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climate change…have we got it all wrong? an observational report by a Marine Biologist * 3
    #27868807 - 07/19/22 11:43 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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We’ve been encouraged to think that climate change is just caused by the excess anthropogenic emission of carbon dioxide and methane, and that the impacts can be mitigated by reducing our emission of the greenhouse gases. This is not going to work…..

The entire world has over-focused on greenhouse gases to the detriment of nature. Climate change is a simple equation, what goes into the atmosphere must be removed. You can reduce carbon emissions, which will help, but unless there is a mechanism to remove the carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and produce oxygen it is not going to work. Even if we became carbon neutral by 2030, atmospheric carbon dioxide will still pass 500ppm and oceanic pH will drop below pH7.95 and most life in the world’s oceans will be dead by 2050.

The following ‘story’ relays our observations of the environmental degradation of the Atlantic Ocean, Caribbean Sea, and some of the Windward islands. We very much hope this observational account helps to flag the dangers of tunnel visioned solutions on emission reduction and how this may in fact be a primary barrier in addressing climate change.

GOES Project research is undertaken on a blue ocean sailing vessel “Copepod” (see www.Goesfoundation.com) Having crossed the Atlantic to the Windward Islands of the Caribbean from Scotland, via Portugal, the Canaries, Cape Verdes, photographic evidence of an environment catastrophe is unfolding, and sadly, we are also able draw parallels to other geographies and ecosystems. This report will be followed by a detailed reported include the observed data from 13 sailing vessels and over 500 data points across the Atlantic Ocean.

We are biologists and perhaps we think differently to other professions, but it is our view that land-based nature will benefit from extra carbon dioxide in the environment – it is after-all plant food. We also believe that humanity could adapt to global warming, extreme weather changes, and with enhanced plant growth humans could even flourish from an abundance of new resources in the form of plant life.

However, it is our view that humanity will not survive the extinction of most marine plants and animals (known as marine plankton). One simple fact seems to get ignored - marine plankton form the root of our food chain and are the basis of the life support mechanism for the planet, but they have, to all intents and purposes, been completely ignored in the conversations to address climate mitigation. COP26 in November 2021 was the first time that Oceans had been included. This is all very odd when you consider that millions and millions of dollars/Euros spent on peer reviewed literature shows we have lost more than 50% of all life in the oceans, but from own plankton sampling activity and other observations, we consider that losses closer to 90% have occurred, and these are due to chemical pollution from, for example, wastewater and not climate change.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4099018






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Our empty oceans: Scots team’s research finds Atlantic plankton all but wiped out in catastrophic loss of life

Scientists have discovered a catastrophic loss of life in our oceans, we can reveal.

An Edinburgh-based research team fears plankton, the tiny organisms that sustain life in our seas, has all but been wiped out after spending two years collecting water samples from the Atlantic.

The landmark research blames chemical pollution from plastics, farm fertilisers and pharmaceuticals in the water. Previously, it was thought the amount of plankton had halved since the 1940s, but the evidence gathered by the Scots suggest 90% has now vanished.

The scientists warn there are only a few years left before the consequences become catastrophically clear when fish, whales and dolphins become extinct, with grave implications for the planet. In the report, the researchers from the Global Oceanic Environmental Survey Foundation (Goes) state: “An environmental catastrophe is unfolding. We believe humanity could adapt to global warming and extreme weather changes. It is our view that humanity will not survive the extinction of most marine plants and animals.”

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Re: climate change…have we got it all wrong? an observational report by a Marine Biologist [Re: thealienthatategod] * 1
    #27869721 - 07/20/22 12:00 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Scary :uhoh:

It's good to ring the alarm bell. But let's not all assume that we are already dead and life as we know it is doomed.

https://www.arstechnica.com/science/2022/07/no-the-oceans-are-not-empty-of-plankton


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Re: climate change…have we got it all wrong? an observational report by a Marine Biologist [Re: Northerner]
    #27870420 - 07/20/22 02:11 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

i wonder what will happen once it is peer reviewed?  what do you think?

clearly a shift in ocean pH has dire consequences.


