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Stranger Registered: 04/17/22 Posts: 17 Last seen: 8 months, 15 days |
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So I must be doing something wrong here
![]() We only have access to 151 proof in my neck of the woods, so that was what was chosen. 1oz of everclear 151, 1oz cooking wine (18% abv), 20mg DL-Tanaric acid, 20g seeds powdered. Liquid was at 34deg before combining in dark room - then the mix sat in fridge (sealed container, foil around to block light) for 4.5hrs, shaking for 2 minutes every hour. Decanted, initially filtered through fine mesh screen for debris then secondary filtered down with cotton balls/coffee filter for fine filtering. Lost a good bit of liquid on the xfer, I'd say the final product was a tad over 1oz total even after pressing the solid debris out a bit more. End result after consumption... nada. A little queasy for about 10 minutes, but that was it. No other behavior impact what so ever -- so did the 151 screw up my concoction that bad or am I just one of those unlucky ones that has a stupid high tolerance? For record I have to do north of 7.5g dry of cubensis Maybe I have really crappy seeds?
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Stranger Registered: 08/30/04 Posts: 1,047 Last seen: 13 hours, 17 minutes |
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Check PM Oniralas, good seeds direct from grower make the difference, don't give up. The growers with good seeds usually have hundreds of reviews by others I've seen as well. I've had 5 trips in 2 months using 15g (500 seeds)) and 18g (600 seeds) all more powerful than 4 to 5 hits of 100ug acid, love way more than LSD, more potent with no anxiety or confusion like I get with acid. Here below is trip report from ItBeBasidia as well, if you are loosing too much liquid during extract, just press down on 1/2 cotton ball in the funnel with a straw to help liquid expel, reduces amount of liquid lost. I have to change out the 1/2 cotton ball around 3 to to 4 times. What I do is pour off any liquid that will not filter above the cotton ball into a bowl nearby, then change out 1/2 cotton with a new 1/2 cotton ball, then pour liquid from bowl back thru clean 1/2 cotton ball in funnel, it will continue to filter, press down on cotton with a straw to help it filter and expel liquid. I have to change out cotton around 3 plus times, but it all filters, very little liquid loss.
ItBeBasidia Posted 14 December 2020 (he posted in the "morning glory contains 5 stimulating LSD like drugs, soluble in alcohol or wine, only slightly soluble in water" thread at Mycotopia): Quote: The 5 LSD-like stimulating alkaloids in the seeds will all be extracted by the alcohol, as they are all readily soluble in alcohol, they are not very soluble in plain water. You won't even feel the effects of the alcohol as the extract is stimulating in a natural way like LSD, zero sedation. The cold wine is already at ph=4 and needs no acidity if you don't have the DL tartaric acid, the reaction will still work fine without it until you receive it, then just add the 30mg DL tartaric acid on your next 2nd trip. Keep everclear, wine, extract cold in fridge at all times when not filtering, until you drink it as acetaldehyde boils off at room temp or 70 degree F. Please every psychonaut try this! will be using this every 7 days for the rest of my life, ultra powerful, most incredible psychedelic I've ever used, tripped last night for 5th time on 18g or 600 seed extract for 6 hours, just phenomenal trip, one of the most powerful, visual & euphoric trips of my life, Love, love the extract! ![]() In the trip report from itbebasidia above, he could have just dropped the lemon juice, not needed, wine already plenty acidic, DL tartaric acid just aids the salting, but the natural tartaric acid in the wine will help with this. The lemon juice he used can cause a bit of mild nausea, lemon juice always seems to have that effect. Trust me, I'm a life long chemist, drop the lemon juice, zero nausea experience in all 5 trips I've had in 2 months. Here is pic of another 18g or 600 heavenly blue mg seed (direct from grower) extract I prepared 2 days ago, and tripped my ass off on it on 8-17-22 for 6 hours, it was my 5th trip with the LSH tek extract. My all time favorite psychedelic and I've taken bridgesii cactus tea over 200 times and Ayahuasca more than 80 times and LSD countless times in a decade. Visuals = 11 out of 10 mesmerizing euphoria = 11 out of 10 Color enhancement = 11 out of 10 Music enhancement = 11 out of 10 deep head space = 11 out of 10 no thought confusion or anxiety = 11 out of 10 tolerance is much lower than with LSD, you can use this more often, it has a low tolerance like mescaline or cactus, remains super potent even if taken again 7 days later, no loss of strength = 11 out of 10. 500 seeds just as potent as 400ug of acid, but more powerful all around. 600 seeds just as potent as 500ug of acid, but more powerful all around. Natural = 11 out of 10, no choppiness or frame like nature to the visuals and visions, flowing visions and music enhancement & euphoria extreme. No man made feeling to it at all, extremely potent ancient psychedelic. Teamwork = 11 out of 10, the combo of penniclavine + LSH hits 6 more receptors than even LSD, and far more aesthetic and beauty enhancing then LSD, identical to mescaline "over the top" beauty enhancement. Edited by tregar (08/18/22 05:40 PM)
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Stranger Registered: 05/11/22 Posts: 19 Loc: Western US Last seen: 4 months, 25 days |
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Quote: That's too bad Oniralas. I'm pumped to try this. Where did you get your seeds? -------------------- Whatever the ostensible ism, it's really another face of natalism “Subject,” “object,” “attribute”- these distinctions are fabricated and are now imposed as a schematism upon all the apparent facts. The fundamental false observation is that I believe it is I who do something, suffer something, “have” something, “have” a quality.
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Ascension Energy & Alien UFOs Registered: 05/12/07 Posts: 69,297 Loc: The Inexpressible... Last seen: 3 hours, 41 minutes |
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I got my extracts going right now.
I chilled my Everclear in the fridge yesterday. Used 2 sets of 9 grams of fresh 2022 packed Heavenly Blue MG seeds. I powdered them fine using my expresso coffee grinder and added the 9 grams to one jar, added chilled Everclear at 1.25 fl oz (the 0.25 is for the loss I expect from filtering). I shook and swirled the jar around then quickly placed them back in the fridge, will shake more in the morning. I am going to extract with Everclear first then filter the mixture then add the wine about 4-6 hours before I drink the Everclear-Wine-LSH extract. Shouldnt be a problem right if I keep the Everclear cold? I guess we'll see. Tomorrow, Im going to fill my cooler with ice and place the jars in there to extract/chill for Friday night. On Saturday morning, in a dark room, I am going to filter the mixture using cotton balls then add the chilled sherry wine as the final step. Ive actually had partial sucess just extracting with Everclear. Ive had "glimpses" of psychedelic effect, very brief/short-acting, from drinking LSA-Everclear extracts. But this time, Im keeping everything chilled and of course adding the Sherry Wine (ironically the same brand of both alcohols tregar pictured) and I bet it will have a great trip. I plan on adding about 1.5 - 2.0 fl oz of chilled sherry wine on Saturday. Adding a little extra since I am lacking tartaric acid. Fingers-crossed. Saturday's the big day.
