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Re: LSH tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2 [Re: Bardy] 1
#28208750 - 02/28/23 09:09 PM (10 months, 23 days ago) |
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Hadrian had the Pantheon rennovated and was rebuilt by him during his reign. He took part in the mysteries.
The thing is... I closed my eyes on 6 grams of cubensis once and I saw something almost just like this but spinning and each individual square had blue and gold colors, along with other colors.
This was a few years ago and ever since that I have never seen the Pantheon the same.

It's safe to say the Pantheon looked very different at one time..
-------------------- ☆✮★⋆I ♡ the music, not the bling⋆★✮☆ https://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/1730news.htm 𝔦𝔫 𝔫𝔬𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔟𝔬𝔫𝔦 𝔭𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔦𝔪𝔦 𝔪𝔞𝔩𝔬𝔯𝔲𝔪 𝔣𝔦𝔲𝔫𝔱 May I ask what your bud type is? ❂ LXIV⁶⁴AMOR ❂Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est; pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus: rēs maxima omnis amor.
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Re: LSH tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2 [Re: Bardy]
#28208783 - 02/28/23 09:34 PM (10 months, 23 days ago) |
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Is that Persephone and Demeter taking mushrooms in the 5th century BCE greece?

That can't be! ...
-------------------- ☆✮★⋆I ♡ the music, not the bling⋆★✮☆ https://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/1730news.htm 𝔦𝔫 𝔫𝔬𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔟𝔬𝔫𝔦 𝔭𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔦𝔪𝔦 𝔪𝔞𝔩𝔬𝔯𝔲𝔪 𝔣𝔦𝔲𝔫𝔱 May I ask what your bud type is? ❂ LXIV⁶⁴AMOR ❂Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est; pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus: rēs maxima omnis amor.
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Re: 1mg LSA + new aldehyde molecule discovery results in effects similar to 100ug LSD [Re: tregar] 1
#28208921 - 03/01/23 12:19 AM (10 months, 23 days ago) |
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Oh really... You said you made a tea from some "fresh bridgesii" and took 5 tabs of lsd and 25grams of seeds? You recommend this once a month? You are treating this subject like a spoiled-rotten, rich brat in a department store. It is a complete disgrace.
-------------------- ☆✮★⋆I ♡ the music, not the bling⋆★✮☆ https://rictornorton.co.uk/eighteen/1730news.htm 𝔦𝔫 𝔫𝔬𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢 𝔟𝔬𝔫𝔦 𝔭𝔢𝔰𝔰𝔦𝔪𝔦 𝔪𝔞𝔩𝔬𝔯𝔲𝔪 𝔣𝔦𝔲𝔫𝔱 May I ask what your bud type is? ❂ LXIV⁶⁴AMOR ❂Profundæ lātissimæque vēritātēs amandæ sunt, sīc ideo necesse est: rēs maxima amanda est; pōtus sit is bene scīmus cum nōs id adeō explet, cum altō hīc movet īmus: rēs maxima omnis amor.
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Re: LSH tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2 [Re: Bardy] 1
#28209018 - 03/01/23 05:06 AM (10 months, 23 days ago) |
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i think the name of whatever aldehyde actually doing the claimed adduct formation or whatever isnt that important at the moment. Trying to recreate the method and finding out if it does something for oneself would. There are so many threads out there people claiming to achieve awesome results by combining mg or HBWR seeds with various herbs with various teks - look here, drugs forum, bluelight, dmt nexus and more .. and there are in every single thread people which are 'debunking' the tek without ever trying it with real passion. Most people will try it if at all then only once and then if the tek wont result in the most awesome effects by the first time, will immediately shout its all bullshit ... mostly they dont even follow the teks in the right way. if it would be that easy, it leading to the most awesome result by combining the lsa seeds with the herb in whatever ratio at whatever conditions at whatever lenghts, it would have already a huge fanbase and would probably be banned already.
