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OfflineTyroneBiggums
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Shit! did i just ruin my jars?
    #2786067 - 06/11/04 09:10 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

OK i just steamed 8 jars in a pot/lid and put a (single) sheet of tinfoil over the top then screwed on the lids. As i was doing this for another set i found that the underside of the lid with holes poked in made little holes through the foil. I didnt have any tape over the holes either. on these new ones ill double wrap them and put some (duct?) tape on top. did i just ruin 8 jars though? luckily i didnt innoculate yet...


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Re: Shit! did i just ruin my jars? [Re: TyroneBiggums]
    #2786086 - 06/11/04 09:15 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

i did the exact same thing and even let extra water get in the jars... they turned out fine so its probably wont be a problem... doing that doesnt make contams it just might give too much water, but i havent had that be a problem either. You should be fine.


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Re: Shit! did i just ruin my jars? [Re: TyroneBiggums]
    #2786102 - 06/11/04 09:21 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

Whoa... you put on the foil and then screwed on the lid?

I'm just a newbie at this myself, so maybe I got this wrong, but I thought the foil is suppossed to go on the outside of the lid.


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Re: Shit! did i just ruin my jars? [Re: Reject]
    #2786122 - 06/11/04 09:30 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

Reject, you are correct =]


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Re: Shit! did i just ruin my jars? [Re: Reject]
    #2786131 - 06/11/04 09:32 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

nah man foil goes under so water doesnt get through check ---> http://www.shroomery.com/index/par/7919/pag/2 ... anyway im glad to hear its not a loss and i put cloth tape on top of the other jars so its all good.


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Re: Shit! did i just ruin my jars? [Re: TyroneBiggums]
    #2786152 - 06/11/04 09:38 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

The PF tek "for simple minds" uses glasses. Since they don't have lids, there is no way to put the foil "under the lid"... and since a pressure cooker is a high-temperature, high-pressure affair, it is probably not a good idea to seal your jars completely airtight, as they could crack.


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Re: Shit! did i just ruin my jars? [Re: TyroneBiggums]
    #2786591 - 06/12/04 12:55 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

According to your link foil goes on last. That isn't whats in the pic but this is what it says.

Quote:

Carefully wipe clean the exposed inner wall of the jar and the rim. Fill to the top with clean dry vermiculite, screw on the lid and band tightly, and cover the lid with a large square of aluminum foil, to prevent water droplets from entering.




Myself I find using foil nowhere as good as good old tape.

I know this belongs in the growlog forum but it seems more would see it here that can use it. That and I?m sure most have seen it already but maby somebody can use this to help them out.

Grow Log
Tek : PF
Strain : South American [SA]
Spores : Came from homemade prints. 36 total jars to be injected.
Substrate :Brown Rice Flour [BRF] and Vermiculite [Verm]
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10:15 PM 3/4/03 : Project is started. Jar prep is just putting small holes in the lids for the spore syringe and then taping them closed until inoculation. Tape used is the standard black electrical tape. First batch of jars is mixed. The mix used is 2 parts verm, 1 part water, and 1 part brf. [ This mix is the max fruiting formula by PF.] Mix is put into 1/2 pint canning jars lightly, not packed in, and left it airy. Put substrate in until it reaches the threads of the jar, then add dry verm the rest of the way.
Jars are PCd at 10psi or 240f for a period of 45 minutes. Then jars were left to sit overnight to cool.



8:39 PM 3/5/2003 : First batch of jars injected. (24 jars)

10:04 AM 3/6/2003 : Incubator is running to low 77F. Going to turn it up today.



5:45 PM 3/6/2003 : Second batch of jars is in the PC will be injected tomorrow. Turned up incubator runs at 83F. 86F is the best and if the incubator is 83F and myc growing in the jars is suppose to create a little heat I figure this should work out well.

1:11 PM 3/7/2003 : Second batch of jars is done. (12 jars)

12:10 PM 3/9/2003 : Jars are doing good, no signs of contams



2:54 AM 3/19/2003 : Tape removed from the holes today and coffee filters put over the top of the jars for added protection. Holes were opened so the CO2 in the jars could escape. I gave 12 jars to a friend who kept fucking up. 24 jar?s about 75%done.



12:13 PM 3/22/2003 : Well it?s Saturday and the jars will probably be done by the 25th. So it was 36 jars. 12 were given to a friend, 24 done by Tuesday.

10:26 PM 3/23/2003 : 15 jars were done enough to put into dunk. I dunk and cold shock before birthing and after every flush. The other 9 jars have a spot the size of a pea that has to be covered so I?ll do those on the 25th.