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Registered: 12/07/10 Posts: 12,880 Last seen: 2 months, 8 days |
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You should also do an extraction without the sherry wine for comparison. Someone just made the following post on reddit:
Ergine doesn't become lah/LSH in the presence of acetaldehyde, that's a fools errand. A myth. Anyone leading their decisions off that is down the rabbit hole. https://www.reddit.com/r/LSA/co
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Ascension Energy & Alien UFOs Registered: 05/12/07 Posts: 69,297 Loc: The Inexpressible... Last seen: 3 hours, 41 minutes |
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Ive done them in the past. They marginally work. I prefer methanol extractions (evaporated). I hopeful this chilled sherry wine will work.
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Registered: 12/07/10 Posts: 12,880 Last seen: 2 months, 8 days |
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How exactly does the methanol extraction compare to the sherry wine extraction?
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Stranger Registered: 08/30/04 Posts: 1,047 Last seen: 13 hours, 17 minutes |
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Explanation on how this LSH Tek works:
Answers to Swza's questions below: 1) You don't have to take it from me or itbebasidia, more proof this extract work, YES, you must use this LSH Tek or the leftover LSA in the seeds will not convert to LSH via attraction/condensation reaction with the acetaldehyde in the cold wine. This has been proven to happen in over 4 papers. 2) This LSH Tek will restore the leftover LSA in the seeds to it's previous very high LSH glory, when the seeds are picked fresh off the vine, and the acetaldehyde levels within the seeds are still very high. Remember, acetaldehyde is a volatile compound. With this Tek, the LSH will again reach peak levels just like the high levels of penniclavine in the seeds, important combo teamwork between the 2 highest alkaloids in the seeds which hits 6 more receptors than even LSD, see post above for pic of this. 3) After I hammer the heck out of the seeds in between a folded over paper plate on concrete, then add the debris to a coffee grinder, I also powder the seeds in the grinder for no more than 10 seconds at a time to reduce heat just like Stretchman did below...and grind it to a fine powder just like Stretchman did, with shaking of the grinder while grinding to mix it all up. 4) Yes, use the freshest seeds you can find, and store them in a vacuum bag in the freezer using a vacuum sealer...I buy direct from the grower/producer, tremendous savings, but even if the seeds are old this Tek will restore the leftover LSA back to LSH. Penniclavine in the seeds is very stable as is the LSA. The LSH breaks down over time and heat, but like I said you can restore the LSA to LSH using this Tek. S240779, that reddit poster was totally incorrect. We have several papers proving LSA or Lysergic acid amide forms adducts with the volatile acetaldehyde compounds, see 2022 paper below, or the 1961 paper by Arcamone (4rth paper below) which proved LSA forms LSH when dunked into fermented liquor (wine). The 2022 paper even links a paper from 1936 showing this happens, see the references. As a chemist, it is my job to read research papers. Don't get this confused with "Lysergic acid" which needs a coupler like pybop to link diethylamine to lysergic acid to form LSD. This is completely different, this is LSA or "lysergic acid amide" in the seeds which easily forms adducts with aldehydes in the prescense of alcohol or without, as shown in 1994 paper below, #3. Please don't do a methanol extraction! If you do a methanol extraction, and evaporate it, the LSH will convert back to LSA, as LSH is ONLY stable in acidic solutions such as wine else it decomposes to LSA as the acetaldehyde evaporates off at room temp or 70 degree F. This was proven in the 2016 Polish morning glory study or paper #2. This is precisely why water extractions of morning glory seeds are sedating and not very psychedelic at all, the LSH which was once in the seeds will fall apart and decompose to the sedating LSA once it hits plain water (see 2016 Polish morning glory for a photo of the decomposition of LSH to LSA in plain water or under microwaved extraction conditions). This is why the ancient Aztec and Mayan always extracted into liquor or Balche (beer they made). See post #2 above for pic of how the ancient natives did it using alcohol, from the "Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Plants" by Christian Ratsch in the morning glory chapter. I'm a life long chemist and can argue this all day. Remember, LSH or Lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide is a LABILE compound, or unstable, and will only remain stable in cold acidic solutions such as cold sherry wine which is high in acetaldeyde, else it decomposes to LSA in plain water or when evaporated off. This is very important to remember. Has anyone ever gotten high off the evaporated morning glory solid extract shown in the Anarchist cookbook? No, and that's why: all the LSH decomposed to the sedating LSA. Vecktor (advanced chemist like myself): Quote: Attached File 2022: Adduct formation of d-Lysergic Acid Amide or (LSA) and aldehydes.pdf 1.13MB Attached File 2016 Polish morning glory study shows LSH and penniclavine two highest alkaloids in MG.pdf 1.19MB Attached File Tryptophan analogues form adducts with aldehydes alone or with aldehydes in alcohol.pdf 780.97KB Attached File The LSA component of claviceps paspali forms LSH when dunked into fermented liquor (wine).pdf 3.29MB Attached File 5 Ergot alkaloids in morning glory just as stimulating as LSD in animal experiments, Yui and Yuji Takeo, 1958.pdf 596.64KB attached papers can be found here on page 6: https://mycotopia.net/topic/110 Wanted to comment on something itbebasidia reported as well with the extract: On my 3rd 600 seed or 18g morning glory wine extract, saw 2 hours of dancing colored geometrics, thousands upon thousands they were so intricate for 2 hours which formed completely naked women goddesses at the intersections of the geometrics, mind blowing music enhancement and euphoria, very strong trip for 6 hours with 8 hour duration. One of the most prominent visual features is the seeing of colored energy fields or auras surrounding all objects just as itbebasidia reported, I see this every time the whole trip. Very powerful shimmering and glowing of everything as well, as if there is an intense divine light inside, very beautiful. ![]() ![]() You don't even have to take my word or vecktor's word or any of the several research paper's word for this, take a look at the way LSD chemist Todd Skinner used to prepare claviceps paspali in wine to form LSH from any leftover LSA in the ergot found growing on paspalum distichum grass. He knew the secret as well, he probably based his wine extracts on the work of Arcamone, 1961 on 4rth paper above. Claviceps paspali ergot contains the exact same alkaloid profile as the powerful Mesoamerican morning glory according to LSD discoverer Albert Hoffman and chemist Peter Webster. Krystle Cole from the book "Lysergic": Quote: Krystle Cole's "ergot wine" experience (several pages long) in the book "Lysergic", reported that she saw constantly rotating holographic Sanskrit or Arabic & Zodiac symbols, floating in a circle around Todd's head. Even LSD chemist prepared claviceps paspali ergot in wine. He must have known the secret of acetaldehyde adduction to form LSH in the wine from the leftover LSA in the