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Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me
    #2786461 - 06/12/04 12:09 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

The guidelines for starting a new post here are:
If you have any general questions about psychedelics, post them here. I guess this is general enough. Here goes:
My girlfriend has a long history of drug abuse. She has been drug free for years now. I would love her to trip with me but she views hallucinagens as drugs and WILL NOT DO THEM under any circumstances. Lord knows I've tried. I tried everything from "You'll laugh and have the best time of your life" to the ever popular "God made them, not man, so they're not drugs" etc.....
For Christs sake, she didn't think anything about doing heroin on a daily basis, but shroomies, no fricken' way. Go figure!!
Any ideas on this issue. I need a new tripping partner and she'd
be fine if only I could convince her.


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: beatlebangboy]
    #2786470 - 06/12/04 12:13 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe someone could recommend a book for her to read


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: beatlebangboy]
    #2786471 - 06/12/04 12:13 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

1. They are not addictive. 2. She can't shoot them up.


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: beatlebangboy]
    #2786473 - 06/12/04 12:14 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

hmm yeah probably best not to try so hard to convince her, then she finally gives in because she's sick of hearing your shit then has a bad trip and blames you, besides a number of other moral objections i won't even get into. i convinced my girlfriend to smoke salvia <<<bad fuckin idea<<< she's cool so she wasn't mad really but she wasn't to happy with me either. the seed is planted, she knows if she ever wants to trip you'd be more than happy to with her and get the nessary supplys, i'd just wait till/if she asks, but do as you please :stoned:


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: John]
    #2786484 - 06/12/04 12:17 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

A mild dose of shrooms is a bit easier on a first timer than salvi.
As far as her having a bad trip, I'll be there. I've helped ALOT of people through bad trips and I certainly wouldn't let anything bad happen to her. I know how to handle her.


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: beatlebangboy]
    #2786501 - 06/12/04 12:23 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

While it's true shrooms aren't addictive, getting high is. Lets say she has a great time on shrooms and then remembers how great it is getting high and then she's doin heroin again. If you love or atleast respect your girlfriend then don't push the issue of her tripping.


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: beatlebangboy]
    #2786512 - 06/12/04 12:27 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

A mild dose of shrooms is a bit easier on a first timer than salvi.




well yeah, she has tripped with me countless times and done every other drug and a few rc's so she wasn't really a first timer but i don't think anyone is really ready for trying salvia for the first time anyway. but... if you ask, she says no, is there really anymore to it? there shouldn't be, at least imo. begging people to take a powerful psychedelic isn't right i don't think, maybe she just dosn't feel stable enough to take them, maybe she dosn't trust you, maybe she dosn't trust herself? just spectualation and the could be a million other reasons, like i said do as you please, it's just something i wouldn't do and something i'd reccomend not doing to others as i am to you now :stoned:


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: beatlebangboy]
    #2786513 - 06/12/04 12:27 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

A lot of drug addicts are people with addictive personalities. This means they can get psychologically addicted to a drug even if it's not physically addictive. Try to keep that in mind, ok?


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: discoabe]
    #2786527 - 06/12/04 12:32 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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While it's true shrooms are addictive



Mushrooms aren't addictive. I never push her into anything or even try to. I've known her for 10 years. And I think that maybe once a year if she does shrooms with me, it would not make her want to become a heroin addict again. She only too well knows the consequences of that. Other than some weed, the most I trip now a days is 2-4 times a year. Neither of us abuse drugs at all, but a once a year celebration would be nice.


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: silversoul7]
    #2786528 - 06/12/04 12:32 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

tolerance is going to stop you from truly abusing mushrooms, that's the least of his/her worries. i mean it's not like you're up all night tripping start coming down and look around and see what you can pawn off for your next dose.


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: discoabe]
    #2786569 - 06/12/04 12:47 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

discoabe said:
While it's true shrooms aren't addictive, getting high is.




I see the mistake, you edited it. Cool!!!


