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InvisibleHartford
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When do cells become a baby?
    #27865205 - 07/16/22 06:44 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Let's see how far we've come in our understanding of what constitutes a human life.
At what point do cells become a baby?
You may choose only one


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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: Hartford] * 6
    #27865211 - 07/16/22 06:48 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Like two, maybe three years of age.


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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27865219 - 07/16/22 06:51 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Like two, maybe three years of age.




How did you come to that conclusion?

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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: Hartford] * 3
    #27865222 - 07/16/22 06:52 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Seems like that’s the time they start getting their shit together


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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27865228 - 07/16/22 06:55 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Seems like that’s the time they start getting their shit together




So do you also support euthanizing those who don't have their shit together?

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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27865247 - 07/16/22 07:06 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Cells taken from my body can be cultured in a petri dish. Thus, they would be human and alive. They would be human life. They are not dead and they are human.

Edited by VP123 (07/16/22 07:07 PM)

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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: VP123]
    #27865269 - 07/16/22 07:21 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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VP123 said:
Cells taken from my body can be cultured in a petri dish. Thus, they would be human and alive. They would be human life. They are not dead and they are human.




For the purposes of this discussion, we're defining human life as an individual with the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: Hartford]
    #27865274 - 07/16/22 07:25 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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VP123 said:
Cells taken from my body can be cultured in a petri dish. Thus, they would be human and alive. They would be human life. They are not dead and they are human.




For the purposes of this discussion, we're defining human life as an individual with the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.



Oh, then probably around 18y/o, but these days it's more like 25.

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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: Hartford]
    #27865276 - 07/16/22 07:27 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Are you implying that a cloned human being would not be an individual with the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?


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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #27865286 - 07/16/22 07:33 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Are you implying that a cloned human being would not be an individual with the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?




Not at all. The question was posed in regards to natural conception. I would consider any test tube to represent the mother if considering a test tube baby.

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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: Hartford]
    #27865295 - 07/16/22 07:47 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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For the purposes of this discussion, we're defining human life as an individual with the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.




A human life is not the same as a person. I guess you meant to say a person in your OP.

Who grants those rights to the individual? Does a brain dead human has such rights? Or why are they then disconnected from life support?

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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: VP123]
    #27865731 - 07/17/22 05:03 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I voted for ability to survive outside the womb. However for many hundred years if not more, it was considered acceptable to terminate a pregnancy before the mother felt movement.


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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: Lynnch] * 1
    #27865734 - 07/17/22 05:10 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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VP123 said:
Cells taken from my body can be cultured in a petri dish. Thus, they would be human and alive. They would be human life. They are not dead and they are human.




For the purposes of this discussion, we're defining human life as an individual with the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.




Probably best to just say right to life and forget the liberty and pursuit of happiness. The last two don't even apply in theory, till you're an adult.


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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: Hartford]
    #27865738 - 07/17/22 05:16 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Seems like that’s the time they start getting their shit together




So do you also support euthanizing those who don't have their shit together?




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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: Hartford] * 2
    #27865743 - 07/17/22 05:25 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I picked heartbeat :flowstone:

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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27865746 - 07/17/22 05:27 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Lynnch said:
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Hartford said:
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VP123 said:
Cells taken from my body can be cultured in a petri dish. Thus, they would be human and alive. They would be human life. They are not dead and they are human.




For the purposes of this discussion, we're defining human life as an individual with the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.




Probably best to just say right to life and forget the liberty and pursuit of happiness. The last two don't even apply in theory, till you're an adult.




Not sure how that post got arranged. I said that, not Lynnch.


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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: Brian Jones] * 2
    #27865757 - 07/17/22 05:45 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Its reaklly very simple. Two shroom spores grow out, the growths touch, combine genetics and dikaryotic tissue ensues: the genetic identity of the mushroom now is established.

When the sperm enters the egg and their genetics combine, that zygote is the single cellular version of that person.

it starts there. If you dont mess with that, yopu get a shroom or a baby


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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #27865771 - 07/17/22 06:12 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Uncle Clarence should have some statement about masturbation any day now. If you multiply the number of guys jerking off in a day by the number of sperm, the waste of life is staggering.


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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #27865836 - 07/17/22 07:37 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Define baby.

Because most adults are babies by behavior and action.

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Re: When do cells become a baby? [Re: mushboy]
    #27865845 - 07/17/22 07:43 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Define baby.

Because most adults are babies by behavior and action.




An infant human being with the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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