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smalltalk_canceled said: id say we can differentiate them now, tho id like to see more of the cube super strength natalensis growth, how do these look like/act?
The P. Natalensis:Natal Super Strain i acquired im getting my first flush on brf pf tek cakes (also got a shoebox almost ready) has the thick blobs, snake like fruits... when i ingested the overlay that formed invitro it had the hallmark pronounced empathogenic like feels off only 1 gram.

Gonna stockpile everything i get for upcoming campung excursion. Will report back
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I've been searching for a solid answer on this. I wonder why this vendor has a plate labeled Natalensis and the listing says natal super strain. Then the description says this. Maybe It's just confusion?
"Psilocybe natalensis is a unique magic mushroom species recently discovered in South Africa. While similar in appearance and growth parameters to Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe natalensis is an entirely different species. Natalensis produces elongated, cream colored, heavy hitting fruiting bodies."
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DoctorBenway said: The P. Natalensis:Natal Super Strain i acquired... when i ingested the overlay that formed invitro it had the hallmark pronounced empathogenic like feels off only 1 gram.
Yes, I'm ordering some! Thanks for the confirmation. That's just what I was hoping for.
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They look really cool too!
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Those are some crazy looking pictures.. that plate looks nuts
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DoctorBenway said: The P. Natalensis:Natal Super Strain i acquired... when i ingested the overlay that formed invitro it had the hallmark pronounced empathogenic like feels off only 1 gram.
Yes, I'm ordering some! Thanks for the confirmation. That's just what I was hoping for.
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They look really cool too!
Thanks friend, these cakes were inoculated less than a month ago btw, birthed 2 weeks after noc (woulda been fine at 1 week but had vacation) and then 12 days after birthed til they started pinning. I hear they can take awhile to mature and trick you by stopping growing for a day then continuing, by far my favorite to watch thus far and ive been at this hobby off and on for 20+ years. Excited to see the shapeshifting it does moving onward.
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Interesting... I streaked some plates, but now I'm tempted to try some cakes too 🤔 time to break out my print
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Rotnpins] 1
#27874256 - 07/23/22 02:37 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Ya i got a few experiments going on atm, trying to produce more of the tissue i peeled off of the brf cakes (which i wouldnt suggest doing pre final harvest cuz those didnt recover) on brown rice grain so no vermiculite clings to the inner side of the tissue, trying to see if i can cultivate the tissue invitro then dunk and put back in jar to reform another layer etc. Also noc up some sterilized jiffy which colonized 100% in a week, just broke some of that up in a small tuperware to see if it does anything lol. I love how experimental this species is yet, its awesome that after 2 and a half years worth of study here its still in this crazy stage of figuring stuff out. Lovin it
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That's a first for me! I've seen "Green Snakes" here, but today I opened up this shoebox that I didn't have time to care for in the last few days, and to my surprise: "Blue Snakes"!

Natalensis never cease to amaze!
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Melgo] 1
#27874335 - 07/23/22 03:46 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I declare photoshop!! na those look cool as hell though. Wonder how they'll look dried I'd like to see that as well if possible. Can't wait to grow and crack into my nat print(s)
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: WyoMX] 1
#27874588 - 07/23/22 07:58 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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so nats are separate from cubes but natalensis and nss are the same…got it!
here is a cool nat I ate earlier
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: WyoMX] 1
#27874877 - 07/24/22 01:19 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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WyoMX said: I declare photoshop!! na those look cool as hell though. Wonder how they'll look dried I'd like to see that as well if possible. Can't wait to grow and crack into my nat print(s)
no ps, mine looked the same. blue snakes
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77] 1
#27874912 - 07/24/22 03:35 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Ya I was just joking, there was a member here who tried to call someone out for using photoshop to add deeper bruising on some pictures. A couple people broke the pictures down and explained why they weren't shopped but it's just funny to me now. I'm sure quite a few people didn't get it but I liked it. I mainly commented cuz they look cool as hell
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DoctorBenway said: .... I love how experimental this species is yet, its awesome that after 2 and a half years worth of study here its still in this crazy stage of figuring stuff out. Lovin it
word! every shoebox from spore seems like an abstract painting, a coral reef, a univers of its own.. really wild!!
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: WyoMX] 5
#27875200 - 07/24/22 10:27 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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WyoMX said: Ya I was just joking, there was a member here who tried to call someone out for using photoshop to add deeper bruising on some pictures. A couple people broke the pictures down and explained why they weren't shopped but it's just funny to me now. I'm sure quite a few people didn't get it but I liked it. I mainly commented cuz they look cool as hell
I got what you meant, you made me chuckle 
And to thank you for this! I took photos of the dried harvest:

I consumed 40 grams fresh of these this morning (in tea form) and that wasn't very strong. It was pleasant, but I defo need more with these.
I still haven't had a meaningful experience with Nats (I'm upping the dose each trip), but I have to say that there is no anxiety whatsoever with these so far. It's non-existent on the body: I don't feel like I've poisoned myself like I can feel at the beginning of a trip sometimes; no stomach discomfort. They feel really "gentle" on the body & the mind.
I'm looking forward to my next trip with them.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Melgo]
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Melgo said: I consumed 40 grams fresh of these this morning (in tea form) and that wasn't very strong. It was pleasant, but I defo need more with these.
I still haven't had a meaningful experience with Nats (I'm upping the dose each trip), but I have to say that there is no anxiety whatsoever with these so far. It's non-existent on the body: I don't feel like I've poisoned myself like I can feel at the beginning of a trip sometimes; no stomach discomfort. They feel really "gentle" on the body & the mind.
I'm looking forward to my next trip with them.
It's weird how much the potency of these seems to vary, I can't even handle high doses of cubes but with nats I seem to need more. Or at least be able to handle more and have a much better experience. I had two really good trips with these, one 5g dried and the last one 8g. Hopefully you can find your sweet spot cause they can get really amazing!
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Forrester]
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Forrester said: It's weird how much the potency of these seems to vary, I can't even handle high doses of cubes but with nats I seem to need more. Or at least be able to handle more and have a much better experience. I had two really good trips with these, one 5g dried and the last one 8g. Hopefully you can find your sweet spot cause they can get really amazing!
Thanks for your input mate, I really appreciate it
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Melgo]
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well, this makes me reconsider a few statements that i had considered general consensus, about natalensis being quite stronger on average than cubensis.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Melgo] 2
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Two outdoor trashcans of Nats in 100F++ temps.


Nat big boy growing out the bottom of the trashcan, not giving AF about an inch of pea gravel, low humidity, did I mention 100F++!
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chris77 said: well, this makes me reconsider a few statements that i had considered general consensus, about natalensis being quite stronger on average than cubensis.
That certainly seems to be the opinion of the majority, and I do work with multispore so genetics may be a factor, but I've done them more than a couple times from different grows, and the potency didn't seem to vary much.
I dunno we have much to learn still about this species and need many more experience reports!
As always, obviously start low and work your way up to find how they affect you specifically. One wouldn't want to assume they need high doses of nats just because they take high doses of cubes, and then end up being blown away. They're much more forgiving in the experience but paranoia and overdoing it is certainly still possible!
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Forrester]
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chris77 said: well, this makes me reconsider a few statements that i had considered general consensus, about natalensis being quite stronger on average than cubensis.
That certainly seems to be the opinion of the majority, and I do work with multispore so genetics may be a factor, but I've done them more than a couple times from different grows, and the potency didn't seem to vary much.
I dunno we have much to learn still about this species and need many more experience reports!
As always, obviously start low and work your way up to find how they affect you specifically. One wouldn't want to assume they need high doses of nats just because they take high doses of cubes, and then end up being blown away. They're much more forgiving in the experience but paranoia and overdoing it is certainly still possible!
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chris77 said: well, this makes me reconsider a few statements that i had considered general consensus, about natalensis being quite stronger on average than cubensis.
That certainly seems to be the opinion of the majority, and I do work with multispore so genetics may be a factor, but I've done them more than a couple times from different grows, and the potency didn't seem to vary much.
I dunno we have much to learn still about this species and need many more experience reports!
As always, obviously start low and work your way up to find how they affect you specifically. One wouldn't want to assume they need high doses of nats just because they take high doses of cubes, and then end up being blown away. They're much more forgiving in the experience but paranoia and overdoing it is certainly still possible!
My personal take is this: we are all working with a species new to cultivation, we are working with something not far removed from nature yet. When you acquire a mss of a cubensis cultivar its likely generated from decades worth of cultivation and thus things like potency, appearance and grow parameters are dialed in to have a lot less variation whereas with natalensis being "new to science in 1995" the genetics are yet to be tamed and produce a much more varied experience both in cultivation and intoxication...
years ago i had a close friend that we both cultivated and consumed together frequently, we had a running joke/competition about seeking out the "ugliest mushroom" because we believed those would offer the craziest trip.
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