But it isnt that easy, it depends probably on the quality and quantity of seeds and herbs and the acidity and temperature will have to be ideal and whatever ... it will take some time and a couple of trys with a couple of fails and maybe a couple of awfull failed experiences. There are actually people out there with enough enthusiasm to go through that process and only these people will achieve something at the end of the day, but it seems that these people are very rare nowadays. Try to use the search function and search for 'aldehyde' and 'lsa' or whatever and you'll probably find some of them. Maybe tregar is some weird as dude as he's posting in a confusing way of repeating himself over and over and over, but i think he's one of these dudes with real passion.
How would you act if someone trys to wildprint some pans or something difficult and cultivate them without any experience in mushroom cultivation at all, and when his first try fails he immediately shouts its all bullshit?
Please all bubblebursters and debunkers out there make up your mind!
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Re: LSH tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2 [Re: fantanyl] 2
#28209227 - 03/01/23 09:09 AM (10 months, 22 days ago) |
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I've tried this, and it led to one of the most intense trips of my life. I don't know Tregar at all. I don't know if the chemicals he said were created were actually created, and I don't know if what I took was actually harmful or whatever. But I did absolutely trip balls.
I did not combine it with 5 tabs of LSD, etc. (If I had 5 tabs of LSD, I'd probably just take those instead!)
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Re: LSH tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2 [Re: Myco Zinvinny] 1
#28209397 - 03/01/23 11:51 AM (10 months, 22 days ago) |
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Myco Zinvinny said: I've tried this, and it led to one of the most intense trips of my life. I don't know Tregar at all. I don't know if the chemicals he said were created were actually created, and I don't know if what I took was actually harmful or whatever. But I did absolutely trip balls.
I did not combine it with 5 tabs of LSD, etc. (If I had 5 tabs of LSD, I'd probably just take those instead!)
Nice, thank you, thats the stuff we want to read about!
did you follow the step by step guide tregar gave a couple posts before or how did you prepare your potion? And can you make a quick comparison to how plain LSA seeds are felt?
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Re: LSH tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2 [Re: fantanyl]
#28209467 - 03/01/23 12:55 PM (10 months, 22 days ago) |
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If the teks work then they should be replicable. If people post on forums that they’ve followed the tek and not had results that were noticeably different from just LSA itself, then to me that quality of evidence is as good as reports saying it worked.
There is no concrete evidence of these aldehydes+LSA actually creating anything different on the entire internet as far as I can see. So the fact that Tregar is being very aloof regarding the information claimed to have been discovered, to me, could be indicative of a con. Or maybe Tregar has just managed to convince themselves that these new molecules are forming, even though they’re not. Who knows, maybe they do form, but I’d like to see a properly replicable experiment that I can try which if followed correctly will produce the results every time.
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Re: LSH tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2 [Re: fantanyl]
#28209586 - 03/01/23 02:07 PM (10 months, 22 days ago) |
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Myco Zinvinny said: I've tried this, and it led to one of the most intense trips of my life. I don't know Tregar at all. I don't know if the chemicals he said were created were actually created, and I don't know if what I took was actually harmful or whatever. But I did absolutely trip balls.
I did not combine it with 5 tabs of LSD, etc. (If I had 5 tabs of LSD, I'd probably just take those instead!)
Nice, thank you, thats the stuff we want to read about!
did you follow the step by step guide tregar gave a couple posts before or how did you prepare your potion? And can you make a quick comparison to how plain LSA seeds are felt?
Yeah, I followed tregar's step-by-step.
I haven't done plain seeds for many, many years, but I've never had any luck with them. The couple of times I tried, I just got serious stomach cramps, drowsiness, and only a mildly high feeling in my head.
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Re: LSH tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2 [Re: Myco Zinvinny]
#28209909 - 03/01/23 05:37 PM (10 months, 22 days ago) |
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Bardy said: If the teks work then they should be replicable. If people post on forums that they’ve followed the tek and not had results that were noticeably different from just LSA itself, then to me that quality of evidence is as good as reports saying it worked.
