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Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission
    #27877566 - 07/26/22 07:53 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

This is not meant to be in any way offensive, or derogatory, and the following is simply an inquiry into human behavior. I feel there are many people on the shroomery that would be able to shed some light, and I have not read anywhere as of yet where this questions is being addressed.

I am currently a Healthcare worker, I have extensive background in healthcare, from Medical Assistant, to Paramedic, to Army Combat Medic, to Geriatric medicine, etc...and the question simply stems from a curiosity.

Why is nobody asking...”Why is Monkeypox spreading like wild fire through the LGBTQ+ community”...now I understand there were some major spreading events that took place, and was effectively the catalyst to the current outbreak, but that has been some time ago now, and by all reasons...the virus should be affecting the “General Population” by now...

Given how the virus spreads, (Respiratory Droplets, and close contact with person/item + direct contact with bodily fluid) it should be in more people that do not identify with LGBTQ+ community.

So really what it boils down to, is...

What is it about the LGBTQ+ community that causes such a spike in transmission?

Is it an overall Riskier behavioral pattern that affects gay men?

Is it because these communities tend to be much more communal, and thus closer contact?

In my experience in the medical field I can personally say that it is apparent that gay men do partake in much riskier behavior, which has consequences...but is this the sole reason why it is dominant in that community, and allowed to take hold?  Lack of Education?

Obviously it is just a matter of time before it jumps into the general population, but even then...will it continue to spread unimpeded? Is there a biological vulnerability in the LGBTQ+ community that has gone unaddressed?

Nobody is asking this question in fear of being interpreted as bias, or prejudice against a minority culture, but it needs to be asked...also, don’t say that it is because there is unequal healthcare in that community...that is simply an inaccurate excuse, the majority of education and vaccination programs have been targeted directly to those at higher risk.

I am open to responses, but please try to keep them somewhat intellectual, and constructive.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #27877647 - 07/26/22 09:14 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Im a member of an adult bathhouse. during the corona virus, only 4 people and one staff member become sick at the club. Closed for a couple weeks. Opened again masked only but its an adult club so that didnt work out. Then it went to vaxxed only for big events like cum nation, platos retreat, xmas eve nye and other private parties. Now its back to anyone can attend. We have a health care day with testings for all sorts of things. We are aware of the monkeypox but it does not seem to be here. But whats told on the news probably isnt what's really happening. Our bathhouse has super hot water, places smells like a dr offices its so clean. And you couldnt tell its a gay bathhouse for the street.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27877770 - 07/26/22 10:55 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

If there is proper cleansing protocols, then it is more than likely stemming from direct contact exposure, it seems to spreading in the 1-3 days prior to rash forming, but at the early onset of mild fever, and swollen lymph nodes.

Even still, would you say that there is less inhibitions whilst at the celebrations? Obviously alchohal and drug use is directly linked to risky behavior because it lowers inhibitions.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #27878141 - 07/26/22 04:05 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I tend not to kiss people. while giving oral sex isnt much safer i guess. but we can clean the area with a bacteria wash or wrap it.

group activity 2 years ago was higher than currently. But we are seeing more people actively coming to the club and staying longer again.

people come to the club to have sex. they dont need to drink but I guess it helps. ours is BYOB. I dont see much drinking but there is some..


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27879413 - 07/27/22 03:51 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I would strongly recommend wrapping...I say that because while anti-bacterial wipes can help prevent topic spreading of some infections, most of the bad ones stem from viral infections, and bacterial wipes do not prevent viral transmission, not to mention that have bodily fluid simply touch your skin (from someone who is infected with Monkeypox) who be enough to cause an infection....common misunderstanding is that it needs to be inhaled, consumed, or absorbed for it to be transmitted, when in reality...simply touching infected or soiled material can cause lesions and infection.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #27879487 - 07/27/22 04:30 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

98% of gays has sex with <20 people in their lifetime.

the other 2% is having 23% of all gay sex reported.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: Asante]
    #27879535 - 07/27/22 04:59 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

cum fluids do not contain monkey pox virus. soaps break apart viruses.
we are not different than any other bar/tavern setting. probably safer just rooms, showers and open sex areas, with wash kits and condoms free at disposal.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: Asante]
    #27879536 - 07/27/22 04:59 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

That's probably true, or at least similar, to non-gay sex as well.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: Kryptos]
    #27879576 - 07/27/22 05:29 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Then I guess my question still stands from my original post...

Why is Monkeypox spreading so much more in communities and individuals that identify as LGBTQ+ members.

