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Barnaby
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That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin addiction
#27872811 - 07/22/22 12:10 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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FREE TIBET! Lol. Keep Taiwan as its own country, if they attack with how valuable it is to everyone on this globe shit is about to get interesting with wars. Not these fake money grubbing arms selling endless ones. When one ends, hey, Russia is destroying the Ukraine. Let us send billions over there. Military industrial complex at its finest. War is peace, peace is war, 1984.
No just a lot of greedy people with little or no conscience at all.
God, I thought wilderness "retreats" like Tom Hanks sent one of his kids to were rough. Whole different thing in China. What is the worth of a China Man? Very little throughout time and the U.S. has treated them very poorly through time but this is the now and when we are living and alive. Not woke, just take in information from various sources and make my own thoughts and decisions in life in every aspect.
Chinatowns in S.F. and Chicago are amazing. That sense of happiness and community and have always treated me so well and with respect. As have I.
China and what it wants in the world is not one I would want to live in. That is a war to me worth fighting. Not 15 years of this last one and the Ukraine. Just my opinion just like everyone else on this website or any for that matter. One has to dig a little deeper nowadays for some semblence of truth. The 80's growing up were such a more simple time. At the same time the Cold war was never on my mind but I was a kid.
Whatever, on with life. And I got scolded for using the word, whatever. Like YOU HAVE TO CARE ABOUT WHAT I CARE ABOUT AND THINK! Nope. We all have our self will and self thought and make our decisions throughout life for me based on that. Many just give their will, thoughts, and souls if they could to other people. I am not one of those people.
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: Barnaby]
#27872834 - 07/22/22 12:28 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Chinatowns in S.F. and Chicago are amazing.
There is a truly amazing amount of worthless crap for sale in the SF China town , I imagine Chicago is the same .
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Barnaby
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: Psilynut2]
#27873232 - 07/22/22 05:49 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Just don't buy fent from them or even travel there. Lead is wonderful. I am talking not about the tourist traps and the food and authentic people. Is easy to see through the garbage IME.
Even ordering shit from Amazon and if it says, made in China, I think this electronic device, among other things, is this is going to last at best six months. Always go with Sony from Japan or Samsung from Taiwan.
My new 4k camera from China. Garbage. But have learned how to take a loss. It is how I view it just getting it. Will not again with any electronics.
And God bless the people in China using any electronics. They have the most sophisticated and complicated facial commie citizen under the CCP. That is top notch even jaywalking, always on camera and every person endlessly under that level of governance, wow.
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: Barnaby]
#27873259 - 07/22/22 06:04 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Huawei phones are actually quite superior to Samsung/Apple. Unfortunately I was forced off of mine by the 5g network, and now I use an inferior phone with far slower processing speeds and crappier battery life..
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: chopstick]
#27873466 - 07/22/22 10:02 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Who made that phone for you, the Muslims? I feel so bad for you. Just a joke, just a joke.
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: Barnaby]
#27873483 - 07/22/22 10:20 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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My bad...
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: Barnaby] 2
#27873738 - 07/23/22 05:06 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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In the last 40 years 3/4 of the entire world's population living in extreme poverty, close to 800 million people, were lifted out of extreme poverty by the CPC.
Apart from a couple of territorial disputes this was achieved relatively peacefully.
China has a land mass similar in size to the U.S. but only 12% of the land is arable. Still, they manage to be self sufficient in food production.
They've used capitalism to encourage tree planting and are undertaking the largest conservation project in history in an attempt to halt the encroaching Gobi desert(which they have achieved) and have planted forests equivalent in land mass to that of western Europe.
Around 500 million people, from all sectors of the population engage in tree planting every year which has resulted in China planting more trees than the rest of the world combined.
Over 13% of the vehicles in China are electric.
China and India continue to blow the rest of the world away when it comes to STEM graduate numbers.