There is no concrete evidence of these aldehydes+LSA actually creating anything different on the entire internet as far as I can see. So the fact that Tregar is being very aloof regarding the information claimed to have been discovered, to me, could be indicative of a con. Or maybe Tregar has just managed to convince themselves that these new molecules are forming, even though they’re not. Who knows, maybe they do form, but I’d like to see a properly replicable experiment that I can try which if followed correctly will produce the results every time.
I think i wasn't clear enough about what i wanted to say, first of all, the question is what is 'concrete evidence'? does some journal have to make a scientific paper about it?
And for me the real first question is, does the preparation make a notable enough difference to plain lsa seeds, to start a discussion about it? this is not as trivial as it seems, first of all who has actually done plain lsa seeds often enough to really estimate this?
to somebody the plain lsa seed experience is not only from preparation to preparation but from seed to seed so dramatically dependent and therefore huge in difference that its hard to pin down the 'regular' plain lsa experience. If then eventually one knows his shit about plain lsa seed, one's able to say if the repeated use of the tek with whatever aldehyde herb does actually make a significant and consistent difference or not. Who has actually done this?? this would be the only and the real concrete evidence at least for one's self.
And then and only then there is the time to discuss any reaction mechanism or anything, maybe there is no reaction mechanism in vitro at all but in vivo is happening some enzyme inhibition type stuff, or maybe its 'only' a synergy thing between lsa seed and herb. But would this devalue the experience itself? of course not.
dont get me wrong, backing up ones claims with scientific papers or something is very important, otherwise probably only few of our world would function. But first comes the empiric experiments and then the theoretic explanation with the fancy structure formulas and so on, who can argue with that? (please dont feel attacked from this Bardy, at this point i dont mean you personally, i mean this trend in the internet altogether)
And as far as i can see the internet actually gives a lot of posts of people who had great success with some type of lsa + aldeyhde preparation, they used a lot of different teks with more or less consistent results, to me it seems as the teks are still in a work-in-progress stage, there is not a properly replicable experiment which produces effects every time. But there are great guidelines and one for example is this thread with tregar's work. If its really necessary i'll post some links to some other positive reports or teks to, but i know they are findable for everyone here. The first question for you should be: are you interested enough in this to experiment with this, also with potential failures? or are you eventually coming back when eventually everything is written up and eventually backed up with papers etc? maybe this happens in 20 years or never, i'm not sure if id share this gem of knowledge after the hard work until scientific papers to all the nay-sayers for nothing. (again not you Bardy)
Another thing i dont understand, why the huge revolt about tregar's making a secret about his aldehyde? he made absolutely no secret about his preparation, everybody could just replicate it and find it out for one's self. i dont think the name of the aldehyde is necessary for this. i thought its in peppermint?
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I did not combine it with 5 tabs of LSD, etc. (If I had 5 tabs of LSD, I'd probably just take those instead!)
Nice, thank you, thats the stuff we want to read about!
did you follow the step by step guide tregar gave a couple posts before or how did you prepare your potion? And can you make a quick comparison to how plain LSA seeds are felt?
Yeah, I followed tregar's step-by-step.
I haven't done plain seeds for many, many years, but I've never had any luck with them. The couple of times I tried, I just got serious stomach cramps, drowsiness, and only a mildly high feeling in my head.
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Re: LSH tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2 [Re: fantanyl]
#28210585 - 03/02/23 05:47 AM (10 months, 22 days ago) |
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No there doesn’t have to be a journal article. A journal article is not evidence itself, it’s a write up which hopefully contains some data which can inform us of what might be happening. Tregar is mixing things together and saying “it feels different to LSA”, and from that Tregar is concluding that there must be a new molecule forming with the aldehyde. They haven’t done any proper research into whether a new molecule is forming (as of yet, afaik), and so shouldn’t be claiming it is.