7:17 PM 3/24/2003 : 15 jars put into the pod. Put in and put a layer of moist verm on top. With geolite I just put the cakes on it. With some other chambers I put the cake on a lid filled with verm. This is done to give the shrooms on the bottom and the top of the cake some added moisture.
The other 9 jars just finished so I?m going to give them a couple more days to make sure the middle of the cake is done.



4:57 PM 3/27/2003 : 5 More cakes birthed today, 4 left going to do them tomorrow or 3/29/2003

3:58 PM 3/29/2003 : Well I lost another cake. My wife?s little 1 cake pod made from a 2 liter and a small fish pump and a little geolite used up her last cake so I gave her a SA to grow. The last 3 are in the cold shock dunk.
So the total is 36 jars done all colonized with no contams. 12 given to a friend, 1 to the wife, 23 mine

12:08 PM 3/30/2003 : Last of jars put in

12:02 PM 3/31/2003 : The first 15 cakes are pinning nicely and some have shrooms coming from the bottom.



11:01 AM 4/3/2003 : Things look to be going well.



1:02 AM 4/4/2003 : Took the first flush from four of the cakes. More will be done later today.



5/8/2003 : Total 23 cakes 164 grams dried.

From what I?ve seen this needs to be up for a little bit.


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Re: Shit! did i just ruin my jars? [Re: Magash]
    #2786613 - 06/12/04 12:58 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

Thank you, Magash, foil on last =]

That is some damn nice yields for PF tek... as far as I can see it, you can spend some time preparing more substrate and just using more jars and you can get yields as good as some "bulk" teks... without messing with casing, easy as it can be and the risk of contam is low


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Re: Shit! did i just ruin my jars? [Re: jonneill]
    #2786641 - 06/12/04 01:04 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

Well I don't know about that. Here is a decent reason to do casings instead of cakes.



and these cost way less to make  :thumbup: :grin:


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Re: Shit! did i just ruin my jars? [Re: Magash]
    #2786654 - 06/12/04 01:07 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

=] =] =]

I plan on doing a PF-cake to case with straight coir for simplicity. Sound like a good first thing for a beginner? I read a lot on the subject but it seems like I'll check the life cycle with that first and then branch out, if it's successful.

(No need for another thread, of course... =] )


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Re: Shit! did i just ruin my jars? [Re: jonneill]
    #2786667 - 06/12/04 01:10 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

I plan on doing a PF-cake to case with straight coir for simplicity. Sound like a good first thing for a beginner? Yes

Then try this http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum2&Number=2589172&fpart=&PHPSESSID=


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Re: Shit! did i just ruin my jars? [Re: Magash]
    #2786709 - 06/12/04 01:24 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

Thanks, you're the man, I will definitely do that next =]


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Re: Shit! did i just ruin my jars? [Re: TyroneBiggums]
    #2787280 - 06/12/04 10:40 AM (13 years, 18 days ago)

ooo man do i have to make new jars then they look like theyre steamed but im not sure. i will take some pictures later on.


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Re: Shit! did i just ruin my jars? [Re: TyroneBiggums]
    #2788260 - 06/12/04 06:33 PM (13 years, 18 days ago)

no tyrone... they USUALLY have small water droplets after a few days on the sides of the jars...


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Re: Shit! did i just ruin my jars? [Re: berto23]
    #2788639 - 06/12/04 10:55 PM (13 years, 18 days ago)

ya but i put the foil on before the lids and the directions said after putting on the lid... will doing this cause the whole steaming process to have no effect. making these jars was a bitch but id rather do it again then waste 2 syringes. im concerned that the foil may have not let any air exchange in the jars. on 16 of them i used 2 layers of foil so this probably let less air exchange. so what do you guys think keep going or start over?


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Re: Shit! did i just ruin my jars? [Re: TyroneBiggums]
    #2788668 - 06/12/04 11:14 PM (13 years, 18 days ago)

the holes only have to be open while boiling so that the jars dont build up pressure while being heated and explode.... you only cover those holes loosely so that no extra water gets in. Dont worry... just get some tyvek or coffee filter and put it over the holes wile incubating so the myc has some air exchange.


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Re: Shit! did i just ruin my jars? *PICS* [Re: TyroneBiggums]
    #2792480 - 06/14/04 03:10 PM (13 years, 16 days ago)







ALLRIGHT here are the pics... the holes in the foil arent what im worrying about as much as the fact that the foil was put inside the lid... im hoping the steaming worked. i actually put two layers of foil on most of the jars after finding there were holes in the jars. do the jars look normal though? i havent innoculated yet still waiting for more opinions.


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