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: Stable Genius]
#27873746 - 07/23/22 05:25 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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India does very well with education. China's STEM graduates are more questionable. I met this Chinese girl that was a PHD student at my school when I was in my master's program. We dated a bit and it obvious that her qualifications (to get a free PHD ride) were not even remotely close. She woefully underprepared. But if you talked to her she had every qualification and accolade known to man, how could she be flunking out?
Anecdotal that, but in my university Chinese students were like 60% more likely to drop out than any other group. They were also like 4 times as likely to get caught cheating either via plagiarism or other means. In my theater style business class 6 Chinese kids were thrown out and expelled in one week. The entire class had to take a 3 hour course on cheating and the consequences.
That said the CCP has done some impressive things even if the west doesn't agree with the means. The agreement is different there.
I do think things like OP's post will eventually force a cultural shift there. People will tire of getting jailed for playing video games.
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: Stable Genius]
#27873758 - 07/23/22 05:51 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Stable Genius said: Still, they manage to be self sufficient in food production.
chinas not even in the top ten for food security. Kuwait has better rankings .
so.. no.. they dont why you being a used car salesmen for china?
US bad. anything else? good. gotcha
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: mushboy]
#27873763 - 07/23/22 06:00 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, China is like the worlds largest food importer.
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: Stable Genius]
#27873765 - 07/23/22 06:03 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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this ukraine mess could mean famine for hundreds of millions in china alone.
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they manage to be self sufficient in food production.
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: mushboy]
#27873817 - 07/23/22 07:15 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Inauspicious youth! Gaming is as bad as the fentanyl which we flood the US with!
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: Stable Genius]
#27873843 - 07/23/22 07:50 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Stable Genius said: In the last 40 years 3/4 of the entire world's population living in extreme poverty, close to 800 million people, were lifted out of extreme poverty by the CPC.
Apart from a couple of territorial disputes this was achieved relatively peacefully.
China has a land mass similar in size to the U.S. but only 12% of the land is arable. Still, they manage to be self sufficient in food production.
They've used capitalism to encourage tree planting and are undertaking the largest conservation project in history in an attempt to halt the encroaching Gobi desert(which they have achieved) and have planted forests equivalent in land mass to that of western Europe.
Around 500 million people, from all sectors of the population engage in tree planting every year which has resulted in China planting more trees than the rest of the world combined.
Over 13% of the vehicles in China are electric.
China and India continue to blow the rest of the world away when it comes to STEM graduate numbers.
I acknowledge some remarkable accomplishments from China both in absolute terms and relative to previous communist societies, but "3/4 of the entire world's population"? I don't think so.
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: Brian Jones]
#27873862 - 07/23/22 08:26 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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China wipes its ass with the basic human rights and freedoms of its people but I heard they have cool phones and EV's.
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The government of the People’s Republic of China (PRC), guided by a totalitarian ideology under the absolute rule of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), deprives citizens of their rights on a sweeping scale and systematically curtails freedoms as a way to retain power. People in China cannot practice the religion or belief of their choice. They cannot express their opinions openly or form or join groups of their choosing without fear of harassment, arrest, or retribution. Members of minority groups are subject to mass arbitrary detention, Orwellian-style surveillance, political indoctrination, torture, forced abortions and sterilization, and state-sponsored forced labor.
https://2017-2021.state.gov/chinas-disregard-for-human-rights/index.html
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Beijing’s repression—insisting on political loyalty to the Chinese Communist Party—deepened across the country. In Hong Kong, following six months of large-scale protests in 2019, the Chinese government imposed a draconian “National Security Law” on June 30—its most aggressive assault on Hong Kong people’s freedoms since the transfer of sovereignty in 1997. In Xinjiang, Turkic Muslims continue to be arbitrarily detained on the basis of their identity, while others are subjected to forced labor, mass surveillance, and political indoctrination. In Inner Mongolia, protests broke out in September when education authorities decided to replace Mongolian with Mandarin Chinese in a number of classes in the region’s schools.