ergot. LSD chemist often use claviceps paspali ergot to make LSD. They will boil all the extracted alkaloids in a solution of ph=10 potassium hydroxide in the ergot under nitrogen inert atmosphere under low light conditions to convert to Lysergic Acid, and then couple diethylamine to the lysergic acid to form LSD using the modern PyBop peptide coupling agent. The above report is important, and it shows that LSD chemist such as Todd Skinner and friends have been having very strong psychedelic experiences using wine infusions of claviceps paspali ergot which grows on paspalum distichum L. grass. Many often mow it and don't even realize it. This same ergot grows on affected grass on the famous Rarian plain next to Eleusis, where the kykeon was drank by hundreds of people in the psychedelic ceremony. Wine soaked Ergot could have easily fed hundreds of people. This ceremony went on for 2,000 years. The claviceps paspali ergot contains the exact same alkaloid profile as the powerful Mesoamerican morning glory. The kykeon brew is the active ingredient of the potion, most likely a wine potion containing the claviceps paspali ergot which grows on the paspalum distichum L. grass in the Rarian plane adjacent to Eleusis, where the psychedelic ceremony was held for hundreds of people. The priest administering the brew to the people need only ground up the ergot and add it to wine. It was most likely LSH + penniclavine found in the claviceps paspali ergot which inspired the great philosophers, mathematicians, scientists, artists, architects and poets of ancient Greece who we recognize as the progenitors of Western civilisation, the sacrament which was revelation for these greatest of the greats was an analogue of LSD: A naturally-produced lysergic acid alkaloid whose effects were identical to those of that "greatest of all evils," that "diabolical drug which destroyed a generation," that "fly now, die later drug," that "greater threat to the nation than the Vietnam War," (to quote merely a few of the more tame epithets that have been hurled at the revered sacrament of Eleusis in its newly discovered form.) The annual autumn celebration at Eleusis in ancient Greece was a most important and spiritually enlightening event, as the writings of a great number of famous names of Greek antiquity testify, such as Plato, Socrates. The 9-day ceremony known as the Greater Mysteries was one of the most important events of the Greek religious calendar, and it was celebrated every year for nearly two thousand years. The constant and essential use of the psychedelic sacramental beverage consumed during the final day of the Greater Mysteries, the KYKEON, indicates that it was as necessary to Eleusis as the sacramental bread and wine have been for the two millennia of Christian worship. The central mystery of the Eleusinian mysteries pertains to the nature of the kykeon—the psychedelic mixture drunk by initiates at the autumnal Eleusinian festival. It was no doubts of palpable nature, so that something was drunk in the telesterion in reality and not only in effigy as some historians supposed. This is well supported by the infamous scandalous event that took place in 415 B.C. when the powerful political and military leader of Athens Alkibiades stole the kykeon at Eleusis and entertained by it himself and his friends. Another conclusion can be inferred from this incident: the ingestion of the kykeon must have been a pleasant and therefore sought-after experience. This was confirmed by many writers of antiquity who participated at the mysteries, and to my knowledge there are no reports on bad trips in the ancient texts that have been preserved. LSH or Lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide hits the 2 receptors 5-ht2b & 5-ht2c below + 9 other receptors, if you follow: http://www.t3db.ca/toxins/T3D36 -------------------------------- Below, you will see that others way before me were using cold everclear extracts of the morning glory seeds with added DL tartaric acid to achieve trips more powerful than any LSD as well, but you will want to add a shot of cold sherry wine as well to allow the LSA to adduct to the acetaldehyde in the wine to form stable LSH...here are several examples below: chemist Peter Webster, who spoke at the LSD symposium, page 182 (morning glory chapter) of "Sacred Mushrooms of the Goddess, Secrets of Eleusis" May 2006: Quote: chemist Peter Webster, page 6 "Mixing the Kykeon" Quote: chemist Peter Webster, page 4 "Mixing the Kykeon" Quote: Stretchman's morning glory extract from the now defunct Lycaeum: Quote: The morning glory seeds the ancient Aztec and Mayans extracted into alcohol or balche (see photo of this in post #2 above) were used more extensively than even mushrooms or peyote: "Psychotomimetics of the Convolvulaceae morning glory", page 93: Quote: Jonathan Ott "Pharmacotheon": Quote: A few morning glory trip reports from the archives, now take these trip reports below and multiply the effects several times once you prepare a proper LSH tek as detailed in this thread: Erowid report: ------------------- 400 older dried seeds is similar to a little less than one hit LSD. 400 fresh off vine is like about 2 or three hits. Paper read once: ---------------------- In fresher seeds there's mainly LSH (in relation to LSA). Only in old seeds, the LSA is dominant. This is because the fungi on the plant can only biosynthesize LSH (not LSA), and LSA is then a decomposition product of LSH over time. The fungi on the vines biosynthesize: From Tryptophan-->chanoclavine-->agro 2016 Polish morning glory study found 3x higher amounts of LSH in MG seeds direct from grower/producer vs retail: -------------------------------- seeds direct from growers: 1.71 LSH to 5.08 penniclavine ratio seeds off retail racks: 0.54 LSH to 4.75 penniclavine ratio -------------------------------- My comment, use the LSH Tek in this thread and it will convert any leftover LSA in the seeds back to it's previous very high LSH glory, the LSH levels can then reach the same peak levels as the high penniclavine in the seeds, it will be just like fresh picked seeds off the vine, when the LSH and penniclavine levels were both ultra-high. They can both reach 5.00 this way. Sandoz Labs: ---------------- The table from Sandoz suggested that ALD-52 might actually have advantages over LSD, reducing any side effects but achieving a stronger trip. Measurements of brain waves while people were taking the two drugs showed that while LSD produced brain waves associated with intense concentration and anxiety, ALD produced brain waves showing a more relaxed mental state. -------------------------------- My comment: the morning glory extract has many similarities to ALD-52 (also discovered by Albert Hofmann) as it has none of the anxiety or thought confusion of LSD, completely natural, more in line with ALD-52. Red22: ----------- This paper states that "LAH" was identified in blood and/or urine samples in two individuals who ingested the seeds. This is interesting because Peter Webster alleges that LAH will immediately decompose when in the body (Source; Edit -> Find -> hydroxyethylamide (first result)). This paper indicates that that's not true. Klinke HB, Müller IB, Steffenrud S and Dahl-Sørensen R, Two cases of lysergamide intoxication by ingestion of seeds from Hawaiin Baby Woodrose, Forensic Sci Int, 2010, 197(1-3), e1-5 Page 515 "Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Plants" Christian Ratsch: -------------------------------- The fresh or dried morning glory seeds normally were added by the Aztec and Mayan to alcoholic drinks (sugarcane liquor; c. alcohol), tepache (maize