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InvisibleCreonAntigone
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They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex
    #27867693 - 07/18/22 01:27 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

To me it seems like this would hardly be considered a medical disorder. But they label it 'hypoactive sexual desire disorder', HSDD, and now I saw an ad on reddit for an injection for that, Vyleesi.

I read the directions, which say to use 45 minutes before the desired sex.

Something tells me things will have to be very wrong to think a drug is the best way to handle this.


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: CreonAntigone] * 3
    #27867777 - 07/18/22 02:27 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I guess taking the drug would then be predicated on wanting to want to have sex. Seems like it borders on a bit of a paradox almost... :strokebeard:


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: psi]
    #27867944 - 07/18/22 04:09 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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I guess taking the drug would then be predicated on wanting to want to have sex. Seems like it borders on a bit of a paradox almost... :strokebeard:




They define 'Hypoactive desire syndrome' as when you don't have the desire for sex, but this distresses you - eg, you want to have the desire for sex.

Seems like a bit of a contradiction for sure.


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: CreonAntigone]
    #27868396 - 07/19/22 12:18 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Have you never lost your libido or had a partner who did? I know on my 50s I wish my desire and ability to have sex was stronger. Every other day is fine, but I’m too young for this lower level that crept in in the last 4 years.


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: CreonAntigone]
    #27868849 - 07/19/22 12:10 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I could see this as a good measure to counteract loss of libido from antidepressants.

Seems to be a common enough side effect that it could benefit women who are in relationships.


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: CreonAntigone]
    #27869679 - 07/19/22 10:52 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Thats interesting.

I heard that Viagra actually makes women horny. Perhaps it works on a similar principle :strokebeard:


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: CreonAntigone]
    #27871439 - 07/21/22 11:11 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I'd encourage you to read the label as although clinical trials produces statistically significant results, the efficacy is questionable, in my opinion.  I'd be skeptical the drug works all that well.


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: badchad]
    #27871495 - 07/21/22 12:14 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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I'd encourage you to read the label as although clinical trials produces statistically significant results, the efficacy is questionable, in my opinion.  I'd be skeptical the drug works all that well.




Thank you! Always gripes me when statistically significant is equated with effective.


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
    #27871519 - 07/21/22 12:33 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I’m a statistician by training and profession, and the 2 reports of efficacy are statistical significance and effect size. Big pharma seems to rely very heavily on the former. Effect size is absolutely crucial in evaluating wether or not it’s a useful drug.


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: BlueAndOrange]
    #27871821 - 07/21/22 03:59 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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I’m a statistician by training and profession, and the 2 reports of efficacy are statistical significance and effect size. Big pharma seems to rely very heavily on the former. Effect size is absolutely crucial in evaluating wether or not it’s a useful drug.




So, for a novel drug, how does one know when an effect size is meaningful?

For this drug, they had subjects rate questions on a scale of 1-5.  When I've worked with statisticians, its just proposed.  They'll say something like: "We think a change of 0.5 points is a meaningful difference, so yeah..."


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: badchad]
    #27871912 - 07/21/22 05:24 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

They don't need a pill for that, all she needs is to do is liberally apply blowjob to her lips and she'll be ready in about 5 minutes.:mindblown:


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: badchad]
    #27872043 - 07/21/22 07:30 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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I’m a statistician by training and profession, and the 2 reports of efficacy are statistical significance and effect size. Big pharma seems to rely very heavily on the former. Effect size is absolutely crucial in evaluating wether or not it’s a useful drug.




So, for a novel drug, how does one know when an effect size is meaningful?

For this drug, they had subjects rate questions on a scale of 1-5.  When I've worked with statisticians, its just proposed.  They'll say something like: "We think a change of 0.5 points is a meaningful difference, so yeah..."




I’m not sure the best way in such a subjective study, I work in a different area of research, but you need to establish some kind of meaning to scale changes. That would mean your pre/post survey questions should include questions about wether the people taking the drugs feel their lives are meaningfully better to find the efficacy level of meaningful effect size. .5 means nothing in a vacuum.


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: CapSlinger]
    #27886262 - 08/01/22 11:46 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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They don't need a pill for that, all she needs is to do is liberally apply blowjob to her lips and she'll be ready in about 5 minutes.:mindblown:




Or a bottle of whiskey. Much cheaper than anything you can get from big pharma. Usually more fun too


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: ManianFH]
    #27887800 - 08/03/22 08:29 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I was going to say didn't they always have a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex, called alcohol. They didn't even have Long Island Iced Tea when I was young. It just keeps getting easier.


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: CreonAntigone]
    #27894167 - 08/07/22 09:46 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

This is a bit confusing to me.

My wife started a new birth control a couple of months ago that KILLED her sex drive. I mean, it was 100% gone. Nothing would turn her on. Still, we had sex every day until her sex drive returned (we still do, of course). The effects were so pronounced that she wouldn't even get wet. For about a week, we used lube for vaginal sex. The inverse has also happened. She's been horny, we had anal and I came pretty quick. I wasn't turned on after cumming but, she cums better with a vibrator while I fuck her ass, so I got hard again and just kept going for her benefit. The point I'm getting at is that even if you're lacking a sex drive, you can still have sex with your partner because you recognize their needs.

I think this medicine would be for treating women that aren't just low on sex drive, but are experiencing an aversion to sex. I think it'll lead to women having their sexual needs unmet (maybe they weren't turned on because their partner isn't attractive or may be too vanilla). It'll also lead to lesbians not coming to terms with their sexualities for longer, making them miss out on fulfillment.

Who knows, though? I guess we'll have to wait and see.


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: Darwin23]
    #28107560 - 12/21/22 03:46 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

They offer a O shot for orgasm & pleasure
Goes in or by your clitoris. I don’t recall exactly.
When I have a sexual partner I might try it just to try. Might be amazing


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28107574 - 12/21/22 04:04 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Tell us more about this shot.


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: BlueAndOrange]
    #28107596 - 12/21/22 04:28 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Your bloods drawn & they inject it in your clit, labia & g spot.
Supposed to be amazing!!!’


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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: CreonAntigone] * 1
    #28107745 - 12/21/22 05:57 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)



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Re: They now make a drug for women who don't have enough interest in sex [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28107923 - 12/21/22 08:08 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I don’t have a clitoris but my partner does. I’m doubtful she’d do this just to try it. But she has exceptional orgasmic response. I imagine if you have any of the conditions this is reported to help, that might be a different scenario.


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