What the internet gives us, is lots of accounts of people claiming success and lots of accounts of people claiming it just felt like LSA. A lot of the time what people report in the claimed success cases just sounds like a great LSA trip with no nausea, which is what I’ve experienced with some extractions and is totally awesome!
I’m just highlighting that people have been trying these LSA extractions + aldehydes for something like 15 years, and there have been a totally mixed bag of results from the beginning. Also, there is probably a massive reporting bias involved here. Anyone who thinks (or managed to convince themselves) that they’ve had success in creating these new molecules (with a lack of evidence mind you) will most likely be excited to jump on the forums and tell their buddies, whereas I might imagine people who try this and don’t get any exceptionally different results other than an LSA trip might not be so keen to jump on and tell everyone of the failed experiment.
I have an open mind about all the possibilities here. I would love it if this actually worked, but it just doesn’t seem like it does. Maybe Tregar can make a new brew and send it off to a lab in order to get it analysed, then maybe that would give us some proper evidence to go off. Until something like that happens we’re all just mixing brews and hoping it’s making magic.
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Re: LSH tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2 [Re: Bardy] 1
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Page 11 has the method with all pics: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27850299/page/2/fpart/11+
Wanted to address two new recent very good threads on the shroomery, and archive my response here:
1) Ancient Eleusinian mystery brew kykeon (κυκεων) is Psilocybe serbica https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28207631
Very good thread Blue_lux, keep up the great work! well done just keep in mind that the kykeon had to be able to feed several hundred people at once every Sept for 2,000 years. Mushrooms even though found 6 hours away are just not enough to feed 300 plus people all at one time, whereas the Homeric hymn mentions that the kykeon of ancient Greece (foundation for our democracy) was composed of ergot from grain, mint and water, what I propose is that claviceps paspali which grows adjacent to Eleusis even present day in the Rarian plane or field contains the exact same alkaloid profile as the mesoamerican morning glory, and when mint is added you get LSI, I have a book in fall coming out on this, all of page 11 describes this: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27850299/page/2/fpart/11+
Even Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD said that claviceps paspali ergot which infects paspalum grass next to Eleuis could have likely been what was in the kykeon brew. The priest need only powder the ergot, add to water with lots of fresh mint leaf, stir, filter thru cloth and serve. Many people in the states mow over this infected grass and don't even realize it, here is a pic, I found it growing myself:
Page 2, post #27876221 (scroll to the middle) is a 5 page paper on claviceps paspali ergot likely being the kykeon, and why mushrooms could not have likely fed the hundreds of people all at once:
"Has the Mystery of the Eleusinian Mysteries been solved? by Ivan Valencic: "
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27850299/page/2/fpart/2/vc/1 --------------------------------------- 2) LSA CWE with Decaffeinated Cold Brew Coffee? https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28216752
What Logical Chaos proposes is actually not a bad idea, as fresh coffee grounds contain large amount of acetaldehyde. Flickabic actually used the coffee grinds method if you search the posts here. Just remember to keep the grounds cold when you grind as actetaldehyde evaporates off at above 69 degree F.
Page 11 last post describes how to form LSH or Lysergic acid hydroxethylamide from LSA + acetaldehyde found in sherry wine or coffee grounds using 1 to 2 teaspoons of vinegar (contains acetic acid).
Acetic acid is needed to catalyze the condensation of acetaldehyde onto LSA to form LSH, see study on post #28180455 (amide + aldehyde condensation reactions) where acetamide (very similar to our LSA amide) is shown forming new ALDEHYDE ADDUCT products with various aldehydes. This reaction will not work unless you include the vinegar, you can use plain vinegar or apple cider vinegar: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27850299/page/2/fpart/11
When I form LSH from LSA + acetaldehyde in the cold sherry wine, I pour my zero nausea morning glory extract extracted with 3 to 3.5 shots of sherry wine into a jar, add 2 teaspoons of vinegar, and stir on an ice bath for 1 hour, then consume, an ice bath can be formed by placing a bowl with ice cubes on your magnetic stirrer, place your jar of sherry wine morning glory seed extract into bowl, place magnetic stir bar into jar, stir contents for 1 hour at high speed, any leftover LSA will form LSH this way, much more psychedelic than the sedating and practically inactive LSA.
