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OfflineNakedNexus
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Re: Forced birth [Re: Hartford]
    #27854751 - 07/08/22 12:41 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Haha truly amazing.

Anyways, in that case, fuck the universe! :evil:

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Re: Forced birth [Re: Hartford]
    #27854800 - 07/08/22 01:01 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Hartford said:
I've oriented my agenda with the universe's, so it's not me who is forcing this upon you, it's the universe.




I've spoken to the universe, and it told me to remind you to eat a dick.

So, chop chop!

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Re: Forced birth [Re: Kryptos]
    #27854877 - 07/08/22 01:48 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

More nature, less bitching.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: Hartford]
    #27854880 - 07/08/22 01:49 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

More abortions less bitching from YOU plz

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Re: Forced birth [Re: Hartford] * 1
    #27855017 - 07/08/22 03:52 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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More nature, less bitching.




Bears , cats , PRIMATES , rats , prairie dogs , fish , insects and reptiles all eat their young sometimes .
    I actually witnessed my hamster eat it's baby directly out of its vagina when I was a kid and  watched my kids guppy eat it's babies  As soon as they could swim .


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Re: Forced birth [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27855230 - 07/08/22 07:42 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Haha, nature leaves most females a lot of the deciding of the disposition of their potential offspring; Hartford seems to me to have misspoke. It would be good if he'd explain how this isn't the best argument for a woman's right to do whatever she wants with her potential child.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: falcon] * 1
    #27855253 - 07/08/22 08:03 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Abortion is natural


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Re: Forced birth [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #27855257 - 07/08/22 08:05 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

abortion always makes me think of george carlin



pre born youre fine preschool youre fucked.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: Enlil]
    #27855268 - 07/08/22 08:12 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I agree, I'm waiting for some words why it's not.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: falcon]
    #27855271 - 07/08/22 08:16 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

My motto is: abort early and abort often.

1st runner up is: the only good fetus is a dead fetus

Also,  fuck yo god


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Re: Forced birth [Re: Enlil]
    #27855305 - 07/08/22 08:39 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

An abortion is someone merely cleaning up after themselves.


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Re: Forced birth [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #27855346 - 07/08/22 09:08 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Abortion is primary birth control.  SIDS is the backup plan


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Re: Forced birth [Re: Enlil]
    #27855421 - 07/08/22 10:27 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

abortion is natural if we count all the accidental ways a pregnancy can end, but choosing to end it isn't.  doesn't mean there is anything wrong with that though, humans do tons of unnatural things. 

I'm going off memory here, but with no medical care I think the rate of death for a mother is a little over 1%.    It makes no sense to prevent having offspring if you were already successful enough to find a mate for a rate that low.  As for killing the baby after birth, I think for humans the only reason this would happen would be lack of food for the baby and group, not wanting to risk another mouth to feed. 

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Re: Forced birth [Re: Enlil]
    #27855431 - 07/08/22 11:08 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

They tell you to rock the baby to sleep but SBS is inferred.


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Re: Forced birth [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27855526 - 07/09/22 01:42 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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I'm not understanding why your job has to provide you with Healthcare at all, let alone contraceptives



 
    Because they want to . If not they may lose everyone to another employer that does .
  What I don't understand is why you take it upon yourself to be part of it .
  It's none of your or your churches fucking business what my employer offers as benefits or what I choose to do with my doctor .




I'm not sure where I took it upon myself to try to decide for any business what Healthcare they provided.


I don't remember where I said I belonged to a church, or said it was any churches business what Healthcare a business provided

Are you projecting, or confused as to what comment you replied to?

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Re: Forced birth [Re: Kryptos]
    #27855529 - 07/09/22 01:44 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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And besides, let's be honest here. If we were to cede that in cases of rape, abortion was acceptable, would you cede that abortion in cases that aren't due to rape is immoral and shouldn't be allowed?




No, actually. This significantly weakens your argument of protecting unborn life. If you actually believed that you were protecting life by banning abortion, you would not allow exceptions for rape, incest, or the life of the mother. Your position would be that women become disposable the moment they are pregnant.

The fact that you are willing to cede rape cases shows that this isn't about life, but about cruelty and control.

The fact that not ceding rape, incest, and life of the mother exceptions is extremely politically inconvenient puts you in a very difficult position.





Yes I'm aware that ceding abortions in cases of rape would be a contradiction.

Which is why I didn't cede it and evoked a hypothetical to prove a point.

But I'm not seeing where or why females would become "disposable".

That sounds like dramatically dishonest language.

Speak with integrity.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: varoan]
    #27855530 - 07/09/22 01:46 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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No exceptions for rape or incest was my position.




Incest is one thing since that's a normal pregnancy, even planned by some.    But rape?  yeah let's just add to the trauma a woman already has by being raped and getting pregnant, forcing her to risk her health and financial future.




2 wrongs don't make a right.

The kid doesn't deserve to die. It's not going to reverse time and unrape the mother.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: Orokusaki] * 2
    #27855549 - 07/09/22 02:27 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

You can't end abortion. You can make it difficult and dangerous, or you can make it safe and effective. Those are your two options. Women don't care about your hypotheticals and morals, this is real life and death for them. Some folks are able to take on that power of choice, others are cowards who want to decide for everyone else. I just wish they cared about the real full lives of women, just at least as much as imaginary potential children.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: Enlil]
    #27855570 - 07/09/22 03:41 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Abortion is natural




Also wasn't even illegal previously until the woman could feel the baby moving.


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Re: Forced birth [Re: Hartford] * 1
    #27855572 - 07/09/22 03:45 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Red states are winning and this policy will further stabilize them.




Other than Texas, there's not a lot of winning of any kind in red states. They depend on blue states for their economic welfare.


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