be sure


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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: Wildmana]
    #27878616 - 07/26/22 10:57 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Don't matter what it is the higher ups ell find a reason to blame something people hang theirselves too but they still make rope


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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: Wildmana] * 1
    #27878758 - 07/27/22 04:00 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Wish the whole study was free to read

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(22)00161-4/fulltext

Good catch Veggie. Already I've noticed a lot of people talking online about preferring homegrown as it's not such a head fuck compared to super weed. It seems that there is measurable data that confirms that preference.


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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: Northerner]
    #27878918 - 07/27/22 08:15 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I suppose some people may become addicted to marijuana and I wish them well. But I can't help be reminded of this video:


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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: veggie]
    #27879053 - 07/27/22 10:31 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I used to primarily grow and smoke CBD dominant strains, my favorite was about 15% CBD and 9% THC.  Super relaxing, no paranoia, and still a good medicinal effect. 

Eventually I let that one go, which I still regret, and started focusing on THC strains.  Now I have one that can hit over 30% THC, and I'm seeing slightly more demand for low potency but high quality "Dad weed", which the dispensaries never sell.

I would consider myself addicted to cannabis in the same way I am addicted to antipsychotics, withdrawal from either increases the symptoms of the diseases they each respectively treat. 

Cannabis withdrawal makes it extremely difficult for me to eat, as I primarily use it to help with Crohn's disease, but by using it daily I have been able to eat enough to maintain a healthy BMI.


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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: yoosername] * 1
    #27879213 - 07/27/22 01:07 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Cannabis addiction is mild physically and mostly psychological overall, like caffeine. That's one of the reasons these two substances are considered relatively safe. The part of the studys' conclusions that are more concerning than addiction is increasingly poor mental health outcomes with these new super weeds. This sort of thing can lead to medical intervention which can deepen the clusterfuck by unnecessarily introducing people to SSRIs and other potent drugs that can have even more significant long term poor outcomes. Snowball effect.


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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #27879869 - 07/27/22 09:39 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Weed is addictive for sure, we just had a thread recently where a few people talked about their struggles with it:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27869961#27869961
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It's pretty habit forming. I was stuck into it for years on end. Finally took someone close to me to point out that I was in a rut and didn't actually enjoy it anymore, I was so deep into it I couldn't see what was happening. So I quit.
That was about 20 years ago now. I've had a few tokes since then, light buzz, but never hit it hard. Seems like a trap.



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Yeah, quite addictive and hard to quit IME.  Add that to an addictive personality type and it makes it hard to regulate.




I think that we're reluctant to admit its addictiveness because of all the anti-drug propaganda we're trying to fight at the same time. Like for sure, this article is clearly anti-drug and maybe even propaganda. But I think it's also important to admit that weed is addictive.

My own experience largely tracks with the comments above. Weed was as addictive and hard to quit as all the other drugs I quit, including alcohol and cigarettes. And it was harder to stay quit than those others. I still get cravings for weed, I don't with alcohol and cigarettes. I've never been able to control my use of weed either, it's the one drug I really have a problem controlling. If I do even a single hit, then I can't control it and I'm right back to all day every day, even if I don't have a good time.

Still, I doubt that modern weed is significantly more potent or more addictive than at any time in the past. This seems like the UK's whole "skunk" bullshit all over again. It's a balancing act admitting that it's addictive, but also fighting against all this bullshit anti-drug propaganda at the same time.

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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: nooneman]
    #27880597 - 07/28/22 03:40 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

No one's sold their body for weed in here have they?

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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: Yokal]
    #27880720 - 07/28/22 05:43 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Not like sexually (yet) but physical labor wise, sure


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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: Yokal]
    #27880763 - 07/28/22 06:18 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

No one sells their body for coffee, alcohol or cigarettes either, but the video is still super funny.


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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: veggie]
    #27881197 - 07/28/22 11:46 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

It's actually just unhealthy people that become "marijuana addicts"

because I can go for an entire month without smoking weed, then when I finally get some, I can take only one(1) hit, and not take another hit until 12 hours later. Marijuana isn't addictive.


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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: thirtygoats]
    #27881227 - 07/29/22 12:25 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Your experience is not universal.

Addiction does not function the same for everyone with every substance. Just like some people can take or leave alcohol whist others ruin their lives in stupor, how others fall to benzos whilst being uninterested in amphetamines or fall to coke whilst opioids produce no significant high at all. Some people cannot sleep or even write with a pen if they have not had a cup of tea. Some people will drink Coca-Cola till all of their teeth fall out and still keep at it despite the pain.

Addiction is a very complex subject that represents different drives and symptoms to different individuals.


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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: Northerner]
    #27881891 - 07/29/22 03:18 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

This is psuedo science garbage you aren't going to go to chemical withdrawls from weed, you are addicted in the same way someone is addicted to picking their nose or playing video games or breathing air.

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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: Yokal]
    #27881925 - 07/29/22 03:48 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Yeah, it's a peer reviewed systematic review of many studies with correlating datapoints of pseudoscience, done by doctors. :lol:


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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: Yokal] * 1
    #27881926 - 07/29/22 03:49 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Yokal said:
This is psuedo science garbage you aren't going to go to chemical withdrawls from weed, you are addicted in the same way someone is addicted to picking their nose or playing video games or breathing air.




It is actually 'pseudo science garbage' to believe that withdrawal only happens with hard drugs. What goes up, must come down. Withdrawal is experienced from most people I know who have quit even common legal drugs like coffee or nicotine.

It is only basic science that a substance which is so effective at changing how we behave - getting rid of nausea, etc - can cause the opposite when suddenly withdrawn. It is not only hard drugs which cause withdrawal effects - anti-depressants like SSRIs, heart medicine, blood pressure medicine, the list goes on. Your body gets used to something and if it is quickly withdrawn things go haywire.

Cannabinoids are central in the CNS and interact with the endogenous opioid system. They are used as treatment for nausea and sleep disorders; but in the same way, going off them quickly can lead to the opposite problem as the body experiences rebounds - more nausea and sleeplessness than they had before they started weed. The withdrawal from cannabis is not as serious as that caused by most other drugs, but I could see it being quite bad for a person if they are trying to quit. The immediate withdrawal goes away pretty quickly but it can be a bad cycle if a person keeps returning to it and going off it again just as quickly, creating repeated up-down withdrawal effects. And I have no doubt that some people are trying to quit and keep getting pushed back into it because they feel the terrible rebound nausea that can only be resolved by taking another toke.

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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: Northerner]
    #27881945 - 07/29/22 04:11 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Wish the whole study was free to read



Here you go:

https://purehost.bath.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/242102875/Cannabis_potency_review_Clean_version.pdf

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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: veggie]
    #27881981 - 07/29/22 04:33 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Thanks mate.

It's a pretty well done review, very logical large scale analysis.

Interesting is the data points in it showing low occurrence of harm outcomes with weed -15% THC. It shows everything they told us in the old days about weed being mostly harmless is true, and now companies have gone and turned it into a something else. Something much darker, something that is nowhere near as safe.


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Re: Highly potent weed creating marijuana addicts worldwide, study says [Re: Northerner]
    #27882160 - 07/29/22 06:50 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I have still never seen or heard someone screaming and vomiting at the same time. :shrug:

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