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Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics * 2
    #27875354 - 07/24/22 01:09 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics
July 23, 2022 - Microdose

Breaking news and a win for psychedelic advocates as the DEA has reversed its decision to schedule 5 psychedelic substances.

Back in January, we reported that the DEA was moving to criminalize new psychedelics (War on Drugs Update: DEA To Expand List of Banned Psychedelics).

Despite their medical potential, the DEA announced it was adding 5 drugs to Schedule 1 of the Controlled Substance Act, the most restrictive legal class of drugs that is reserved for substances with a high potential for abuse and no currently accepted medical use. The five compounds, all tryptamines, are:

    4-Hydroxy-N,N-diisopropyltryptamine (4-HO-DiPT),
    5-Methoxy-alphamethyltryptamine (5-MeO-AMT),
    N-Isopropyl-5-Methoxy-N-Methyltryptamine (5-MeO-MiPT),
    N,N-Diethyl-5-methoxytryptamine (5-MeO-DET), and
    N,N-Diisopropyltryptamine (DiPT).

But there was considerable public pushback, and advocates and researchers took the opportunity to plead their cases at the DEA’s public hearing. And it seems to have worked as the DEA has withdrawn its proposed rule.

Here are comments and info from Graham Pechenik, patent lawyer who served as co-counsel on this case.

This is great news not only for this specific case, but for the future of psychedelic reform, as the DEA seems to be listening to the experts…

    5 psychedelic tryptamines, kept off schedule I?
    DEA scheduling proceedings—terminated:

    “DEA is withdrawing the proposed rule…canceling the public hearing & terminating the pending hearing proceedings”
    Unprecedented outcome—a result of extraordinary lawyering by Matt Zorn
    https://nitter.kavin.rocks/calyxlaw/status/1550590216301191169
    — Graham Pechenik (@calyxlaw) July 22, 2022


    Congratulations to challengers @TactogenInc & @MindstateDesign
    With huge thanks also to expert statements from @AndrewChadeayne & @ProfDavidNutt
    I’m grateful to serve as co-counsel w Matt, as science & common sense carry the day

    Government notice: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D9X0_V0bnz2_DM6z4tQMJ3aEMu4aNz-w/view

      — Graham Pechenik (@calyxlaw) July 22, 2022

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Re: Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics [Re: veggie] * 1
    #27875377 - 07/24/22 01:30 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

holy shit
drugs win drug war indeed. Can these be bought on the clearnet? Are any of them particularly interesting?

Edited by Dr. Funtime (07/24/22 01:35 PM)

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Re: Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics [Re: Dr. Funtime]
    #27875385 - 07/24/22 01:37 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

"A result of some extraordinary lawyering by Matt Zorn." Somebody get that lawyer a beer...er some psychedelics...

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Re: Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics [Re: BoomBoom] * 1
    #27875406 - 07/24/22 01:53 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Quote:

BoomBoom said:
"A result of some extraordinary lawyering by Matt Zorn." Somebody get that lawyer a beer...er some psychedelics...




no relation to John Zorn


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InvisibleveggieM

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Re: Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics [Re: Dr. Funtime]
    #27875433 - 07/24/22 02:21 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

The video is totally unrelated to the article. But, man, that is a beautiful piece of music.

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Dr. Funtime said:
Can these be bought on the clearnet? Are any of them particularly interesting?



5-MeO-MiPT looks interesting from a page on the TrippyWiki. A web search for these items brings up several RC companies, but who is to say if they are reliable and legit.

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Re: Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics [Re: Dr. Funtime]
    #27875463 - 07/24/22 03:03 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Dr. Funtime said:
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BoomBoom said:
"A result of some extraordinary lawyering by Matt Zorn." Somebody get that lawyer a beer...er some psychedelics...




no relation to John Zorn







Had no idea how much I needed to hear this, totally changed my mood for the day, thank you!

