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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27841164 - 06/28/22 06:46 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

So why are you making the argument it should be.


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Re: Forced birth [Re: koods]
    #27841170 - 06/28/22 06:48 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

First a fetus is a separate life form and second point out any post where i said i thought abortion should be outlawed

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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
    #27841173 - 06/28/22 06:50 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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As far as i know this isn't country wide. Whoever wants an abortion can drive to a state that allows it




Unless they live in a state that has made it illegal to cross state lines to get abortions.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: Patchouli_Savage]
    #27841180 - 06/28/22 06:53 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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We are due for someone to make a post here soon asking why women don't post in the shroomery very much and why there aren't a lot of active female members. This thread and others like it will useful references to help that person understand why.




I think most reasonable people understand exactly why.

As a matter of fact, I think the vast majority of unreasonable people understand exactly why.

That's why the GOP is trying to ban websites from moderating forums. They want to turn the entire internet into 4chan, knowing that the trolls and neonazis will keep reasonable people away, and ultimately, checked out.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: Kryptos]
    #27841185 - 06/28/22 06:56 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Then if you're a person that thinks you might need an abortion some day then now is the time to move to a place that allows it. Like California or something

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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27841204 - 06/28/22 07:10 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Or we could as a society just leave behind the make believe of religion and start basing policy on things that will actually benefit us.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27841210 - 06/28/22 07:13 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Then if you're a person that thinks you might need an abortion some day then now is the time to move to a place that allows it. Like California or something




Why can't right wingers ever follow their own logic and move to Iran, or something?

It's like XUL's "peaceful balkanization" plan. He could have peacefully emigrated to an all white country, but he insisted that nonwhite people move away from him instead.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #27841225 - 06/28/22 07:29 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

According to the last stormfront posts of his I read a few years back XUL used his inheritance money to buy a farm in northern maine in order to escape "the browning" (as well as his domestic violence charges) and begin his own white nationalist party (complete with a facebook group), but white trash family drama caught up to him and his own brother ended up having XUL arrested and had his his property seized.

I have no doubt that a lot of other people that seem unhinged on this site are also genuinely fucking nut case psychopaths in real life

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Re: Forced birth [Re: feevers]
    #27841228 - 06/28/22 07:31 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Didnt he also have his guns seized due to a domestic abuse situation?


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Re: Forced birth [Re: koods]
    #27841346 - 06/28/22 08:32 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Didnt he also have his guns seized due to a domestic abuse situation?




I think I remember someone saying he had guns taken from him when he beat the shit out of "his woman" and then again when his brother had them seize his farm

And he was probably one of the most intelligent/educated trump cult guys on here, can't imagine what the rest are up to in their free time

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Re: Forced birth [Re: feevers]
    #27841371 - 06/28/22 08:43 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

He had a theory he was working on that the number of regulations had some huge effect on the economy


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Re: Forced birth [Re: koods]
    #27841405 - 06/28/22 08:59 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

He also had some theories about the Holocaust (Holohoax) https://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/842318#842318

I still remember the other trumpies on here defending him constantly, even when he came out as a white nationalist group founder people like lowbrow decided to argue the finer nuances of how white nationalists totally aren't the same as white supremacists and so XUL isn't racist :lol:

I bet he has some enlightened takes on abortion

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Re: Forced birth [Re: Enlil]
    #27841555 - 06/28/22 10:23 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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the idea that shit is comparable to a fetus is a troll argument. 

the fetus has unique dna



As does lettuce.  What's your point?




the argument that flushing your shit is comparable to abortion because both are getting rid of  dna doesn't work.  you have more dna left after taking a dump, but the fetus does not. 

as for lettuce and a fetus having unique dna, they both will eventually become a unique life if allowed to grow. 

I made that post to try and show both sides, some people see the unique dna and want to defend it because of that.  but the odds of any one set of dna being significant to humans as a whole are pretty low, so I don't really buy that idea.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: Kryptos]
    #27841581 - 06/28/22 10:40 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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We are due for someone to make a post here soon asking why women don't post in the shroomery very much and why there aren't a lot of active female members. This thread and others like it will useful references to help that person understand why.




I think most reasonable people understand exactly why.

As a matter of fact, I think the vast majority of unreasonable people understand exactly why.

That's why the GOP is trying to ban websites from moderating forums. They want to turn the entire internet into 4chan, knowing that the trolls and neonazis will keep reasonable people away, and ultimately, checked out.




we can self regulate just fine.    look at how out of control moderators get on places like reddit.  that kind of stuff isn't ok, it's choking free speech.  I've heard many arguments that revolve around if X goes, society will collapse.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: varoan]
    #27841640 - 06/28/22 11:05 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

The opinions from "pro-lifers" seem to always have their roots in the supernatural (religious) perspective

Things like murder and rape are illegal because they're bad both from the crazy religious standpoint as well as from the "bad for society and the people that live in it" standpoint. It's an obvious choice to make.

Abortion is only bad from the crazy religious standpoint, it is a glowing 100% positive from the "good for society and the people that live in it" standpoint. Anyone celebrating 6 dumb cunts in the US federal government stripping 160,000,000 US citizens of a medical right based on those 6 cunts' personal 'faith' in a sky fairy is someone that is a prime example of the benefits of aborting a baby

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Re: Forced birth [Re: feevers]
    #27841650 - 06/28/22 11:13 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I didn't read the reasons they gave, did one of them say they used religion as a reason?

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Re: Forced birth [Re: feevers] * 1
    #27841653 - 06/28/22 11:16 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

So where are laws derived from if not tradition? They’re standards of conduct handed down through time. Nothing more. Putting a higher premium on life isn’t a bad thing.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: Anarchist]
    #27841813 - 06/29/22 04:15 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Doesn't matter the reasoning or excuses behind it but it was about roe v. Wade legislating from the bench which is a no no. Of course they then threw out the case of the coach against the student with prayer so it doesn't take someone with more than a couple brain cells to put together their plan and the narrative they are trying to push. I mean, a few of them aren't even legitimate but we are supposed to trust their take on old court cases that have been settled for a long time? I'm not buying it, and anyone trying to argue about the constitution is a fool that needs to pull their head out of their ass. This isn't 1776, we have constantly amended that old shitty document and if we were wise we would have scrapped it for something much better by this point. Treating a bunch of white slave owners as if their text was given to them from on high is part of the problem we face nowadays. If that is the best we can do America deserves to fall by the waste side as other nations continue to progress.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: koods]
    #27841867 - 06/29/22 06:02 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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He had a theory he was working on that the number of regulations had some huge effect on the economy




He wanted to deregulate milk and meat production. Probably goat's milk. A lot of people could have ended up dead.


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Re: Forced birth [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27842054 - 06/29/22 09:17 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Only 2 states have strict 6 week limits on abortion. All have exceptions to “preserve the life or health” of a pregnant person.

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abortion-state-laws-bans-roe-supreme-court

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