Chinese authorities’ silencing of human rights defenders, journalists, and activists, and restrictions on the internet, also make it difficult to obtain accurate information about Chinese government policies and actions.
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2021/country-chapters/china-and-tibet
Since I work in San Francisco I've met many Chinese people who have left and the shit they tell me always makes me say " OMG! thats fucking terrible I'm so glad you got out of there. " .
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: Psilynut2]
#27874007 - 07/23/22 10:42 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I think that might be the immediate future of the world, though. Authoritarian right ideology is rising everywhere.
Just read an opinion piece in the NYT that looked at Italy as a portend of things to come for the west. And, they kind of have been. Silvio, now the far right, which actually openly calls itself a fascist party, has 20% of the vote.
We're already looking at waves of social restrictions in the US, which will almost certainly be followed by enforced conformity to the state ideal, especially if Desantis or similar get into the WH, and the GOP manages to lock in power in congress. Even without that, the GOP SCOTUS is going to roll back rights whenever it can.
I've had this weird thought experiment about liberty for a while now, and I was never quite sure how to put it into words. Still not sure, really. Anyway, the point is that as technology progresses, and specifically, as complexity increases, you will need more and more people carrying out basic functions that have next to no input on the operations of the machine. It's sort of like a Navy ship--you have hundreds if not thousands of people that are under the command of a captain who is the ultimate authority and tyrant aboard the ship. Same thing in corporations: your boss is the ultimate authority and tyrant over what you do at work.
Is it possible that the need for useful yet non-executive human labor to maintain a machine of sufficient complexity will create an authoritarian society regardless?
I guess I'm expanding past the "classic" authoritarian definitions here, and implicating other, not strictly authoritarian but authoritarian in practice situations. Stuff like your choice of transportation. (US perspective) You can choose a car or you can choose a different car. There is no way to rely on a primary form of transportation other than a car or otherwise gas powered vehicle (moped) in the US. The country is built for cars, so walking/biking is, outside of very specific cases which you basically need to plan in advance, not possible. Public transit is nonexistent for the same reason.
Our society is great at giving you a choice between 37 flavors of one option. It's an illusion of choice.
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: mushboy]
#27874059 - 07/23/22 11:24 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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mushboy said: this ukraine mess could mean famine for hundreds of millions in china alone.
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they manage to be self sufficient in food production.

There's a Chinese restaurant on every corner in the USA dewd!
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: Stable Genius]
#27874532 - 07/23/22 07:08 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: I acknowledge some remarkable accomplishments from China both in absolute terms and relative to previous communist societies, but "3/4 of the entire world's population"? I don't think so.
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Stable Genius said: In the last 40 years 3/4 of the entire world's population living in extreme poverty
It may have been slightly confusing the way I worded it but I did say extreme poverty Brian.
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: mushboy] 1
#27874541 - 07/23/22 07:17 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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mushboy said: this ukraine mess could mean famine for hundreds of millions in china alone.
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they manage to be self sufficient in food production.

That's what is said at the 1.00 min mark 
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#27874549 - 07/23/22 07:25 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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mushboy said: why you being a used car salesmen for china?
Do you have a problem with me pointing out China's success stories?
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Re: That is amusing China putting youth into bootcamps for overusing gaming or/and the internet and comparing it to heroin ad... [Re: Psilynut2] 1
#27874570 - 07/23/22 07:45 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Psylinut2 said Since I work in San Francisco I've met many Chinese people who have left and the shit they tell me always makes me say " OMG! thats fucking terrible I'm so glad you got out of there. " .
I've met Chinese living here and they are critical of the government as well.
Strangely enough I know an American living here that thinks the U.S. government is an evil empire.
Same with the Greeks and Fijians and Italians and Lebanese I've spoken to. For some reason people that don't like the way things are run tend to leave, who would have thought? 
I had a friend that spent over 10 years in China, he loved it. My Canadian friend that's currently in Ukraine spent 4 years there, he has mixed reports about China.
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