beer, chicha), and balche' (Schultes 1941, 37). TIHKAL: ------- LSH = D-Lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide in the seeds is chemically similar to LAE-32, in which human experiments were done, at 1.6mg it was stimulating & "LSD like". Glasser: ------------- Glasser in 1961 noticed animals also became stimulated when injected with LSH. Dr. Glasser said some of the mice even stood on their hine legs and pressed on the noses of the mice in front of them, very peculiar. From the 1957 paper "Extraction and Identification of Clavine and Lysergic acid alkaloids from morning glory": -------------------------------- All members of the excitor group produced in all test animals a syndrome of central sympathetic excitation and elicited a stimulation of spontaneous activity. In this group, elymoclavine was the most potent stimulant and next come agroclavine, triseclavine, penniclavine, and LSD which are almost equipotent, as judged by the degree of symptoms exhibited in the same dose. The arousal effect of elymoclavine or agroclavine on reserpine-sedation was superior to that of LSD. Animal experiments have shown that penniclavine, elymoclavine, lysergol, LSD and several other ergot alkaloids such as agroclavine, triseclavine, and lysergene have excitory effects on the central nervous system (Note 1: Yui & Takeo, 1957) as well as lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide (LSH) which also excites the central nervous system in animals (Note 2: Glasser, 1961). There is also an interesting on-line interview with the LSD chemist Bear Owsley where he hits on a derivative of LSD that the ancients may have discovered and prepared for the Eleusis mystery quoted here: -------------------------------- Owsley: Claviceps paspali ergot, same alkaloid profile as morning glory contains many natural, highly psychedelic alkaloids. Iso-ergine is one of them, Lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide or LSH is another one, and in fact, is considered nearly identical to LSD in effect. Albert Hoffman told me so himself. They believe that it was this derivative contained in extracts of c.paspali which grows on certain grass that was used in the Eleusian Mysteries. "The Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Plants" (2005) by Christian Ratsch: -------------------------------- According to Schuldes, a low dosage consists of 20 to 50 seeds, a moderate dosage of 50 to 150, and a high dosage of 300 seeds or more; only with moderate to high dosages was he able to observe LSD-like effects (Schuldes, 1993, 86f.*). 300 crushed or ground seeds is said to correspond to approximately 200 to 300 ug of LSD (Rob Montgomery, pers. comm.; Veit 1993, 548). The LD 50 of the isolated alkaloids is said to lie between 164 and 214 mg/kg in rats and between 1 and 2 g for humans. Hermes (Lycaeum): -------------------------------- With a 400 morning glory seed alcoholic extract, I see amazing three and seemingly four-dimensional shapes morphing and bifurcating. Often I get religious and esoteric themed visuals, like fractal cherub wings and winged eyes like those in some of Alex Grey's work. Eyes are all over everything! I see pyramids and sphinxes and Gigeresque biomechanical forms. I see amazing geometric lattice structures. I watch mathematical space-filling algorithms doing their thing. I also find that I can control the imagery by an act of will. Anything I intend to visualize comes forth and then goes beyond what I had imagined and then transforms into something else. This is great for artists! I could swear that on one occasion while listening to Mozart's Requiem, Heaven itself opened up inside my skull! It was incredible! OH, THE BEAUTY! I saw glorious celestial architecture and there were seraphs singing along with the chorus in the music. I just can't even begin to describe what this was like. I had tears streaming down my face. I was in the highest ecstacy I have ever known. And all of this with a nothing more than a good mindset, good music, and only about 500 seeds. I'll never forget it. It was probably all in my imagination, programmed by my Catholic upbringing. I don't know and don't really care where it came from. It was the most beautiful thing I have ever experienced, and I still feel great joy when I think of it. I felt so whole! Piper methysticum (bluelight): -------------------------------- Morning Glory seeds are definitely the most euphoric psychedelic I've ever taken during the onset and the first part of the peak. Not even a strong dose of MDA could compete with the euphoria I felt from 12g of Morning Glory seeds. However, the comparison of LSA alkaloids to MDA is ridiculous. The visuals from Morning Glory seeds are quite inconsistent for me. The first time I tried them, at 9g, the visuals were very dull, but the mental and physical aspects were awesome. My second time at 12g, the visuals were beyond amazing. I got the feeling of being completely in a warp through time and visuals were flying past me and unimaginable speeds. A couple of my unexperienced friends were talking about the tracers they were seeing at the same time this was happening to me. I had to laugh. With just 6g my third time, I also had some pretty amazing visuals, though they weren't nearly as mind blowing. bluedolphin: -------------------------------- Nah I get some impressive visuals off around 200 seeds. I've even had kaleidescopic vision from ~225 seeds. Granted I tend to get more visuals than most people, but at your dose I'm not surprised at all that you had some strong visuals." DJAngrE: -------------------------------- oh hell yeah, i've had major kaleidoscopic vision (but only when i close my eyes) i've actually had the strongest OEVs of any drug i've tried including mushrooms... LSA is the best music drug in my opinion, next time maybe take a couple hits of weed (with a much smaller dose of seeds of course) i promise it'll be just as sweet. MrNice: -------------------------------- Im pretty lucky with MG seeds, my highest dose was 500 and even then i didnt get any nausea or leg cramps. I normally stick to around 250, i'll get a nice 7hr trip from them...the best way i can describe how i feel on them is serene. Everything feels so good, colours are brighter, music sounds richer, best music drug in my opinion, plus their cheap & easy to get hold of. Usually have an LSA trip about once a week. One of the best effects is that you dont seem to get a comedown with them, its more of an afterglow. Your not tripping but you feel really relaxed and content. GoaM: -------------------------------- Man. A friend of mine sent me some morning glory seeds. I did 17 grams last night. Well anyway, the shit hit HARD after a few hours. Fuck man. I'm talking colors, fractals, hardcore patterning. This stuff is great. I LOVE LSA. It's great stuff, and the colors are very beautiful. genaro: -------------------------------- well I have had quite a few visuals (both CEVs and OEVs) from morning glory (15-30g which is 500 to 1000 seeds)...which was THC free in quite a few cases. On my very first trips with these (let's say the first 3-8 trips) there was no "trip routine" and I could get very nice OEVs such as very nice and brightly coloured Kalaeidoscopeic/vortex stuff all over the walls of my room, beautiful. Mxindustry sheep: -------------------------------- I once purchased a very good (very potent) batch of heavenly blue seeds. Open and close eye visuals 200 seeds. ~erebus: -------------------------------- I have yet to try HWBR but I have some experience with morning glory seeds. I had the most intense trip I've ever had with them, strangely enough. Time perception