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: John]
    #2786571 - 06/12/04 12:48 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

phenethyl said:
tolerance is going to stop you from truly abusing mushrooms, that's the least of his/her worries. i mean it's not like you're up all night tripping start coming down and look around and see what you can pawn off for your next dose.



Yes, but it could be that it'll get her wanting other drugs again. I know a former meth addict who had relapses triggered by acid or ecstacy.


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: silversoul7]
    #2786590 - 06/12/04 12:55 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

There is NO way she would relapse into drugs at all. I'm not on her ass at all to do this. I hardly ever asked her (not at all as much as I ask her to have sex with another woman and me) I don't push the issue, as a matter of fact, this whole issue is between the shroomery and me. I'm only asking this just in case someone out there is creative enough to come up with an idea for me to convince her. I'm not the DEVIL trying to drag her down a dark path. I just want to experience a different dimention with her. O.K.?


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me *DELETED* [Re: beatlebangboy]
    #2786638 - 06/12/04 01:04 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: KreeprCeepr]
    #2786695 - 06/12/04 01:17 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Just concider this edited


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me *DELETED* [Re: beatlebangboy]
    #2786711 - 06/12/04 01:25 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: KreeprCeepr]
    #2786744 - 06/12/04 01:38 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Concider this edited too.


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: beatlebangboy]
    #2786845 - 06/12/04 02:25 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Tell her what she wants to know about them and let her make the decesion. If she wants to consider tripping she will at least seek out the facts.


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: beatlebangboy]
    #2787366 - 06/12/04 11:30 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah i wish i could do the same i think it would be really beautiful experience for the both of us. My gf doesnt really do drugs, we smoked weed together once and i have never seen anyone so paranoid in my life. So getting her to smoke pot again will be a challenge and getting her to take acid/mushrooms will be an impossibility...maybe she would let me take them with her, that could be pretty special too i think.


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: splifftoter]
    #2793066 - 06/14/04 07:22 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

You have disaster in your future if you succeed in "talking her into it". Think about it - when it comes to this stuff, the mindset is everything. Resistence is at the nature of making her hate them forever.

My wife is the same. She says no over and over. What do I do? I just keep asking everytime I take some.

I chew up a shroomy, and say - "wanna join me this time?" No? ok. maybe next time.


And maybe, maybe sometime in the future -SHE will ask YOU to take a trip with her. (Concert, some attraction she wants to see, some folks she wants to visit) - and when she does - you tell her about how you want her to join you on your trip. Maybe a deal will work out. But in the end, she must make the decision with a positive mindset, and she MUST desire it.


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: Grizzy]
    #2797619 - 06/16/04 02:42 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

You know, today I discussed this post with her and I know that she will NEVER trip with me. You know what? I love her to the end of the earth and I don't give a crap if she ever trips with me. As long as she let's me be me. That's O.K. with me.


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: beatlebangboy]
    #2798614 - 06/16/04 12:22 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Oh shit i had a good idea to help you out...give her one of Leary's books to show her that its not all about dirty Hippies getting fucked up and such...maybe thatd work with my gf better because she has no real drug experience...but i talked to mine about this last night and she seemed intrested...maybe we can take a small dose of shrooms together at the dead show.
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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: splifftoter]
    #2799800 - 06/16/04 06:06 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

bealtebangboy - I truly wish I could meet your girlfriend, friend.

I have been successful, more than once - at having a buddy's lady or wife WANT to join us. Notice I never talked any of them into anything, but after spending a day listening to me talk of the trips - they, themselves, made the decisions to WANT to try it. Heck, at this point, right now - my buddy's wife wants to shroom MORE than he does - ha ha. No kidding. And she used to be all against it.


It's not that I tell them - "hey check this out." It's more like the way they observe what it has done to me, and my spirit and mind. I have a very extensive resume, professionally. I have conducted large business on a hell of a caliber for a young guy like myself. I have always been in GATE programs and ahead of the curve in school. I am a major outdoors lover, but I'm also a hunter and fisherman. I think that what happens is they see that I'm not trying to talk them into, but rather sharing with them the secrets of my success.