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Re: climate change…have we got it all wrong? an observational report by a Marine Biologist [Re: thealienthatategod] * 3
    #27870465 - 07/20/22 03:07 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

To reproduce the same result will be difficult, so peer review is unlikely anytime soon. It's not a new or unforseen problem tho, scientists have been warning about it for decades. In the late 80's and early 90's I learned about it in school, they seem to have dropped this science topic from the education system though.

People have been getting so rich and comfy they didn't care... now the party is close to over.

Imagine if someone with real money decided to address this problem as a priority. It's not as glamorous as spaceships on Mars, but it's far more real.


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Re: climate change…have we got it all wrong? an observational report by a Marine Biologist [Re: Northerner] * 2
    #27870655 - 07/20/22 05:17 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

why do you think this science topic was dropped from the education system?

it seems if a younger generation isn't even aware of this problem, then how can they come up with solutions to address it?

going to mars, leaving the planet, bc this planet has problems, may be akin to someone trying to look outside themselves for a solution when the solution is within themselves.



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Re: climate change…have we got it all wrong? an observational report by a Marine Biologist [Re: thealienthatategod] * 4
    #27870752 - 07/20/22 06:37 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I would bet money that lobbyists, merchants of doubt and uncomfortable truths are most likely the reason the subject was quietly dropped. There's big money involved. You probably know about the original food pyramid lie children were taught for generations, which was a marketing plan implemented by lobbyists and not health advice. Information can be withheld as well as falsified to mislead.

I think the writing is on the wall now. It's 60 years of ignoring climate science and our ecosystem has already entered a new mass extinction event. It's just how far we are going to push it that will show whether or not we die as well.


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Re: climate change…have we got it all wrong? an observational report by a Marine Biologist [Re: thealienthatategod] * 2
    #28181219 - 02/10/23 05:00 PM (11 months, 10 days ago)

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. . . to be honest, climate changes scare me because it may cause serious consequences.




does have significant consequences 

99.99% of all living species that have ever existed have gone extinct and will never return (although we might resurrect the Woolly Mammoth?!)  The five mass extinction events during Earth's history were driven by climate change and each wiped out an overwhelming majority of species living at the time.

Ordovician Mass Extinction
Devonian Mass Extinction
Permian Mass Extinction
Triassic-Jurassic Mass Extinction
Cretaceous-Tertiary (K-T) Mass Extinction

The evolution of mammals and flowering plants occurred in large part due to a massive catastrophic loss in biodiversity. Most dinosaurs disappeared suddenly about 65 million years ago, due to climate change. It's not a stretch to say that without climate change, human evolution would not have occurred. It's actually a fascinating perspective most people don't appreciate. 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mass-extinctions-tied-to-past-climate-changes/


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Re: climate change…have we got it all wrong? an observational report by a Marine Biologist [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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Re: climate change…have we got it all wrong? an observational report by a Marine Biologist [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #28205478 - 02/26/23 01:11 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

The climate is changing; it's true. People have been knowing about it for ages because it was predicted. But it's not right to say that changes are caused by people and our activities on earth. That is very interesting information. And to be honest, climate changes scare me because it may cause serious consequences. Maybe we will be able to adapt to them, and maybe not. I read some news about it almost every day, but I still can't say that I'm that experienced in that topic. Climate change, for me, is like something unreal; I know that it's happening, but I just can't realize it. And I'm glad that one of the term papers I need to write is decided to it because I can learn something new. I've already found this source https://eduzaurus.com/free-essay-samples/climate-change/ which provided me with different examples on that topic, and I've read two. They turned out to be really informative, and now I want to read more to see what I can write, and then I'll look for more information or articles. And I hope that after all that I'll become more experienced in that issue.


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