was heavily distorted, and all I remember thinking was "WOW". My vision was completely filled with geometric patterns, much like you would find on a tiled floor with patterns. thefungalfiend: -------------------------------- I've taken large amounts of morning glory, and can definitely attest to their ability to produce visuals. Rich, complicated visuals. Take more. Erowid doses are all wrong on this. It saids 10g is a Strong dose? That's just getting started. That's why no one feels these things, because no one is taking enough. The best trip I had on them was with 25 grams. innatebeat: -------------------------------- I've never really gotten a clear idea of how good LSA really is. Finally I tried it and had AMAZING results.I honestly felt a genuine happiness, a need to better myself, and finally was able to say goodbye to some harsher substances I'm into...If any of you guyz have been thinking of giving LSA a try I definetly recommend it, I'm no NOOb either, I've had my share of psychedelics and this one has got to be at the top of my list, simply because its natural...I even liked it better than fungus... Psychedelics_r_best: -------------------------------- The only time I had a marvelous LSA experience was with about 500 seeds, It was amazing. Like nothing else I've ever tried. Visuals and all. dilated_pupils: -------------------------------- I did 10 grams (appox. 300 seeds) of Morning Glory Heavenly Blues. It was just amazing, intense visuals, morphing, tracers, my mind was going insane. I had a great time! xxanxx: -------------------------------- I usually use about 15-20 grams MG seeds and smoke a joint or two--great trip, more powerful than any acid I've taken! morningloryseed (bluelight): ---------------------------- Unlike most alkaloids, LSA is water soluble when it is in its natural, freebase state...the way it is found in the seeds. it is a rare, exception to a rule because by simple definition, alkaloids are very alkaline or basic when in their freebase form as they normally occur in plants. Thus, they do not dissolve well into water. Most likely, many of the other ergoline akaloids probably are not water-soluble in their freebase form and thus are not extracted from the ground seed matter when a "tea" is made. or they get dissolved into the non-polar solvent used when an A/B extract is performed and they are thrown away. Thus, extracts have a different mix of alkaloids and that is why the trip from A/B extracts or a "tea" of m. g. seeds feels so different than that of the whole seeds. In my vast experience with eating the seeds, and taking extracts, the trip that results is not as good. And I've taken the seeds more than any other psychedelic, except LSD and marijuana. I find them much more narcotic/sedative-like in nature and the effects are really nothing like that which I get from EATING the seeds. The fact that teas or other extracts feel very different from the trip of the whole seed has also been noted by everyone I've shared m.g. seed tea with, and is a comoon thing reported in trip reports. So this is definitely not a phenomena that I am alone in feeling. Many, many, many people IM or email me with morning glory seed questions and most of them who have tried both have also noted that extracts are not as psychedelic and nowhere near as potent as eating the whole seeds. The seeds do cause nausea and vomiting (as many other psychedelics like ayahuasca, mescaline, ibogaine, etc.) but a purge, I feel great. Like I said, I think the seeds are one of the best psychedelics, and I have tried quite a number of different ones. Extractions such as a simple morning glory "tea", or the more complicated A/B extraction, will give you a mixture of different LSA's than those found in the whole seeds. It is the combination of all the ergoline alkaloids in the seeds that make you trip. The main alkaloid is the mostly sedating LA-111, but many others (up to a dozen or so) including d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide (closest molecule to LSD found in nature), are known to occur in the seeds. Together, they have a synergestic efffect and produce a very different kind of experience from pure LA-111. It is (in my opinion) a great trip. One of my favorites. Of course the trip from seeds is very different from LSD. But because it is different than LSD does not mean it is not as good. I think they are both very useful. Some of my most meaningful trips have been with natural lysergic acid amides. -------------------------------- My comment on this, please don't eat the seeds, this will cause intense nausea, several teens even ended up in the emergency room after eating the seeds. The ancient Aztec and Mayan never ate the seeds, they extracted into balche, a beer they made. The alcohol extract will extract all the alkaloids from the seeds so you don't have to eat them, zero nausea. The cold liquid extract will give you trips as powerful as morningloryseed experienced and beyond. Example page from Merck on penniclavine and agroclavine (found in morning glory seeds): -------------------------------- penniclavine and agroclavine are soluble in ethanol, chloroform, pyridine, soluble in benzene and ether, very little water soluble. From "The Alkaloids: Chemistry and Physiology", page 32: -------------------------------- "Penniclavine and Agroclavine are readily soluble in organic acids, penniclavine and agroclavine are stable to acids", wine stands as one of the sources of organic acids. Page 33 "Elymoclavine is only somewhat soluble in water". Peter Webster states in "Sacred Mushrooms of the Goddess, the Secrets of Eleusis" in the morning glory chapter that Chanoclavine is soluble in alcohol. From "The Elixir: an Alchemical Study of the Ergot Mushrooms": -------------------------------- The ancient civilization of Greece centered around the religious ceremonies conducted annually in the Eleusinian temple in Athens. According to Aristotle, the mystery at Eleusis was something experienced rather than something learned. There were two rituals performed at Eleusis, the first was the "Lesser Mystery," in which the participants were given a libation of wine containing ergot & opium, and the "Greater Mystery," during which the initiates were given wine containing ergot, and experienced a collective vision of the Mother Goddess Persephone. Dragonrider: ----------- I have also experimented with morning glory seeds a lot. A couple of times the seeds came very close to LSD. I have combined morning glory seeds with other psychedelics. On a few occasions, they boosted the effects of psychedelics enormously and very few seeds where actually needed to create this effect. Once a mere 30 seeds were enough to cause an overwhelming OBE on LSD, paired with the most insane visuals and a defragmentation of the mind like i have never experienced ever since. I am convinced that there is a substance in fresh morning glories, and maybe it is LSH or penniclavine, that modulates receptors that are being activated by psychedelics in such a way that it can boost the effects of other psychedelics. 