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Offlineevilchipmunk
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Slight fuck up.
    #2786319 - 06/11/04 10:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I bought a case of pint jars, thinking they would be OK for the PF tek.. then realized that HALF pint jars are the recommended size. I would just do a grain tek instead, but unfortunately I don't have a PC yet.

So, should I:

A. Do the PF tek in the pint jars normally and hope for the best.
B. Do the PF tek, and only fill the jars half way (so the cakes are still half-pints).. would that work?
C. Fractal sterilize some grains.
D. Wait until I get enough money for a PC. (Might be a while.. and I don't want my syringe to 'expire' in the mean time.
E. ??? Any other ideas?

I'm no good at making decisions. Whatta ya think, guys?


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Re: Slight fuck up. [Re: evilchipmunk]
    #2786323 - 06/11/04 10:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

the most simple,and most productive,i'm assuming,just double the recipe!


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Re: Slight fuck up. [Re: evilchipmunk]
    #2786324 - 06/11/04 10:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

1/2 water?just add 2 halfs.just do that and the recipe will be fine


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Offlineevilchipmunk
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Re: Slight fuck up. [Re: tnecseda]
    #2786334 - 06/11/04 10:48 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Wouldn't they take too long to colonize in pints, though? :o Thought I read somewhere that anything bigger than 1/2 pint was too slow.


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Re: Slight fuck up. [Re: evilchipmunk]
    #2786341 - 06/11/04 10:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

if the jars are tapered its no problemto have them be pint sized... just will take a bit longer to fully colonize. Just innoculate it in the middle as well as on the outsides to speed that up. You can wait for the PC cause a spore syringe should last months if not years so thats not a problem either. Grain is for doing casings which is better, but if you dont feel like casing dont use grain. I say double the recipe as tnecseda said as long as the jars are still tapered so the cake slides out without breaking the jar (unless thats not a problem to you too)


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Re: Slight fuck up. [Re: evilchipmunk]
    #2786349 - 06/11/04 10:54 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

pints will work fine for pf cakes evil c. although they will take longer, about twice as long as a half pint. i have seen some in my time and they do well if you are not in a big hurry.

also i would not fill them up just halfway unless you have a really long needle on your syringe, otherwise you would just be spraying the spore solution all over the verm layer.

good luck.


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Offlineevilchipmunk
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Re: Slight fuck up. [Re: Strange_Design]
    #2786362 - 06/11/04 10:59 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

The jars are wide-mouth, berto.. that's what ya meant right?

And thanks guys.. I will just go ahead and double the recipe then.. Not in a terrible big hurry myself, but more colonization time= more chance of contams, and that's all I'm worried about. Another thing, can I grind up some wbs and use that instead of brf in the pf tek? Or would that not work without a pc?


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Re: Slight fuck up. [Re: evilchipmunk]
    #2786415 - 06/11/04 11:24 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

think of it this way,more food for the mushies or more mushies,or just a regular flush,but more more food for future flushes.


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Re: Slight fuck up. [Re: tnecseda]
    #2786432 - 06/11/04 11:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Cool, thanks! How bout that wbs flour thing? Good idea, bad idea?


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Re: Slight fuck up. [Re: evilchipmunk]
    #2788271 - 06/12/04 06:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

well, a PC is recomended with whatever you use.... boling the jars might work but i bet theres more bad stuff in bird seed than organig flours....


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Re: Slight fuck up. [Re: berto23]
    #2788377 - 06/12/04 07:47 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

shoulda kept the receipt. why not just go buy some 1/2pt jars? a dozen runs me like 6$ It seems like you would spend more than that on more BRF to fill up the 1pt jars
-dr0


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Re: Slight fuck up. [Re: evilchipmunk]
    #2788383 - 06/12/04 07:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You're fine, you'll have a bigger flush don't worry about it.  I shot up 6 1/2pint ball jars / rye substrate with pink oyster spores, and 6 more with a rye / millet combo substrate and they were fully colonated within 72 hours and cased 24 after that.  I also shot up a 1/2 gallon jar with 4ccs of PO spores on a millet / rye combo, 7 days later it's 85% colonized.  That growth I might add is significantly better than most of my 1/2 pint kerr jars on millet.  :wink:

edit: you definately want a PC


Edited by com (06/12/04 07:54 PM)


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Re: Slight fuck up. [Re: hydr0420]
    #2788549 - 06/12/04 09:57 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

hydr0- I won't be using more brf.. just less jars. ;P  and I would return/exchange them, but being the dumbass that I am, already opened them and poked holes in one of the lids.  Doh!   Oh well..

"you definately want a PC"

I know.  I'll have one sooner or later.  (hopefully sooner..)  I can't seem to find any cheap ones that are in good shape.  I'm a bit leery of buying used ones.. don't want it to blow up on me.


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Re: Slight fuck up. [Re: com]
    #2789582 - 06/13/04 10:56 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

No way that your jars fully colonized in 3 days :smirk:, I have been told it takes a least 2 or 3 days for germination.

Can someone explain to me why it is ok to boil BRF but with grains a PC is considered more important? I never really understood that


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Re: Slight fuck up. [Re: holio1]
    #2789660 - 06/13/04 12:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

holio1 said:
Can someone explain to me why it is ok to boil BRF but with grains a PC is considered more important? I never really understood that




This is because grains can contain bacterial endospores deep inside the kernels, hard little bastards to destory and protected by the grain. You could kill them with soak and boil few hour wait and reboil, but that tends to turn grain to goo. So soak, drain and PC is the best way to go.


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