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OfflineGr0wer
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Any teks to test potency?
    #2786723 - 06/12/04 01:29 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Does anyone know of any teks to test potency? Any books with teks? i know my weed book has some teks to test THC,CBD ect judjing by colors and stuff, any of oyu guys have shroom books like that?


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Re: Any teks to test potency? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2786815 - 06/12/04 02:12 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

eat em?


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Re: Any teks to test potency? [Re: Yarry]
    #2786895 - 06/12/04 02:42 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I knew i shoulda mentioned no simple tests like that. Im looking for a numerical or analog test so i can side by side compare samples potency.


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Re: Any teks to test potency? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2786908 - 06/12/04 02:47 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

there was something i read about the severity and quickness of the bluing when you harvest them. IE while still fresh make a clean cut all the way through the stem and see how fast it blues. Im not sure if this is true or not but its worth finding out.


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Re: Any teks to test potency? [Re: Yarry]
    #2787477 - 06/12/04 12:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

TLC. This is the way to do it.
You can also do an extraction with dilute acetic acid, then save the crystalline product (if you ever get one). Then do the same to a different mushroom and see how much of the same material you have got.
Thats about it I tink


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Re: Any teks to test potency? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2787617 - 06/12/04 01:32 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Take one gram and measure pupil dialation in the exact same lighting for each sample.There are devices LEOs use to measure dialation.The more dialation from identical dosage the greater the potency.
Just a quick thought :wink:
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Re: Any teks to test potency? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2788086 - 06/12/04 05:07 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

get a bunch of dogs.. and..


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Re: Any teks to test potency? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2788152 - 06/12/04 05:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

isolate the compound, wheight it and do the math for concentration.
but i think most of the connoisseurs eat them... :wink:


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Re: Any teks to test potency? [Re: felixhigh]
    #2790756 - 06/13/04 09:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

jusging form my trip off a generous 1/2 eight of aborts and a one 6.5 fruitbody i would say the bleung is a real good way to gudge potecncy :laugh: I had white arrows with red and black all pixilated coming together infront of me, I was looking itno my new deck and looking at the grain, dam that was cool :laugh: anyways, yea i guess just eating em will do it for me :laugh: ill buy some books anywasy with the hops of finding a meathod.


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Re: Any teks to test potency? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2790913 - 06/13/04 10:54 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Is this for real?

Obviously TLC or mass spectroscopy -- otherwise for a very quick and dirty procedure look up keller's reagent. (You can do titrations to compare potency.)

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Re: Any teks to test potency? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2794139 - 06/15/04 08:49 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Well it's not a TEK but it is somer Data on potency on a few strains and types.
The researchers are pretty credible so take a look at this post:
http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=10441


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Re: Any teks to test potency? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2801409 - 06/17/04 06:02 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Bluing from all experience isnt a good way to tell potency of any mushroom. There are non-active mushrooms which bruise blue. Ive had active mushrooms which almost didnt bruise at all, no matter how much handling you did to them, but were still very potent.


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Re: Any teks to test potency? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2803189 - 06/17/04 07:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It seems most cubensis grown off of millet, and other various grains, then cased with poo or straw, or a mix of both, are way more potent than BRF cakes. Mostly due to the crazy amount of nutrient difference. The amount of nutrients also greaters the amount of mushrooms and the size. There are also people that add tyrpamines(sp?) to the substrate, and then another time I remember a guy using caffine in substrate for an interesting effect.


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Re: Any teks to test potency? [Re: MycoCakeEater]
    #2807538 - 06/19/04 12:42 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

heck man, you are what you eat! I've been playing around with grains substrates for spawn. I went to CC and realizing the fast colonization I mixed that with some nice straw to help break it up. It made some real nice growth, rizo's al over the jar with the 3 strains i knocked up. Today i made a mix of WBS and CC 2:1, but no straw because i ran out.

What are tyrpamines?


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Re: Any teks to test potency? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2808292 - 06/19/04 06:08 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Gr0wer said:
What are tyrpamines?




I have no idea.
But tryptamine is the amine form of tryptophan, a natural amino acid. Tryptamines are substituted forms of Tryptamine. The most famous forms, including tryptamine alkaloids, would be seratonin, melatonin, psilocybin, DMT and other synthetic forms of prescription drugs and LSD.

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Re: Any teks to test potency? [Re: @cro]
    #2809677 - 06/19/04 10:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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But tryptamine is the amine form of tryptophan




No, it's the decarboxylated form -- they are both amines.

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Re: Any teks to test potency? [Re: MycoCakeEater]
    #2810501 - 06/20/04 05:51 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i currently have afoaf who knows a guy who is using coffee in his karo noks,soaking grain,and has it growing off coffee grounds. NBD just thought id mention it.no more contams than normal.

so far...rumor has it hes casing some now


hope he lets me see

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