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Re: Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics [Re: BoomBoom]
    #27875527 - 07/24/22 03:48 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Educated activists are the answer. Education!

Amazing indeed


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Re: Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #27875619 - 07/24/22 04:46 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

It’s amazing how knowing the subject at hand blows holes in the “authorities” story.  Almost universal no matter the topic the story being pushed is pure bullshit..


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Re: Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics [Re: Amanita86]
    #27875623 - 07/24/22 04:51 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Democracy, and more so a Democratic Republic fails abysmally when the populous is uneducated. Laws are created based off of emotion instead of intellect. Example; someone does something dumb while high, and the masses scream for it to be made illegal, meanwhile educated persons stay quiet, and bills pass.

Education is the key to the future of a truly successful representative government. All else will fail in time.

This is just an awesome example of how it works, when executed properly.


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Re: Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics [Re: Dr. Funtime]
    #27875656 - 07/24/22 05:23 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Dr. Funtime said:
holy shit
drugs win drug war indeed. Can these be bought on the clearnet? Are any of them particularly interesting?




5-meo-mipt is probably best known, i hear it's good, my vendor had it in freebase form last year. DiPT is mostly known for auditory hallucinations. The others are fairly obscure and I wonder why they were included. As long as DEA hasn't caught on to the grey market lysergamides I'm happy, I live in Canada but as soon as something gets scheduled in USA vendors here lose 90 percent of their market and wont carry it anymore


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Re: Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics [Re: veggie]
    #27875702 - 07/24/22 06:00 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Wow.. the DEA actually listened to the experts? :takingnotes:

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Re: Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics [Re: Dr. Funtime]
    #27875906 - 07/24/22 09:11 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Dr. Funtime said:
Quote:

BoomBoom said:
"A result of some extraordinary lawyering by Matt Zorn." Somebody get that lawyer a beer...er some psychedelics...




no relation to John Zorn





Nice taste! Love Zorn.


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Re: Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics [Re: GenericHero]
    #27876113 - 07/25/22 02:17 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

:heart:

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Re: Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics [Re: veggie] * 3
    #27876130 - 07/25/22 02:45 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Was hoping for,

LSD
Ketamine
mushrooms
DMT
Peyote

One can always hope.:shrug::beer:

I don't like being in the system and time in a cage and fines and probation and background checks for jobs.  It REALLY SUCKS!  Yet I love these "drugs".  As they are called.:finger:  What the justice system put me through.

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Re: Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics [Re: Dr. Funtime]
    #27879561 - 07/27/22 05:14 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Dr. Funtime said:
holy shit
drugs win drug war indeed. Can these be bought on the clearnet? Are any of them particularly interesting?





I'm not sure, but I was curious about DiPT- it's fascinating, but it hasn't been legal as long as I've had means to keep it safe. I'm glad they're not scheduling MiPT; although MiPT would have horrifying abuse repercussions, IMO, and I have met people IRL who had "urges" for it, and upon learning I had some, very aggressively tried to purchase it from me, which terminated our friendship.

Personally, I recommend you keep your drugs to yourselves. Also, don't abuse moxy. It's interesting, but it plays too many notes to be something you should choose to treat like some more forgiving classical drugs. Would be weird to go Syd Barrett over something you should have been moderate with. Low doses are interesting, enough.

Respectfully,

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Re: Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics [Re: 999]
    #27880012 - 07/28/22 01:36 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Never hard of these "drugs" and will never touch them.
usually what's legal in the USA is garbage such as alcohol and tobacco.

Legalize psilocybin mushrooms, LSD, DMT and 5meo DMT, mescaline, then we will call it a win.

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Re: Breaking News: DEA Reverses Decision to Ban 5 Psychedelics [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #27881294 - 07/29/22 03:47 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

What about bath salts or any chemical?  Sticking with my five.  Don't give a shit like anyone knows what those are besides a few on the shroomery.  They sound great though!:lahey:

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