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What kind of pan is this?
    #27837907 - 06/26/22 07:13 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Habitat:
yard, where sheep graze, not necessarily growing from manure, but the sheep shot all over the place, but these things popped up before we had animals.

Gills:
mottled

Stem:
fragile, tannish


Spore print color:
dark, have a hard time calling it jet black, darker than a cube, dark, I feel like I’ve got to say on the purple side of black.

Bruising:
slightly reddish where handled

Other information:
scattered, they pop up fall and spring when temps are in the 40s-60s and humidity is higher. 
Willamette valley
They key out more like Panaeolus foenisecii, but the miraculux test is throwing me off.  I did modify the test by using .2grams instead of the standard .15 as I thought the psilocybin content would be very low if any.  But damn, they appear to be really strong.  Would still take a bit to harvest enough for a trip.  Just thought it was neat they tested so high.  Thought they were cinctulus but they just don’t seem to fit.


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Re: What kind of pan is this? [Re: Land Trout]
    #27837913 - 06/26/22 07:16 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

It would help to print a couple on white paper to make it easier to see the spore color


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Re: What kind of pan is this? [Re: Pluviophile]
    #27837916 - 06/26/22 07:20 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Ahhhh, that makes sense, thanks for that tip.  May have to wait till fall.  Collected these a couple weeks ago while I was taking a shroomery break.  Finally got full on summer now.


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Re: What kind of pan is this? [Re: Pluviophile]
    #27837917 - 06/26/22 07:20 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I think you have a mix of active and non active pans.

The one with brown gills is likely panaeolus foenisecii
The one that produces the black spore print could be panaeolus cinctulus or panaeolus olivaceous, or one of the other actives.


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Re: What kind of pan is this? [Re: Land Trout]
    #27837922 - 06/26/22 07:21 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

95% sure pictures 3 4 and 5 is a Panaeolus foenisecii. Id say that spore print is jet black and based on the potency I'd say cinctulus.


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Re: What kind of pan is this? [Re: AnTron]
    #27838070 - 06/26/22 08:51 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Thanks y’all.


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Re: What kind of pan is this? [Re: Land Trout]
    #27838106 - 06/26/22 09:17 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

That Panaeolus showed up as having nearly 2% psilocybin?

Have you tried eating them?


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Re: What kind of pan is this? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #27838128 - 06/26/22 09:31 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I haven’t.  They are pretty sparse, and I never really bothered with temperate pans, as, well, haven’t had a need.  But thought what the heck, might as well run a test.  But will try to be more diligent about my observations when it cools down and humidity rises, prints, tests, clones etc.  They happen real fast, they’re very fine and the fruits are pretty much gone after a couple days.


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    #27838389 - 06/27/22 05:21 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Panaeolus cintulus (group) as it seems. It might be that other alkaloids pumped up the test. Especially if you threw some foenisecii in there.

Do a standard 0.15 carefully selecting only cints.


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Re: What kind of pan is this? [Re: RenegadeMycologist] * 1
    #27838703 - 06/27/22 11:03 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Panaeolus cintulus (group) as it seems. It might be that other alkaloids pumped up the test. Especially if you threw some foenisecii in there.

Do a standard 0.15 carefully selecting only cints.




Yeah I was curious about that too. I wonder if the test gets set off by indole based compounds as a whole and or tryptamines in general.


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Re: What kind of pan is this? [Re: Carmodycaramel] * 1
    #27838742 - 06/27/22 11:28 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Good ol’ mysterious pans
More tests like RM suggested!


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Re: What kind of pan is this? [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #27839142 - 06/27/22 03:26 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Re: What kind of pan is this? [Re: Carmodycaramel]
    #27839195 - 06/27/22 04:11 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

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Panaeolus cintulus (group) as it seems. It might be that other alkaloids pumped up the test. Especially if you threw some foenisecii in there.

Do a standard 0.15 carefully selecting only cints.




Yeah I was curious about that too. I wonder if the test gets set off by indole based compounds as a whole and or tryptamines in general.





^^This^^

I was wondering the same thing. I am confident my recent Panaeolus finds are all cinctulus so once I get everything together I will post the Miraculix results and we can compare with OP's results. I was under the assumption certain tryptamines like serotonin can bugger the results but I am not versed enough to say with confidence.

I also agree a mix of foenisecii and cinctulus group


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Re: What kind of pan is this? [Re: Unknownfungi] * 1
    #27839286 - 06/27/22 05:06 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

P. foenisecii is full of other tryptamines like serotonin and 5-htp


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Re: What kind of pan is this? [Re: Moria841]
    #27839314 - 06/27/22 05:33 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

That got me wondering the same thing.


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