If the practices are safer, if precautions are being taken, is risk is the same, if not lower...and if the majority of sexual partners is so much greater for the general population...I still can’t figure out why it’s not in the general population at least as much if not more.

Just asking a question that seems to be going unaddressed in hopes of gaining new insight.

Also, there are no definite answers to whether or not orthopox viruses can be transmitted via semen, or other discharges, as of now there is no confirming data either way...but recent studies have leaned toward “IT CAN be spread through semen”

I will add that those particular studies indicated large quantities of Viral DNA (orthopox viruses are large and complex virus, differs from RNA viruses such as corona-type viruses)
However it is still being studied if those large quantities of DNA are infectious, or are they simply broken down remnants. I still urge extreme caution, you’ll notice the news is not discussing how an infection will cause horrible permanent scarring, can cause blindness and deafness.

A key part of my job in the army as a medic was Bioterror response, and in particular smallpox...the vaccine for that 1 causes a permanent scar, and takes more than 30 days to heal, and is contagious for as long as there is a pox-Mark.
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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #27879611 - 07/27/22 05:53 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

how widespread is drug use in the LGBTQA+ community?

there is extreme toxicity and immunosuppressive effects of substances like heroin and poppers.

for example, specifically with poppers, the bloods capability to transport oxygen is compromised, and they may also severely damage the immune system, genes, and lungs.  oxygen deficiency, causes damages to the linings of the smallest blood vessels.  this self-destructive process is particularly noticeable in the lungs.  when inhaled, dead organic material is produced, which cannot be completely disposed of by the cells' weakened toxication system.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #27879702 - 07/27/22 07:33 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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thealienthatategod said:
how widespread is drug use in the LGBTQA+ community?

there is extreme toxicity and immunosuppressive effects of substances like heroin and poppers.

for example, specifically with poppers, the bloods capability to transport oxygen is compromised, and they may also severely damage the immune system, genes, and lungs.  oxygen deficiency, causes damages to the linings of the smallest blood vessels.  this self-destructive process is particularly noticeable in the lungs.  when inhaled, dead organic material is produced, which cannot be completely disposed of by the cells' weakened toxication system.




Well...even if there is a wider tendency to use drugs that have “said” effects on the body..it (shouldn’t) effect case loads....people who are unvaccinated for smallpox and/or Monkeypox will most certainly develope symptoms of an active infection (albeit different timelines). It’s not like covid in that some people will show symptoms, and others won’t based off of lifestyle, genes, and immuno-response.

Really, the only affect I could see as a byproduct of compromised health would be an individual higher mortality rate, paired with a higher viral load. The latter of the 2 may cause easier transmission...but I haven’t seen any studies...more than likely it would result in higher pox rate, which would cause higher transmissions...but overall as a rule...if your directly exposed and unvaccinated...you will get it, if your successfully vaccinated, you are much less likely to get it. (I say successfully vaccinated because when receiving this vaccine for the first time, you must be monitored for a “take”. Because it is a dermal vaccine, there is a chance that the bifurcated needle will not convey enough of the viral material to stimulate an immune response (thus effectively resulting in a pointless vaccine). Usually noticeable by NOT developing a pox mark, or rash at the site of vaccination (L-Shoulder).

Please make smart choices, please educate people who are uneducated. Fear is useless, and harmful...but accepting accurate knowledge will quell this epidemic prior to pandemic. 

If anyone has any questions regarding the vaccine, Monkeypox cases, etc. etc. feel free to PM me, and I’ll do my best to offer advice/insight.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #27880364 - 07/28/22 11:21 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

there is evidence to support the hypothesis that gay and bisexual men have poorer health and weaker immune systems than heterosexual men.  this is due to a number of reasons, including stress, but the obvious connection between drug abuse and immune disorders should not be ignored.

re vaccination, i hope those at risk for monkeypox make an honest assessment of the risk to benefit ratio of being vaccinated.  there are many engaged in supporting weaponized public health-related propaganda.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #27880462 - 07/28/22 01:01 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

When speaking of immune disorders, what specifically are you referring to? Are we talking immune suppression from steroidal medications, and Non steroidal? Are we talking auto-immune disorders stemming from histamine release?

There are 2 major auto immune disorders that I can think of off the top of my head that could directly complicate smallpox/Monkeypox vaccination, and also complicate an infection of those.

Exzema, Scoriasis...(forgive the spelling)

Both are related to auto-immune (over efficiency) and skin related disorders. Most auto immune disorder are a result of over exposure to something that the body recognizes as invasive, but that in itself is linked mainly to genetics.

