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InvisibleYarry
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Bulk Help Needed
    #2786729 - 06/12/04 01:31 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Hey guys i looked through all the faq's and couldnt find anything that answered all my questions so i need some advice or links to the following topics:

- poo only bulk grow
- how to pasturize
- how to pasturize only poo
- also if anyone knows a cheap online source for straw
- poo and straw, which tek has worked the best for you?
-poo and straw outdoor garden

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Re: Bulk Help Needed [Re: Yarry]
    #2786734 - 06/12/04 01:34 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You can find a poo only bulk grow or two in the bulk-related stuff on this site.

As for how to pasteurize, heat your material in an oven (essentially, bake it) at about 170 degrees for a few hours. This works for straw or poo.


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Re: Bulk Help Needed [Re: jonneill]
    #2786737 - 06/12/04 01:36 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

so thers no need for soaking it in lime at 180ish? thats what ive been told previously. just wanna make sure i dont fuck this up. and all the bulk stuff i read said to add straw


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Re: Bulk Help Needed [Re: Yarry]
    #2786745 - 06/12/04 01:39 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Don't take my word for it or anything, but there's no reason you need to add straw. Most people seem to do it because it adds good structure to your substrate, which may help the mycelium colonize it faster and perform better generally. Some people swear by straight poo, and are adamant that it has a property of resisting contamination. Others swear by the the yields that straw can produce and the relative ease with which it can be dunked. Others say dunking straw is pointless...

And lime is just to balance the pH, you don't need to add it until after pasteurization as far as I know. A lot of people use peat moss which is acidic and so add lime to get the pH back into a good neutralish range which mushrooms like.


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Re: Bulk Help Needed [Re: jonneill]
    #2786752 - 06/12/04 01:41 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

is there any spefica tek youd recommend? ive done cakes and stuff before no prob but jus wanna make sure if im gonna use a few cakes on this i wanna know they dont go to waste


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Re: Bulk Help Needed [Re: Yarry]
    #2786777 - 06/12/04 01:55 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Like I said, don't take my word for it, but this looks nice:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...=&fpart=all


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Re: Bulk Help Needed [Re: jonneill]
    #2786795 - 06/12/04 02:04 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

another question, is cow manure (that you can by for plants and stuff) a suitable substitute for fresh crap? or no?


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Re: Bulk Help Needed [Re: Yarry]
    #2786849 - 06/12/04 02:26 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

If by "FRESH" you meant freshly TAKEN from a feild then yes you want fresh manure.

If you can get some manure form one of these....

an old large horse. :heart: :smirk: :thumbup:





See the white stuff in the poo thats good. :thumbup: Nature has been working on this poo :thumbup:

You want OLD, dry crusty , full of white fuzz stuff poo. :smirk: thats the "GOOD SHIT" :thumbup:


So find a horse or run out to a feild there is no time like the present(dont forget a large bag)

For your info.....I have watched poo from Worm Cow and this Horse for awhile now and the old horse poo is amazing, the mycelium cant get enough of it :grin: :mushroom2: :heart:



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Re: Bulk Help Needed [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2786864 - 06/12/04 02:29 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

so manure sucks for what i need it?


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Re: Bulk Help Needed [Re: Yarry]
    #2786900 - 06/12/04 02:43 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Composted cow manure works great -- that's the stuff most stores sell.


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Re: Bulk Help Needed [Re: Sev]
    #2786912 - 06/12/04 02:49 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Alright question number (no idea) whats the best kind of straw? or does it matter? should it be green or brownish?


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Re: Bulk Help Needed [Re: Yarry]
    #2786914 - 06/12/04 02:50 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

NO , but you dont want FRESH manure.

And if you can get it yourself, PERSONALLY I havent ever found "quality" crap,I have only found "composted" cow poo that seems to SUCK.

Old poo thats been sitting for months and is full of that white fuzz is perfect, but if you cant get that straight out of the bag manure (worm, cow) will work.

But at least make sure its been composted for awhile, if it hasent you will have to "leach" it.


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Re: Bulk Help Needed [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2788315 - 06/12/04 06:56 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

the store shit contammed on me the other day.


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Re: Bulk Help Needed [Re: mycoguy]
    #2788816 - 06/13/04 12:33 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Out of many bags of compost, composted manure, and dehydrated manure, I have only come across one bag with at least desirable results. A few other times, it was barely okay, and most failed badly. I even noticed differences between batches from the same company. Bagged shit sucks (unless your lucky)at least in the N.E. USA!!

Find some horses. If the shits not dry, lay it in the yard for a few days until it is...


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Re: Bulk Help Needed [Re: Yarry]
    #2788904 - 06/13/04 01:02 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

What you want is wheat or barley straw. It should be a kinda golden brown. It shouldn't be hay, and it shouldn't be alfalfa, which is almost always green.


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