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Re: Forced birth [Re: Enlil]
    #27839428 - 06/27/22 06:40 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

That would be true if the abortion was performed to in fact protect her health

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Re: Forced birth [Re: Psilimax]
    #27839437 - 06/27/22 06:44 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Health as in not just the immediate moment…think life long consequences.


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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27839440 - 06/27/22 06:46 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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You can't argue we need to mandate vaccines to protect people and then the next week argue we need to let people kill their babies. It sounds like you dont want to protect people at all. It sounds like the media whips you into a frenzy and you argue their talking points on their behalf. Truly the fool who seldom differs




Nobody is saying we should kill babies. That is illegal.

No people are harmed during an abortion


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Re: Forced birth [Re: Patchouli_Savage]
    #27839443 - 06/27/22 06:48 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

If the pregnancy was truly threatening the mothers life then ya i wouldn't be opposed to her aborting it

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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27839444 - 06/27/22 06:48 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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That would be true if the abortion performed to in fact protect her health




Pregnancy and childbirth are deadly. We have the highest maternal mortality rate among developed nations. Aside from death, complications of pregnancy and childbirth include perineal tear through the rectum that requires surgical intervention, uterine prolapse, infection leading to sepsis, stroke, amniotic fluid embolism, hypovolemic shock related to hemorrhage, DIC, seizures related to per-eclampsia, gestational diabetes that leads to permanent diabetes, damage to the pudendal nerve causing anorgasmia and pain with intercourse, uterine prolapse, pelvic floor dysfunction, incontinence of urine and stool that can be permanent, fistula formation, persistent hypertension, surgical complications related to c-section, and complications related to anesthesia. Also pain with intercourse related to repairs of perineal tears that are done incorrectly, DVT formation, complications related to medications involving induction of labor or high risk pregnancy management. 

Any abortion would in fact be protecting a woman's physical health. Aside from amniotic fluid embolism, none of these complications are rare.

We haven't even touched on emotional, mental, or financial health, which are all affected by pregnancy as well.


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Re: Forced birth [Re: Patchouli_Savage]
    #27839449 - 06/27/22 06:51 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Wow its amazing that any woman manages to survive pregnancy

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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27839465 - 06/27/22 06:59 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

The vaccines you think you shouldn't be forced to get carry far less risk than the pregnancies you think women should be forced to continue.


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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27839470 - 06/27/22 07:03 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Mental health doesn't count?


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Re: Forced birth [Re: Patchouli_Savage]
    #27839471 - 06/27/22 07:05 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Im sorry the facts of life upset you so much. The way you guys are acting its almost as if the stork is going around dropping off babies at random

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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27839479 - 06/27/22 07:09 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Women have been having abortions as long as they've been getting pregnant. Sorry the facts of life upset you so much.


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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27839483 - 06/27/22 07:11 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Wow its amazing that any woman manages to survive pregnancy




You can thank abortion for our relatively low rates of pregnancy related deaths.


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Re: Forced birth [Re: Patchouli_Savage]
    #27839495 - 06/27/22 07:18 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Im not getting upset. I merely stated that i was surprised how passionate people were about wanting to kill babies and sure enough 2 users started passionately chiming in on the issue

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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27839503 - 06/27/22 07:23 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Nobody is advocating the killing of babies.


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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27839504 - 06/27/22 07:23 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Nobody wants to kill babies you troll


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Re: Forced birth [Re: koods]
    #27839517 - 06/27/22 07:30 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

If they weren't babies then you wouldnt be advised to stop drinking alcohol as soon as you know that you're pregnant

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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27839518 - 06/27/22 07:30 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Im not getting upset. I merely stated that i was surprised how passionate people were about wanting to kill babies and sure enough 2 users started passionately chiming in on the issue




Perhaps they are just annoyed like me because they think this is just the beginning and they know  homosexuality , contraception and porn are next on the list  .


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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27839526 - 06/27/22 07:35 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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If they weren't babies then you wouldnt be advised to stop drinking alcohol as soon as you know that you're pregnant





Only if you intend on bringing the pregnancy to term.


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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27839534 - 06/27/22 07:43 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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If they weren't babies then you wouldnt be advised to stop drinking alcohol as soon as you know that you're pregnant




Fetuses aren’t babies. Babies with fetal alcohol syndrome are babies


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Re: Forced birth [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27839535 - 06/27/22 07:45 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Im not getting upset. I merely stated that i was surprised how passionate people were about wanting to kill babies and sure enough 2 users started passionately chiming in on the issue




Perhaps they are just annoyed like me because they think this is just the beginning and they know  homosexuality , contraception and porn are next on the list  .




Luckily we have a miscegenist on the bench, so interracial marriage is safe.


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Re: Forced birth [Re: koods]
    #27839537 - 06/27/22 07:47 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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If they weren't babies then you wouldnt be advised to stop drinking alcohol as soon as you know that you're pregnant




Fetuses aren’t babies. Babies with fetal alcohol syndrome are babies





I suspect we'll be seeing an increase in FAS births in the states who implemented trigger laws.


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