Note: always spray ten dollar wine preservation canister gas into your cold sherry wine before you cork it and put in back in fridge, this way the precious acetaldehyde will not oxidize to vinegar which happens normally after 5 days, this will preserve the acetaldehyde, only ten dollar canister from *mazon. You can always find sherry wine at liquor stores in the wine aisle if your grocery store does not carry it, it's only five dollars or so.
I also heat 4oz water up to 150 degree F, add 2 twinings brand peppermint tea bags (come sealed in fresh foil packs 50 to a box) and let it soak in the water in the fridge till it cools down, then squeeze tea bags, add 2 drops of peppermint oil (not extract), and add this peppermint concoction to my morning glory extract above as it spins for 1 hour, this forms LSA + mystery aldehyde product that I am writing a book on, this new aldehyde adduct product is very similar to an aminopentante that when coupled onto Lysergic acid was found by Dr. Nichols (LSD scientist) to be just as stimulating and active as REAL LSD in rat assays, only it is 1/10 the potency of LSD, in other words you need 1mg of it to equal 100ug of real LSD. Do not use mint tea only peppermint tea, and only peppermint oil drops, not the cheap peppermint alcohol extract from the grocery store. this is all covered on page 11.
Note: DO NOT BOIL the peppermint tea as the new aldehyde which makes up a substantial portion of the many alkaloids in peppermint boils off at right below the boiling point of water or around 207 degree F, so keep tea at 150 degree F, then cool it down in the fridge all the way till you put it on stir mantel. This aldehyde is no different from the 3-aminopentane discovered by Dr. Nichols to result in real LSD like effects when adducted to LSA, more below.
More on LSI:
Pic 1: chemical formula for entry #16....3-aminopentane = CH(C2 H5)2
diethylamine from LSD has 4 carbon groups and 11 hydrogen groups with a molecular weight of 73 g/mol.
Both the 3-aminopentane and the aldehyde of this new discovery have 5 carbon groups and 11 hydrogen groups (once the aldehyde attaches to the H already at the amide of LSA) and BOTH have exact same molecular weights of 87 g/mol similar to diethylamine molecular weight of LSD at 73g/mol. This new aldehyde discovery even looks almost identical to the TALE END OF PSILOCIN, mind blowing once you see it's chemical structure which I will reveal in the book.
The 3-aminopentane from Dr. Nichols and this new aldehyde discovery join at the R1 substitute of LSA with R=H still. This new aldehyde has same molecular weight as 3-aminopentane on the R1 substitute of LSA with R=H, see Dr. Nichol's paper on page 84, chart shown. This is one of only 2 entries in which the rats responded to it (3-aminopentane) as if they had been given LSD.
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The important thing to note from the table below, in the far right column, is the fact that LSD has a potency in rats in the drug discrimination behavioral assay of 48 nanomoles per kilogram of rat body weight. Only two other compounds have comparable activity: entries 6 and 16.
Curiously, entry 6 is a monoalkylamide that has the same molecular weight as LSD itself, that is, it has a total of four carbon atoms attached to the amide. Entry 16 has a five-carbon group attached to the amide.
We have no evidence as to whether either of these compounds would be active in man, but these rat data suggest that they might be.
3-aminopentane has a potency in the drug discrimination behavioral assay of 52 nanomoles per kilogram of rat body weight, this is very similar to the 48 nanomoles per kg of rat body weight observed with LSD.
Good luck. I will only take a small dose of LSD if and only if I drink the above brew at the exact same time, far better than regular LSD trip only, adds incredible dimensions to the experience, way out there music enhancement, euphoria, 3-d visuals, saturated colors, sexual and aesthetic properties far beyond LSD, many properties similar to mescaline. Good luck. I suggest taking the two together, what an experience!