Certain drugs, especially invasive drug use can cause the immune system to become “less tolerant”, and thus react more severely to allergins, infections, etc. etc.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #27880760 - 07/28/22 06:12 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

hype in the pipe :meff:


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27880962 - 07/28/22 07:55 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I would just like to add a case report of a friend of mine.

He was a regular heroin user, many times each day. (He did not inject, so it was minimally invasive, but caused damage in other ways). I followed his clinical assessments, and offered guidance...

His bloodwork showed that he had a consistently elevated white blood cell count. (Cancers were ruled out, and the count was not high enough or specific enough to signify infection). It was determined through lab work that consistent use of a few types of foreign substances, regularly introduced into the body was causing a sudden histamine release, paired with mild immune response...over time his immune system learned that “maybe this was the new normal” and began to regulate itself to maintain an above average immune system, as well as increased sensitivity to allergins. As a result, the doctor he was seeing said...and I quote...

“Son, do you ever get sick?”
He was astonished at the efficiency and quicker response of this “over-active” immune system. This can be a good thing, and also very dangerous.

If you are not familiar with Cytokine storms, I would recommend looking it up. But a consistently active immune response almost always results in the body having very high levels of inflammation, as well as severe auto immune diseases, basically the immune system begins to attack itself, (it has be re-wired after all)....so, said friend had through the course of his addiction altered his body enough to where his allergies increased 20x, and he was diagnosed with severe arthritis, and dermatitis at the age of 30.

The flip side was that he rarely was sick for prolonged periods.

Another downside is that with overactive immune response, you are more likely to have an over-reaction to an infection...which is what is happening the cases where people catch covid, and suddenly they can’t breath. Effectively their immune system cleans out your lungs of the good and the bad. Whereas a slower immune response does a good job (but sick a little longer), and slight immune response means you may not even know your sick...

After all...a fever, and most symptoms that are associated with flu like illnesses are a direct result of histamine release and inflammation. (Which is why NSAIDs are effective). Ok medical school complete.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #27881363 - 07/29/22 06:12 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

i did not have a specific autoimmune disease in mind when i referred to immune disorder, i’m merely highlighting the fact that recreational drug use can  damage the immune system, and these recreational drug abusers may be immunocompromised, regardless of whether or not they have received a label and diagnosis of a specific autoimmune disease.

very interesting that your friend is a heroin user, this is the exact idea that i am drawing attention to.  i'm suggesting that recreational drug use could be the primary factor that causes these individuals to become immunocompromised.  their immune system is wrecked bc of excessive drug use over years.  i believe that monkeypox is actually a smorgasbord of well known diseases.  toxic living is more of a detriment to human health than any communicable disease.

also, i'm asking if monkeypox symptoms could be triggered by environmental factors like drugs, medications, and even insufficient nutrition.  in every case of monkeypox, non-viral factors need to be ruled out as the primary cause.  of course, this won't happen.

because, more vaccines = more human guinea pigs.  the monkeypox fiasco, will lead to more corporate greedy needs that are always placed before human health, safety, and wellness.

time will tell if this pathogen attacks all people equally, men and women, straight and gay, and those who have no history of recreational drug abuse, again, i'm thinking specifially of heroin and popper abuse in these cases.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #27881469 - 07/29/22 08:41 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Quote:

thealienthatategod said:

also, i'm asking if monkeypox symptoms could be triggered by environmental factors like drugs, medications, and even insufficient nutrition.  in every case of monkeypox, non-viral factors need to be ruled out as the primary cause.  of course, this won't happen.

because, more vaccines = more human guinea pigs.  the monkeypox fiasco, will lead to more corporate greedy needs that are always placed before human health, safety, and wellness.

time will tell if this pathogen attacks all people equally, men and women, straight and gay, and those who have no history of recreational drug abuse, again, i'm thinking specifially of heroin and popper abuse in these cases.