69ron: ------ I know some of you out there are apt to believe the statements above because you've failed at making LSH and those statements above help you feel better about you're failure. Don't fall victim to that kind of crap. Try it again. Find out what you did wrong. When it works, the difference is HUGE, not a tiny difference, the experience is TOTALLY DIFFERENT. SWIM knows the effects of LSA and LSD very well. He’s used them many times. He guarantees that when the reaction works, there is NO NOTICEABLE LSA left at all in the experience. It becomes almost identical to an LSD experience at low doses. Totally different from LSA. According to Albert Hofmann (the inventor of LSD), LSH is an adduct of LSA and acetaldehyde. Adducts are very simple to make. You just mix them in solution, that's all. The effect of adding acetaldehyde is HUGE. SWIM cannot feel any leftover LSA when the process is done right. So, like I said, I think those guys don't know what they're talking about and I believe Hoffman does, and that LSH is an adduct of LSA and acetaldehyde and nothing more. No complex reaction is needed to make it. You just mix the two together and LSH forms. And I believe all of the LSA forms LSH, not just a small amount of it because you cannot feel any of the effects of LSA after this is done right. When the conversion from LSA to LSH is complete it feels COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. The reason some people can't tell the difference is because their conversion failed. It doesn't always works, but when it does, the difference in effects are night and day. No one would ever think the effects of LSH are anything at all like LSA. It's that different. downwardsfromzero (old moderator and my dear friend at DMT nexus forum) said: -------------------------------- I'll append a link to my own LSA-acetaldehyde experience, already briefly described here. This was one of the more visual attempts with natural lysergamide-containing seeds. The experience followed a night involving the consumption of a significant amount of brandy, thus there was an incontestable residue of acetaldehyde in my body. I see that brandy is high on the acetaldehyde scale. All I would add here is that, quite a few years ago, HBWR seeds provided me with a spiritual experience that was most definitely psychedelic. The prior night I had been drinking brandy. I chewed and swallowed a few seeds largely on a whim, after searing off the hairy coat with a piece of hot charcoal. Soon afterwards I fell asleep. I awoke shortly after sunrise. This was at midsummer so I'd been asleep for three or four hours. It took me a while to work out what was going on because at first I thought it was just a hangover. The experience proper began only after (induced) vomiting - on what seemed like the advice of the plant itself. The neon-electric zingyness of LSD was all but absent, although there was a fractal overlay with eyes open. The overall feel was more earthy and organic. A wise, stern-but-kind voice within gave me most useful advice for several hours. This also contrasted with the 8 hours solid 'LMAO' that LSD so often provides. The divinatory use of this type of material makes absolute sense. I count this among the more significant entheogenic experiences of my life. Whatchamacallit (2006): ----------------------- I have read that using an alcohol high in acetadehyde, like sherry converts the LSA to LSH which is supposed to a better trip, or more potent, or more stable. There would be alcohol and water and acetaldehyde, so it may be the best experience yet. Just let it soak in sherry for a few dayshaking often, maybe longer, if not in a hurry, then filter and drink it. Let us know how that works. I have heard from several respectable people that this works very well. Also keep the bottle away from light (maybe wrap in foil or use dark brown bottle), at all times and heat, etc. Kash: ----- Just took a 40 seed portion of LSA extract that was mixed for 15 minutes with peppermint oil (contains 2mg acetaldehyde per 5 drops) yesterday and tripped his face off with a friend. Was very clean feeling and relaxed. Rainbows and vibrant fractal energy danced all over the skies and throughout his surroundings and music sounded great. The head-space was very acid like but different. Was a bit intense but he was able to keep it together lol. Whole trip was about 8 hrs long. I have tried a 20 seed extract without peppermint oil and it seemed uncomfortable and sedating with no visuals, while every time he has added peppermint oil he has gotten visuals. dmthead420: ----------- Seems this does do alot more, its alot more refined, clean, less body high all mind high.. i extracted 700 riveas into 100 ml of lemon juice , 50ml water .. that sat 9hrs in the fridge(water stayed the color of lemon juice but smelled like alkaloids) i filtered and added 100ml of sherry wine and that sat 6hours.. A buddy and i sampled 12ml of this and the effect is way different from just eating the seeds or just a simple water extract.. No body feelings AT ALL, not even the normal body buzz.. just a extreme lsd like head and abstract thoughts, better sense of understanding.... Real soon i am def going to try a large dose ..I Feel GreaT...I will no longer do it any other way.....my friend says the same. Norman, mycotopia, said on 16 September 2019: -------------------------------- Years ago I stumbled across a simple method for dosing HBWR. Grind the seeds and cover them with white wine, let sit in the fridge for a day or so, shaking occasionally, decant, filter and drink. No nausea no aches no vasoconstriction. I am now off alcohol completely so I’m thinking of an alternative method short of a full on extraction. I’m convinced that something in the wine besides water and alcohol is what makes the trip so clean. I’ve tried twelve percent water alcohol mixes in the past and still had the nasty side effects and at the same time the trip is not as strong. I’m thinking acetaldehyde and or tartaric acid may be involved or at least a good place to start. Any thought on what chemically may be going on? QUOTE from hermes (lycaeum March 2003) on morning glory visuals & strength: -------------------------------- Depending on seed quality, you should get some weak to decent effects from 8 grams, like mild reality bending, marked enhancement of aesthetic perception, insights, weak open eye visuals, moderate but subtle closed eye visuals (especially with music). I find that more satisfactory results are achieved with more seeds, like 14 grams or more. This much is needed to enter truly psychedelic territory. I wouldn't recommend this much if you haven't tried lower doses with the same seeds and method, however. I usually just measure by Burpee bags. These are 1.8 grams each. I have used anything ranging from 3 to 12 of these. Strangely, the 12 bag trip was relatively weak. They must have been some old seeds. My strongest experience ever with MG seeds was with the Martha Stewart brand from K-Mart. I had strong effects, with good open eye visuals, on only 300 seeds! I used a cold water extraction with some added lemon juice, but the alcoholic extract by Stretchman also here at the Lycaeum I tried was the strongest. I had strong 4D lattice-like open eye visuals and warping and melting of furniture with only 400 seeds. There are about 32-36 seeds to a gram. The Martha Stewarts are more expensive than the Burpees. They are like $1.30 a bag or something close to that for a 1.2 gram bag. The Burpees are something like $0.88 a bag and each bag has 1.8 grams. That's $2.05 a gram for Martha Stewart seeds and $0.92 a gram for Burpee seeds. It seems to be a trade off. 3 experimenter's effects when ingesting pure ergonovine, another name for ergometrine (found in HBWR), June 1979 Journal of Psychedelic Drugs, morning glory contains very low levels of ergometrine at only .03% whereas HBWR seeds contain .17% (quite high), ergometrine causes cramping and vasoconstriction, see below: -------------------------------- In the January-June 1979 issue of the Journal of Psychedelic Drugs, Jeremy Bigwood, Jonathan Ott, Catherine Thompson and Patricia Neely report on their attempt to replicate Hofmann's finding in three