With this method I get a mixture of LSH + LSI, there is no sedating LSA left in the brew.

Last pic: From "Plants of the Gods: Their Sacred, Healing, and Hallucinogenic Powers", Hallucinogenic nectar appears to flow from the blossoms of the morning glory plant, and "disembodied eyes" and birds are other stylistic features associated with the intoxication. An ancient Indian Mother Goddess and her priestly attendants with a highly stylized vine of Ololiuqui, in one of the murals from Teotihuacan, Mexico, dated about A.D. 500.
p.s. It is long believed that LSH or Lysergic acid Hydroxyethylamide is the actual real stimulating and psychedelic alkaloid in the seeds and that the sedating and non-psychedelic LSA is a decomposition product of LSH over time and heat conditions, which is why I always keep my 1lb of seeds frozen at all times until use in freezer. There is around 1/4 LSH and 3/4 LSA found in the seeds naturally, but you can up the LSH to 100% with 0% LSA using described methods. I am life long chemist and have written many other threads here pertaining to new chemistry, see above Ayahuasca posts for links.
I was also the one that 20 years ago on the now defunct Lycaeum told everyone to add real peppermint mint drops and peppermint tea to their morning glory extracts, along with a teaspoon of vinegar to catalyze the reaction from LSA to LSI (just as potent as real LSD, only 1/10th) and it took off like wildfire cause it works, just google and you will find hundreds of enhanced trip reports way beyond LSA. Two mistakes people continued to make was they did not add the vinegar and they used HBWR seeds instead (big no no) as this forms a bad product from the ergometrine found in very high levels in the HBWR seeds which causes bronchial vasoconstriction, this does not happen if you use MG seeds, as it has only trace amounts of ergometrine. MG seeds have hundreds of years of Shamanic use, and HBWR seeds only have history of medicinal use, I agree with Logical Chaos on the use of MG seeds only.
On page #11 of above link, I go into why peppermint works, example from one of the hundreds on the net:
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Just took a 40 seed portion of LSA extract that was mixed for 15 minutes with peppermint oil yesterday and tripped his face off with a friend. Was very clean feeling and relaxed. Rainbows and vibrant fractal energy danced all over the skies and throughout his surroundings and music sounded great. The head-space was very acid like but different. Was a bit intense but he was able to keep it together lol. Whole trip was about 8 hrs long.
I have tried a 20 seed extract without peppermint oil and it seemed uncomfortable and sedating with no visuals, while every time he has added peppermint oil he has gotten visuals.
Since I am a chemist, I have been able to order the actual "mystery aldehyde" that is found in peppermint that when it adducts onto LSA forms a new product with 1/10th the potency of real LSD, only needed to add 2 drops of this pure chemical to my mg extract, add a teaspoon of vinegar, and stir at high speed for 1 hour. Only 1mg of this new product I call LSI gave me same visuals as 100ug of Lsd, same euphoria, cev's of geometrics, stimulation, no different.
Anyhow, good luck with the coffee grinds Logical Chaos.
Sublingual HPBCD DMT Ayahuasca, my psychedelic of choice, visions of feminine teaching serpents https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28189371/page/3
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Re: LSH tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2 [Re: tregar] 2
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I need to get my hands on seeds These are the coolest posts right now
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Completely forgot to document my second attempt with this concoction a week ago. Here it is!
So the first time I tried this tek, I used 30 GRAMS of the tartaric acid, not 30 MILIGRAMS so yeah, that was probably why it didn't work as well the first time. This time I actually did the tek right, made the wine and mixed it up in a smoothie. I think I used 15g of morning glory but I don't remember. Sherry wine tastes really bad to em so I put a bunch of honey in the smoothie to try and mask it but to no avail. Anyways, I drink the smoothie and don't really feel any effects in the first hour that I expected. I just wrote it off as a loss and went on with my night.