And most of all, I think this is probably the #1 reason:
I am, in myself - a walking example that flies against the speeches of all the anti's. I'm stable, nice, loving, good-looking(sorry, but I think it does count), spiritual, and "normal". I say normal because I'm not a tweaker. I'm not a wacko, I don't act funny, and I don't smell or anything. I'm a normal guy, and you would not NEVER EVER guess that I would even think of taking shrooms, let alone having done acid hundreds of times, and still looking to score tabs today... ha ha.

If you live anywhere in the western states, I'd like to ask you and yours to join my wife and I over some coffee or a beer sometime. Let's share stories of life and wonder. Who knows - it just may be the influence she needs to see to make herself WANT to be experienced. After all, I'm sure she and my wife have much in common - as my wife pretty much doesn't want to do it. They can share WHY they don't want to, and then my wife can tell her WHY it was important for her to try with me, and what additional joy, truth, and love it's brought to our lives.


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: beatlebangboy]
    #2800620 - 06/16/04 10:59 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Noone should be ever peer preasured into taking a psychedelic. Set, setting, and attitude are crucial. If she will not trip, but lets you alone within reason (don't stay fried constantly) leave be and she may come around, particularly if you let her be with you during a trip while she is sober. If she doesn't it is not important; couples do not have to have all the same interests. If she doesn't like or want to understand your practice and she will not ever do so then drop her like a hot potato as it will be an unending source of pain for you. I have been dealing with this issue for 20 years of marriage. Keep Leary's books away...she'll know your a drugged up lunatic if she reads that tibetan book of the dead spinoff.


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #2801188 - 06/17/04 02:48 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Not trying to be a dick but she actually found the book intresting...hell i could careless if she thinks im a drugged up crazy, she will still love me anyway...if she finds it intresting im not going to keep her from it...


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: Grizzy]
    #2801950 - 06/17/04 11:57 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Here's the outcome, like I said she will NEVER trip with me. That's cool because it wouldn't be enjoyable if she spent 5-8 hours paranoid wishing to be straight. And I wouldn't want her to do that. That happened to me once after eating 3 1/2 grams of black opiated hash. I was beggin the good lord above to be straight and told god that I'll never do it again. I never did.
She has been with me once while tripping in the Keys. It was more of an issue with me than her. What I mean is that she was gung ho for me to have a great time. I, on the other hand, was constantly thinking to myself: Oh, she is watching everything I'm doing. Oh, she must think I'm going to turn retarded. Oh my god, she thinks shroomies are bad. It was more of a head trip for me than for her. And I got a tad paranoid. She just took me in a fetal position and hugged me till I felt better. Now that's a woman!!!!
So for now, I'll just enjoy shroomies with my shroomie friends and share love with my girlfriend (wife).
Thanks for all your input. Especially the book idea. I'm gonna get the books for myself.


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: beatlebangboy]
    #2802064 - 06/17/04 12:46 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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beatlebangboy said:
You know what? I love her to the end of the earth and I don't give a crap if she ever trips with me. As long as she let's me be me. That's O.K. with me.




Now that sounds like something she can truly find nirvana with.
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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: beatlebangboy]
    #2802153 - 06/17/04 01:29 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

> You know, today I discussed this post with her and I know that she will NEVER trip with me.

We should respect her wishes not to trip the same way we would want her to respect our wishes to allow us to trip.


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Re: Convince My Girlfriend To Dose With Me [Re: Seuss]
    #2803590 - 06/17/04 10:34 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I think the guy has it squared away just fine.

And I totally understand him. Hell, everytime I shroom, I wish my wife was with me. Because otherwise, we're in different places in the universe, and she can't relate to what I'm experience. So - I start to feel a little apprehensive about her. But just like you said, if I need her - she'll cuddle with me until man's last day if need be.

Cheers to you and her. May you two enjoy each other forever.


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