experiments with ergonovine maleate, each time in one pastoral setting. They were following up Wasson and Ruck, who tried the same amount as Hofmann but "did not experience distinct entheogenic effects." With Thompson acting as a guide, three of them took 3mg. of ergonovine maleate, which appeared as a slightly phosphorescent bluish solution in water. Fifteen minutes later they felt like lying down and looking at the sky; then there were "very mild visual alterations, characterized by perception of an 'alive' quality in inanimate objects." Most of this effect passed within an hour; walking along the beach, they experienced mild leg cramps. Bigwood saw eidetic imagery before going to bed, and the three "slept easily...awakening refreshed in the morning." The three experimenters were "convinced that ergonovine was psychoactive, but only J.B. was persuaded the drug was entheogenic." They decided to try it again two weeks later in an increased dosage of 5 mg., but Neely took only 3.75mg. "Again, we experienced lassitude and leg cramps, more pronounced than in the earlier experiment." The psychic effects were more intense than previously, particularly eidetic imagery. "Now it was clear to all of us that ergonovine was entheogenic...The entheogenic effects, however, were very mild, while the somatic effects were quite strong. We had none of the euphoria characteristic of LSD and Psilocybin experiences." To determine if higher consciousness alteration was possible, they tried larger oral doses of ergonovine maleate a week later. This time, Neely took a dose of 7.5mg and the others took 10mg: "One of us (J.O.) described "flashes in periphery, ringing in ears, inner restlessness" 40 minutes after ingestion, and later noted "mild hallucinosis, cramps in legs and felt the cramping in the legs as painful and debilitating. The psychic effects did not increase with the same magnitude as the somatic effects...For what seemed like hours, we lay on our backs atop a small pumphouse, watching fluffy cumulus clouds pass silently above us. The effects were still quite intense six hours after ingestion. One of us experienced abundant eidetic imagery, rapidly-changing, colorful geometric patterns, undulating, never still. We all had a slight hangover the following morning." Stripper and Todd Skinner's girfriend Krystal Cole's claviceps paspali (same alkaloid profile as the powerful Mesoamerican morning glory) ergot wine experience from Chapter 17 THE BLOOD OF CHRIST from the book "Lysergic": -------------------------------- Todd knelt down, holding an ornately decorated gold chalice. A magnificent piece to behold, exquisite. It pulsated with energy, spirituality. "Sherom Teleqot Masecot," he began his prayers in ancient Chaldean, and then moved on to a higher prayer. "Ebatone Neahmeh Nohhoaayow..." the language of the gods. Reverent peacefulness engulfed him as the words came forth. He turned to face me and drank several large gulps. Then bowed his head in silence as he passed me the chalice. "What is it?" I was totally caught by surprise; we had not planned on tripping for awhile. Things had been far too crazy lately. "It's ancient wine. Just try a sip." "I don't know..." I didn't want to have a repeat of my DMT experience. My mind wasn't as prepared as it should be prior to a journey. Also, I had never seen him this spiritual before a trip. He never prayed or used a chalice any other time. Usually he would non-ceremonially weigh out the doses on his lab scale, and then simply pass them out. No ceremony, no prayers. Why the sudden change? "Just try a small sip. It is time for you to be initiated into the order, you're ready. But I would kneel and say a prayer first if I was you. This one must be taken very seriously." His head bowed slightly but he still kept eye contact. I was curious so I knelt down, even though my instincts were telling me not to. What order? The brotherhood maybe? And what was in the chalice? It couldn't really be ancient wine, could it? I examined the liquid; it looked and smelled just like red wine. Why not? I cautiously drank a small sip. It was thinner than normal wine and had a woody taste. The most interesting part was the way it tingled as it went down. A warming sensation filled my throat and stomach. "Okay I drank some, now what is it?" "It's Ergot wine." He smiled slyly, knowing he had gotten one over on me. "ERGOT WINE! Oh my God!" I was in shock. "Ergot can kill people. I wouldn't have taken it if I would have known what it was. It's St. Anthony's fire! It can make you lose body parts if you touch it! Oh, my God!" My head was spinning. How could he have not warned me? "I knew you would react like this, that's why I just told you to drink it. You get so afraid sometimes. There is no need to be; you are safe." A slight giggle escaped from his lungs. "Are you sure it's safe? Where did you get it?" My heart was racing. "I made it when I was younger. I did an alcohol wash of the ergot fungus with the wine. Then I corked the bottles up and stored them. The ergot fungus will feed on the sugars in the wine, giving it the woody taste. I let them age for about ten years. It is best to wait a little longer, but I felt it was an appropriate time to open one anyway. Every year it ages, it will become a little less potent and easier to control the dose." "How do you know what a safe dose is?" I was skeptical. "Ergot is a fungus and a precursor for LSD. Ergot is interesting because we really don't know what happens to the alkaloid concentration over time. It moves around, changes. So the dose is guesswork." "Isn't Ergot what Socrates used to take at Eleusis?" I thought it was kind of cool to be taking something that the founders of our democracy used to take, but that our current democracy has made illegal. " Yes, the priest who handed down the secret formula from generation to generation did a wine (or water with mint or peppermint leaves added, adds acidity and high in acetaldehyde) infusion of the ergot." "I can feel it already." "I started to see holographic symbols, floating in a circle around Todd's head. I had never seen symbols before in a trip. They were translucent almost like glass. Empty space had taken on a form. They constantly rotated, allowing me to see all of their sides. A few of them looked like symbols from the zodiac. Others looked like Sanskrit, or Arabic. Some I have nothing to compare them to. Where did they come from? What did they mean?" "Out of all my journeys, ergot was my most productive and therefore my best. "The chalice and prayers peeked my curiousity. Why had he done it this time and no others? What was the meaning of it all? He was so careful with his words, his humble demeanor, and even how he held the chalice as he drank. I had seen communion in church before and knew symbolically this is what he had meant by it all. Edited by tregar (08/21/22 11:03 AM)
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Hey Tregar, If there really is a conversion from lsa to lsh with this tek, would it really matter about the quality of the seeds? Does the lsa in the MG seeds decrease over time? Would powdering the seeds in a coffee grinder for too long of a time have a detrimental effect on the lsa content of the seeds do to the heat produced, making the conversion to lsh impossible? I see stretchman recommends pulsing for no more than 10 seconds at a time.
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Quote: There are reports that indicate that these seeds are very resistant to heat: https://www.shroomery.org/forum
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Cant wait to give this extraction tek a shot! Thanks Tregar!
