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OfflineWezaa
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Had my first bad trip. Having issues sleeping the night after.
    #27876047 - 07/25/22 12:05 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Hey all.

I've been messing around with shrooms for a while now. Increasing the dosage to have a more intense trip. The most I usually get is a little bit of bright colour in my vision and tingly feeling and I become giddy and happy. That was upto 5g.

I took 6g on saturday evening and I was totally fucked.
It started out fine and then I realized something was not right.
When I closed my eyes they opened, when I opened them they closed. When I tried to cough I would take a deep breath, when I tried to breath I would yawn, when I tried to breath I would cough.
I tried to goto the toilet and I couldn't control my bodily functions. I couldn't push to poo or piss.
It was incredibly disconcerting and made me panic and feel a great amount of regret...

Fortunately my wife was with me and totally sober and was able to comfort my until I got past it. Approximately an hour and a half later.

That night I didn't sleep very well, nothing too new for me.
Last night however (Sunday night) I slept terribly. I was seeing images of a game I had been playing that evening with my wife. (I almost never dream) and when it felt like I was about to go unconscious, I would subconsciously start taking big, deep breaths that would wake me back up.
This continued throughout the night and now I'm the morning I feel terribly toward and have a headache.

Please, if you have any similar experiences and/or advice on this situation, please let me know.
Thank you


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Re: Had my first bad trip. Having issues sleeping the night after. [Re: Wezaa]
    #27876057 - 07/25/22 12:25 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

How were the mushrooms harvested? We’re they properly harvested/fresh/preserved? I always feel great the next day. The trip itself sounds fairly normal honestly. Like very normal to be honest with you. I always feel like I’m gonna piss or shit myself and I always am having to take deep breaths like annoyingly constantly. Not being able to correctly command body functions.. not quite so much. Maybe a tiny bit. But I have only ever done 5 grams or less. I’ve certainly never heard of anyone feeling any lasting physical affects days later though. Pretty sure that’s not normal. Hope someone who actually knows what they are talking about/ has heard of this will reply though. IMPO this lasting affect seems not directly related to the drug itself but idk.

Would love to hear some thoughts on this.


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Re: Had my first bad trip. Having issues sleeping the night after. [Re: Lofetospoon9]
    #27876073 - 07/25/22 12:56 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

The were APEs that I grew and harvested myself. Have been stored in a zip lock bag, inside a sealed jar with a silica packet in the jar.


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Re: Had my first bad trip. Having issues sleeping the night after. [Re: Wezaa]
    #27876738 - 07/25/22 02:11 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Hey dude, how are you feeling now? 6g of dry APEs is quite the dose haha. Once I have done 4 grams of PE and it had my mind illuminate an entire dark room as if the lightbulbs were on and I was in heaven. The most APE I have taken is 1g made in tea and that wasn't a very good trip.

For me, APEs are not very pleasant. They give me a very strong mental high that is too overwhelming. It's like a giant hammer hitting my head constantly. That night I took the 1g, my body kept shaking, CEVs flooded hard but nothing I could make sense of. It felt like I was dying, and I was scared to death. I figured if I was dying, then I might as well relax just a tiny bit haha. Knowing I will be fine in the morning, but the anxiety was through the roof, it set me in this weird limbo of uncomfort and twitchy body motions.

I woke up in the morning feeling hammered from the night before. I was very tired but sighed form relief that I was just fine. You will be just fine. I suggest meditating, exercising, and doing whatever to get you through it. I feel you are a bit too shaken up at the moment, so you will need to let the bad experience pass through you and accept that it was just a mishap. If issues still persist, then go talk to a professional please. Maybe try some other cubes lol.

I wish you well.


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Re: Had my first bad trip. Having issues sleeping the night after. [Re: shroomerhumor]
    #27877446 - 07/26/22 05:18 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Hey. I'm doing better now and had a better night last night without the breathing issue.

I am a very big guy. 6ft2 and like 150kg+, so I've been having ti take big doses to get the effects.
I've done 5g APE a few times and it wasn't super intense and was an enjoyable experience.
That 1 extra gram just sent me over the edge I guess and I was fucked.
I also took it in tea form.

About 3g seems to be a good dose for me for a mood enhancer.
But I have depression and was experimenting to try a d improve my mood long term with a high dose. But guess that won't be happening now. Lol. Wouldn't like to have that experience again.


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Re: Had my first bad trip. Having issues sleeping the night after. [Re: shroomerhumor]
    #27888919 - 08/03/22 10:07 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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shroomerhumor said:It felt like I was dying, and I was scared to death.




Correct me if I'm wrong but that was your ego not wanting to let go. In those moments you must consciously and genuinely let go.


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Re: Had my first bad trip. Having issues sleeping the night after. [Re: Wezaa]
    #27891766 - 08/05/22 08:08 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

First of all there is nothing to fear about any of it, not the difficulty sleeping, the imagery from the night in question, the linkage between intent and actuality in the body, i.e. so called voluntary control...

We are associative minds with bodies that make it possible, and what that means is that we learn from the moment we are born (and before) how to wriggle, and bring things to our mouths, and eventually to walk and read and write and drive cars, and have jobs etc. it all builds associatively upon what is already there in mind, and it all unfolds in feelings and associated ideas and reactions as the context changes.

All of that is associative learning, with "appropriate" associative reflexes in the context that we sense meaningfully.

The key here is that it is pretty much all about conditioned/perceptive reflexes, conditioned by life and for life, so familiar that we seldom even question it.

Once in a while however, the idea of will takes hold and - well that kind of screws things up a bit because all of that up until now was a pleasant (sometimes troubling) series of experiences in which your reflex behaviours came out which fit in contexts that you experienced alone and with others doing the same. The idea of will however is put separate from context. will is out of synch with the reflex nature of mind and the contexts of experience.

so that night you got really stoned and willed your eyes open and they closed, willed your toilet affairs and they did not accommodate you - you freaked out.

being very stoned, sensations spanned across several contexts and reflexes failed to ensue as the layered contexts did not seem to match what you were accustomed to, or maybe what you wanted already happened and slipped away, or maybe your eyes just seemed to still be open after they already closed and vice versa. (very common)

when you are stoned the main single key of experience is frame stacking (the layering up of sensations and mental contents lasting longer than usual) with time dilation/distortion effects.
the best you can do is relax into what is happening and be gentle with your approach.

Will at the best of times is elusive, but when stoned it just seems to go backwards - as if each thing you think of also invites the associated worst case scenario that you are reflexively imagining.

I say "forget that type of challenge - will... pshaw!"

you basically have nothing to fear and will get to sleep when you feel it is good enough to do so just as it was when you were younger, and as it will be when you are old.


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