Monkeypox is an Orthopoxvirus, it is in the same family as smallpox...and very very similar.  Immune compromised individuals may have more severe symptoms, however...healthy people would have a strong immune response, and show symptoms as well.  As far as this vaccine goes, I am against the covid vaccine, but very much in support of the smallpox/Monkeypox vaccine...the science is “better”. Smallpox vaccine originated from milk maids who had contracted Cowpox from the utters of cows, and cross immunity gave them more protection from smallpox, whereas people who had never worked with cows, or been exposed usually had around a 30% mortality rate. (This was bsck in the 1700s and I Think we can agree that their lifestyles (although much harder) were much healthier). People who have been vaccinated for smallpox (myself included) have around 80% now protection from Monkeypox also, again...people who have never had any type of exposure are at very high risk for more severe infections. I think immune compromised individuals def. have a much higher risk of severe disease, but anyone can become symptomatic, and transmit the disease.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #27881959 - 07/29/22 04:17 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

it is nice to see someone else here who is against covid-19 vaccination.

was smallpox really a viral epidemic that was successfully overpowered by vaccines?

a look at history books and statistics shows that epidemics always develop where human immune systems have been weakened.  could covid-19 vaccination have anything to do with the monkeypox outbreak?

in england, for example, 20 years after the introduction of mandatory vaccinations, relative to smallpox vaccination,  there was a 98% vaccination rate, yet there were five times as many deaths from smallpox as there was prior to the introduction of mandatory vaccinations.

in this case, the smallpox epidemic reached its peak after vaccinations had been introduced.  a paper was published in the british medical journal disclosed that the risk of dying from smallpox was five times higher for those who had been vaccinated than those who had not.

during the spanish flu, a frequently observed symptom was internal bleeding in the lungs, but this was a phenomenon that was also described as a result of smallpox vaccination.  numerous sources at the time report that mass vaccinations decisively contributed in that pandemic.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #27882543 - 07/30/22 06:44 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I have studied the smallpox vaccine program for a very long time, the virology around it has always been very very interesting to me, smallpox has been around for thousands of years...(proof from pox marked mummies)....now, there is some immunity that comes from genetics, and passed down from parents to offspring, but the majority comes from mild cases, compared to different strains of severity.

I would be very interested in reading the medical journal your referring to, also it is very important to note that the initial vaccine, was not a vaccine at all...it was an “inoculation”....meaning that a doctor would take Puss from a pox mark from someone who had an active infection, and smear it into the arm of a healthy person...(this was a very risky maneuver). So...Puss is nothing but damaged white blood cells, and destroyed viral or bacterial remnants...but there is a mixture of infectious and non infectious matter, what they found was that if they inoculated with puss, then the risk of a full on infection was “less” but the patients would usually still have some form of the disease...this often resulted in adverse effects, and many many deaths...it wasn’t until later that effective and safer true vaccines were developed....early on in the vaccination process, there were not many precautions for vaccines, everyone got them, and a lot of people died...

I would also like to add something that I have not proven, but I see as an odd coincidence and may be worth looking into.

In 1979 the WHO stopped mandatory smallpox vaccinations...as they declared smallpox to be eradicated.

Shortly after in 1980s, HIV took off like wild fire.

A recent study in 2017 showed that the smallpox vaccine (and smallpox itself) causes a permanent change in how white blood cells are shaped, and a slight change in how they function....the result was that These white cells were 5x more resistant to HIV infection.

I believe that nature keeps everything in equilibrium
And that what helps us today, can hurt us tmrw, and vice versa.

But...with that said, the smallpox vaccine (albeit risky because it is a live virus vaccine) Is safer than catching the real thing hands down.

Genetic immunity is also why Europeans were not decimated by smallpox in the 15-1600s whereas native Americans were.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #27882812 - 07/30/22 11:49 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

the study in the british medical journalthat i referenced, is talked about in a book that i have called, vaccines are they really safe and effective? by neil miller.  i will look at the sources and see if i can track down the original material.

you are very knowledgeable about smallpox, and i like the coincidences that you noticed with hiv.

when evidence for hiv was first “disovered” many scientific theories began to masquerade as proven facts.

you may find this website interesting, rethinking aids the group for the scientific reprisal of the hiv/aids hypothesis

hiv antibody tests are not a reliable instrument.  it’s all about making multimillion, billion, trillion dollar profits.  viruses can be constantly invented on a whim just by giving a new name to a typical disease, and then those "viruses" can keep mutating as needed to keep the cash flowing! i believe human understanding of what viruses is, is almost next to nothing.

hiv has never been detected in its purified form.  all electron-micrographs of hiv do not come from sampling patients blood, but come from cell cultures that have been embellished.

the primary issue that i see with all virus boggie man propaganda, is that is allows for there always to be somewhere else to place the blame, instead of with the individual or with the environment.  the pharmaceutical industry can not earn money if the basis of all disease states is emphasized to be caused by harmful chemical substances.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #27883770 - 07/31/22 07:30 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Well...virology is one of my strong suits...thanks for the links too.