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Quote: With methanol, u evaporate it away to leave a sticky, yellowish gel-like substance behind. Fresh seeds must be used as there is no conversion of LSA to LSH. Ive had some LSD-like experiences with my methanol method but nothing as powerful as Tregar describes. Thus my theory is that perhaps the sherry wine preserves the natural LSH in the seeds as well as converts the LSA to LSH. Havent done the sherry wine method but will report back on Monday
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Good luck Logical Chaos, can't wait to hear about your trip report Saturday night!
p.s. All psychonauts, everything you need to know with 18 pics and easy instructions on post #1 of this thread on page 1, completely updated with tips I've learned after having 5 powerful trips in 2 months. Page 1: https://www.shroomery.org/forum
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Thanka tregar!
My extract is ready! I added 2oz per jar of dry sherry wine at 1:30am this morning. Did a bunch of vigorious shaking for 15mins on and off then placed back in the ice cooler. When i woke up, i did more shaking off and on as much as i could then around 10:30am, i started to filter. The cotton ball method was too slow so i switched to coffee filters with 2 layers. Much faster. About half way thru filtering, i placed my collection bottle on ice. Got paranoid about them warming up. Filterimg was done inside a motel room closed curtains and minimal ambient sunlight. I rushed filtering the last jar because it was check-out time for the motel room. I poured the filtered extract into 2 pre-chilled stainless flasks then promptly sealed them and placed them on ice in my cooler. I currently have 2 doses with 9g each of fresh MG LSH extract with 3oz of alcoholic mixture per flask on ice. No tarartic acid was used becauase i couldnt buy any in time. I plan on drinking 1 flask in about 3 hrs at a music festival, straight from the cooler. Saving the other dose for a friend at the festival. Wish me luck guys!
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Took the tincture about 2 hours ago. Followed the instructions to a tee including using seeds direct from supplier, 14g. Feeling absolutely nothing. My throat burned for awhile from the alcohol.
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This stuff is weird! Drunken psychedelica. Just dry heaved. Very unique drunken psychedelic. Now i know the Truth...
Sexual, music sounds amazing. Literally all sounds are "Epic". Physical sensations almost orgasmic. Intense dry month. Whoa. -------------------- "What you must understand is that your physical dimension affects everyone in the higher dimensions as well. All things are interconnected. All things are One. Therefore, if one dimension is broken or out of balance, then all other dimensions will experience repercussions." - Pleiadian Prophecy 2020 The New Golden Age by James Carwin PROJECT BLUE BOOK ANALYSIS! (312 pages!) | Psychedelics & UFOs | Ready to Contact UFOs? | The Source on Mushrooms | Trippy Gematrix | Dj TeknoLogical | Fentanyl Test Kits R.I.P. Big Worm || The Start of the Ascension Process was 2020. Welcome to the Next Great Era of Earth 🌎🌍🌏 ![]() ![]() Oregon Eclipse Festival 2017 :: Aug 19th - 21st :: Pure Paradise ![]() ![]() Very Effective LSA Extraction Tek | 💧 Advanced Cold Water LSA Extraction Method 💧 | ![]() Mescajuana - Mescaline with Marijuana | DMT Dab Bongs | UFO Technology! Shpongle
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The slow time dialtion is trippy.
Naked sex parties is whats needed.
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Next time, smaller dose, anly 1oz sherry wine.
Unique. Whoa.
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SWZA, please don't give up...use fresh seeds with hundreds of five star reviews, make sure you are hammering the heck out of the seeds in between the paper plate with edges folded over on concrete, then add the debris to the coffee grinder and grind to a FINE dust just like stretchman did, shake the grinder up and down as it does this, to get it all. The alkaloids are all within the rubbery embryo of the seeds.
Logical chaos said: Quote: Amazing trip report! Thanks Logical Chaos. All 5 of my LSH tek liquid extracts have been very sexual, this is due to the important combo teamwork of penniclavine + LSH hitting 6 more receptors than even LSD hits, the combo hits all 6 adrenal receptors, which are associated with sexuality, beauty, aesthetics. Mescaline also hits these receptors hard, and anyone who has taken cactus tea knows the beauty enhancement is "over the top" and it brings out sexual powers you never thought you had. Imagine how I felt when I took this at the waterpark surrounded by bikini clad gorgeous women on my 4rth trip, BEST TIME I've ever had at the waterpark ![]() ![]() , report below. LSD only hits one of those receptors, see chart below. And yes, as you mentioned, music is incredible, "Epic" is the perfect word, I can listen to music for hours and it's beyond amazing, as if hearing it for the very first time, so alien sounding, my jaw always drops in awe as I hear profound sounds in the music, voices, etc...woah is the word I have let out when hearing the way the music sounds. 4rth trip report on 18g of seeds (600 heavenly blue) at waterpark last Friday: This 18g morning glory extract was again just as powerful as 500ug of acid (5 x 100ug hits of acid) but way more natural, it has the naturalness of mescaline, you can tell it is an ancient psychedelic, there is no man-made feeling to it at all. I took a 4rth extract at the waterpark and tripped my ass off all morning and afternoon long, my wife and group of her friends drove me....so freaking euphoric I was in 7th heaven, the women all looked super beautiful in their neon glowing bathing suits, I saw incredibly beautiful women walking and playing and never felt so much euphoria in my life. I was floating in the wave pool and had the time of my life! and sat on the outskirts of the wave pool as the waves splashed up onto my body, felt just like being in the ocean...I would close my eyes and again see geometrics take up my entire visual space, so colorful and dancing...the music being played over the speakers was just heavenly...there was zero anxiety or thought confusion like you feel with LSD, this was made for outside just like mescaline or cactus. The colors outside were just incredible and nature shown with a diamondlike brilliance...I walked into the gift shop and the beads hanging from ceiling to floor glistened like diamonds and I saw alien faces form in the hanging shining beads, blew my mind. The woman vacuuming the floor in the shop gave off immense tracers as she cleaned the floor. The best name I can come up with is "convulsively beautiful" beauty all around me. It was extreme beauty, this was easily one of the most powerful psychedelic experiences of my life, similar to two 12" very thick bridgesii. I struggle to find the words to describe the experience, but words fail me....this is one of the most long lasting visual and euphoric psychedelic I've ever had the pleasure of experiencing. The women in their bathing suits all shimmered and glowed with an inner light, rainbow colored reflections surrounded their entire body...their features were exaggerated like a colorful glowing cartoon, I felt like a little kid again, no barriers, no filters, pure joy, euphoria and beauty with visuals beyond anything I have ever experienced, and a deep head space with profound healing. I will for sure be using this every time I go to the waterpark from now on. Edited by tregar (08/21/22 09:55 AM)
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Oregon Eclipse Festival 2017 :: Aug 19th - 21st :: Pure Paradise 
Mescajuana - Mescaline with Marijuana
Cant wait to give this extraction tek a shot! Thanks Tregar!