Later that evening, I decided to go to the football field down the road with some friends to watch a small game and was just so happy when I was there. I couldn't stop smiling and acting like a kid with my friends. I took my shoes off and the damp grass felt SOOOO good between my toes. I think I need to trip barefoot from now on Anyways, our team won (go sportsball!) and I headed back home.
I only live a few minutes away by bike and I was flying back home. This is where I hit the peak. The cool night breeze gently hit me and I looked up and saw the cloudless full moon in clear view and it was majestic. It felt like one single moment of clarity. Once I got home, I texted one of my friends and he recommended the Lez show, which was making me giggle my ass off. I also read a few introspective posts from people on places around the internet and was so confused and thoughtful about them. I stayed happy all night but didn't really have much of an afterglow or anything the morning after. Slept fine as well.
It was a really great experience but nothing truly mind blowing. I don't really recall any good visuals. I don't know if this was LSH that I experienced or just a good LSA trip, we will probably never know. I would give it a plus though because it is cheap, legal and easy, so there is no real downside that I can see.
I am very open to experimenting more with LSA/H/I/whatever the coolest letter is but I am not a chemist by any means of the word so I am going to be relying on you guys to tell me what to try next. At this moment I am coming up on the cold brew coffee w/ a splash of vinegar CWE so we will see if that produces anything worth of value. I will keep y'all updated. So excited for everything!!!
-------------------- Thank you everyone for your patience and advice!
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Re: LSH tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2 [Re: hedgehopper] 1
#28226575 - 03/12/23 03:17 PM (10 months, 11 days ago) |
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Sounds exactly like a nice LSA trip. There is nothing in that trip report that doesn’t happen with LSA… LSA is amazing by itself, I think a lot of people don’t realise this and then when they have a good experience they sometimes erroneously chalk it up to LSH.
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#28226601 - 03/12/23 03:36 PM (10 months, 11 days ago) |
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I just want to have a seed experience with no nausea or cramps!
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Re: LSH tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2 [Re: NotSheekle]
#28226761 - 03/12/23 06:51 PM (10 months, 11 days ago) |
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NotSheekle said: I just want to have a seed experience with no nausea or cramps!
Extracts I think reduce the negatives, but I don’t think it’s possible for 100% of people to 100% avoid them. Sometimes you’ve just gotta take a bit of bad with the good…
Personally, I get a bit of nausea and some tense muscles every time I take a decent dose of LSA, but it doesn’t worry me, I just have a drink (and maybe ibuprofen) and don’t focus on it. It eventually goes away and you’re left with one of the best trips the natural world has to offer.
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Re: LSH tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2 [Re: Bardy] 1
#28254133 - 03/30/23 06:45 AM (9 months, 25 days ago) |
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Lysergic acid Isovaleraldemide, LSI
The aldehyde in peppermint oil and leaf is Isovaleraldehyde otherwise known as 3-methylbutanal. If you are a business or researcher you can order it directly, there are also two places that sell direct to individuals, just google it. They delivered it straight to my door, one place starts with a "*******" All you need to add is two drops of this to your LSA sherry wine liquid extract as it spins on the stir mantel for 1 hour at high speed, also must add 1 teaspoon of either vinegar or apple cider vinegar (my preference), as the acetic acid in the vinegar is the catalyst for the condensation of the isovaleraldehyde onto the LSA forming Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldehyde, see study above.
There is .01mg LSA in 100 seeds (.01 x 100 = 1mg LSA), just a 100 seed extract has effects very similar to 100ug of LSD, LSI is 1/10th the potency of LSD. Immense visual power with closed eye geometrics, wild colors, music sounds bad ass, divine healing power. I have prepared an extract with 200 seeds and the strength increases similar to 200ug of acid.
I have been tripping my ass off every 7 days or so taking this LSI liquid extract around 1 hour after a very small bridgesii tea prepared with only 450grams of bridgesii cactus chuncks from around the core (around 225mg mescaline), as I love the combo of cactus + LSD, this is no different. Yes, I have tried LSI many times without the cactus, super potent, highly recommend. I will be using LSI for the rest of my life.