I will say that HIV is a very unique virus, most studies come from cultures samples for 1 major reason, and that is this;

HIV is a virus that has the ability to change its RNA based specifically off of each individual white blood cell it infects, each person has billions of WBCs, so when studying it in a lab there needs to be a constant, whereas if they were taking samples from bloodwork, every virus would be different.

The lab controlled variable means that they can make accurate hypothesis and predictions as to how the virus will react to whatever test is being conducted.

Using actual blood samples would introduce wayyy too many unknown variables into the situation and negate any scientific knowledge.

So “petri dish samples” are just an effective, and easy way to control the amount of influencing factors into each study.

That ability to alter/Cater its RNA coding time each individual WBC is also what makes it so difficult to provide an anti viral therapy.

Now...if we are talking about a case by case basis, HIV can be treated somewhat successfully, however on the grand scene...with billions of people at risk...they are finding it very difficult to find a “1 size fits all” treatment to this emerging/evolving infection


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #27894329 - 08/08/22 06:15 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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In 1979 the WHO stopped mandatory smallpox vaccinations...as they declared smallpox to be eradicated.

Shortly after in 1980s, HIV took off like wild fire.




The people who got hiv in the 80s were all vaccinated for smallpox. Remember children were the primary recipients of the vaccine and you’d have to wait nearly two decades before the kids who weren’t vaccinated starting in the early 70s got old enough to become sexually active.

What appears to be contemporaneous is not actually.

Why is monkeypox spreading mainly amongst gay men? Monkeypox is an STD the way mononucleosis, MRSA or ringworm are STDs. Intimacy clearly plays a role, but I think focusing on sexual intimacy is a big mistake. Kissing is probably a big mode of transmission. Contaminated surfaces like clothing, towels and exercise equipment are also pretty risky.

The virus was introduced into a very sexually active and mobile demographic, seeding new outbreaks all over the world. Non sexual transmission between gay men is also happening. Roommates and friends. People are getting infected at gyms. We are not finding many cases in groups other than sexual active gays because we aren’t looking elsewhere. Many reports of women and straight men having a hard time even getting tested. Until recently in the U.K. you couldn’t even qualify for a test unless you were a sexually active gay man.

It’s spreading outside the gay community. In Mexico now more than 10% of cases are in women. Until the case growth in gay men slows, the growing signal in the wider community will be hard to see. Only a dozen of so women in NYC are sick. But remember two months ago there were only a dozen gay men in NYC. Intimate contact is going to become risky for everyone not too far down the line I suspect.

Monkeypox is going to be a slow burn in the general population, but I do think it’s here for good.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #27896825 - 08/10/22 03:47 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

THE mistake of the 1980s was to homophobe AIDS off as a gay disease and sweep it under the rug.

Dont mistake it, monkeypox is for everybody, and stigmatizing it as "something other people get but not me" will only facilitate its spread.

If you touch something touched by it and then touch your mouth or pick your nose, i'm pretty sure you'll get it.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: Asante]
    #27900353 - 08/12/22 09:30 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Here is a link to the study, showing that smallpox vaccination causes a mutation in white blood cells making it 5x harder (roughly) for HIV to infect/reproduce.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/05/100517204405.htm
It’s an old article, I remember I read it back when I was in school.

Now it’s important to notice that I said 5x more resistant to infection, NOT immune to infection...so of course people will continue to get HIV even if they had been vaccinated for smallpox, however the case counts sky rocketed once the smallpox vaccine ended its global campaign, and the age gap was bridged between risk exposure, and the non-vaccinated. So there is definitely a correlation there that could be understudied.


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Re: Monkeypox, and the patterns of Transmission [Re: Asante]
    #27900629 - 08/12/22 01:06 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Asante said:

If you touch something touched by it and then touch your mouth or pick your nose, i'm pretty sure you'll get it.




Actually...if you simply touch it, you’ll get it, contracting Monkeypox and orthopoxviruses in general does not require ingestion...

It’s called direct transmission through skin to skin contact, and can also occur when materials that have been exposed to Monkeypox comes in contact with other parts of the body.

Pretty sturdy and resilient virus, and it’s effective with droplet transmission, as well as broad range of bodily fluid transmission, and skin to skin contact.

And as I said ways up...the purpose of this thread is not to make this sound like a “gay virus”...but to simply uncover cultural, habitual, behavioral, environmental influences, and causes as to why it is spreading predominantly in the LGB+++ community (NOW).

I’m sure we can look into general population transmission rates once it has made that jump. And it will...


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