This aldehyde is completely safe and has been administered in high does to rats with no ill effects. This aldehyde as you can see from paper makes up a substantial part of peppermint oil and leaf.
More on LSI:
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chemical formula for entry #16....3-aminopentane = CH(C2 H5)2 chemical formula for isovaleraldehyde is (CH3)2 CH2 CH2 CHO
Notice isovaleraldehyde even LOOKS EARILY similar to the tale end of psilocin with nearly the same exact chemical formula as the tale end of psilocin, see pic #2 
diethylamine from LSD has 4 carbon groups and 11 hydrogen groups with a molecular weight of 73 g/mol.
Both the 3-aminopentane and the isovaleraldehyde of this new discovery have 5 carbon groups and 11 hydrogen groups (once the aldehyde attaches to the H already at the amide of LSA) and BOTH have exact same molecular weights of 87 g/mol similar to diethylamine molecular weight of LSD at 73g/mol.
The 3-aminopentane from Dr. Nichols and isovaleraldehyde discovery join at the R1 substitute of LSA with R=H still. This new aldehyde has same molecular weight as 3-aminopentane on the R1 substitute of LSA with R=H, see Dr. Nichol's paper on page 84, chart shown. This is one of only 2 entries in which the rats responded to it (3-aminopentane) as if they had been given LSD.
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The important thing to note from the table below, in the far right column, is the fact that LSD has a potency in rats in the drug discrimination behavioral assay of 48 nanomoles per kilogram of rat body weight. Only two other compounds have comparable activity: entries 6 and 16.
Curiously, entry 6 is a monoalkylamide that has the same molecular weight as LSD itself, that is, it has a total of four carbon atoms attached to the amide. Entry 16 has a five-carbon group attached to the amide.
We have no evidence as to whether either of these compounds would be active in man, but these rat data suggest that they might be.
3-aminopentane has a potency in the drug discrimination behavioral assay of 52 nanomoles per kilogram of rat body weight, this is very similar to the 48 nanomoles per kg of rat body weight observed with LSD.
How to make the zero nausea liquid morning glory extract with pics you will need for the aldehyde experiments: see post #28180455 here in middle of page 11: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27850299/fpart/11/vc/1
See post #3 here on page 1 for two dozen morning glory trip reports: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27850299
On my latest 3.30.2023: 600 seed or 18g high dose morning glory wine extract prepared with isovaleraldehyde and 1 teaspoon apple cider vinegar as catalyst for the aldehyde condensation onto LSA to form LSI, saw 2 hours of dancing colored geometrics, thousands upon thousands they were so intricate for 2 hours which formed completely naked women goddesses at the intersections of the geometrics, mind blowing music enhancement and euphoria, very strong trip for 6 hours with 8 hour duration. One of the most prominent visual features is the seeing of colored energy fields or auras surrounding all objects just as itbebasidia reported, I see this every time the whole trip. Very powerful shimmering and glowing of everything as well, as if there is an intense divine light inside, very beautiful.
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Re: LSH tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2 [Re: tregar] 1
#28254189 - 03/30/23 07:22 AM (9 months, 25 days ago) |
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Interesting read as always At the 100-200 seed range are there any notable side effects? Whats the headspace like?
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Re: LSH tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2 [Re: NotSheekle]
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Interesting read as always, At the 100-200 seed range are there any notable side effects? Whats the headspace like?
Thank you kindly NotSheekle, good to hear from you again. I will show a pic of my bottle of isovaleraldehyde once I transfer from my phone. The headspace is super deep just like LSD. No side effects at all.
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Re: LSH tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2 [Re: tregar] 1
#28254197 - 03/30/23 07:30 AM (9 months, 25 days ago) |
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That’s cool My girl has never tried L only 25x series Cant find any and this may be the closest to show her
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