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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27843192 - 06/29/22 11:37 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Abortion hasnt been outlawed or anything. It just gave states the power to outlaw it. And anyone is still free to move to a place like California where it will never be illegal. And ps the American constitution is one of the greatest documents ever written




Your arguments are in such bad faith. Here is hoping your loved ones are affected by these rulings so maybe you will care beyond your limited perspective. And ps that says everything I need to know about you. This is why we need abortion available up to age 20, your parents would have had it so much easier, I have no doubt. Too bad, instead we have to listen to you angrily lash out at women you don't know about things you don't understand. Shit you are America's poster child, ignorant as all hell but very vocal about their own stupidity and proud of it.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: varoan]
    #27843275 - 06/30/22 02:03 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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actually, medical procedures like vaccines or a check-up are fine.  those provide a benefit that no one is going to dispute.




BS
Argument fails :shrug:
Snip-snip ?

Edited by mycot (06/30/22 03:56 AM)

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Re: Forced birth [Re: mycot]
    #27843332 - 06/30/22 04:29 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

you are going to dispute the benefits of vaccines or a doctor taking your vitals?  please tell me why those are things anyone should oppose.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: varoan]
    #27843356 - 06/30/22 05:13 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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varoan said:
you are going to dispute the benefits of vaccines or a doctor taking your vitals?  please tell me why those are things anyone should oppose.




Certainly,
This has been covered extensively in several threads on this site and all over the internet by many who oppose. A little research will find reasons. You might wish to join the discussion in the conspiracy forum.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: mycot]
    #27843371 - 06/30/22 05:30 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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mycot said:
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varoan said:
you are going to dispute the benefits of vaccines or a doctor taking your vitals?  please tell me why those are things anyone should oppose.




Certainly,
This has been covered extensively in several threads on this site and all over the internet by many who oppose. A little research will find reasons. You might wish to join the discussion in the conspiracy forum.




There's a reason why they call it the conspiracy forum, and several of the most popular topics are off-limits here, because the mods got tired of reading stupid shit. Enlil is a mod there too, but he wants to keep the stupid shit there.


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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27843375 - 06/30/22 05:38 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Unless someone rapes you.



Why is it your side always goes to extreme? No ones talking about rape victims




The Speaker of the House of Mississippi said a 12 year old incest victim should have to carry the pregnancy to term. Given the roll the SCOTUS is on, this can't be discounted. You know cause state's rights are important.


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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27843379 - 06/30/22 05:41 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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No she should be able to do whatever the fuck she wants with her own body

DMT lol.




Whatever happened to actions have consequences? I mean even if you had the slightest bit of responsibility you could easily avoid getting pregnant




Or you could just be responsible and get an abortion if you don’t want a child



Honestly if you dont want a child you should be taking precautions.




Yes, the men could give up sex, or get castrated, or all become gay.
Oh, did you mean women should be taking precautions?


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Re: Forced birth [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27843380 - 06/30/22 05:42 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Brian Jones said:
There's a reason why they call it the conspiracy forum, and several of the most popular topics are off-limits here, because the mods got tired of reading stupid shit. Enlil is a mod there too, but he wants to keep the stupid shit there.




I agree that there is some stupid shit in the conspiracy forum as there is on every forum on this site.
Believe it or not, there is also some intelligent discussion in that forum.

Edited by mycot (06/30/22 05:46 AM)

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Re: Forced birth [Re: mycot]
    #27843384 - 06/30/22 05:45 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

fair enough, people can claim a vaccine is bad for them.    my bad.   

but tell me why its ok to force all males to lose their reproductive right before they have even done anything.    what other rights are you going to take away next just because you feel it'll benefit everyone?

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Re: Forced birth [Re: varoan]
    #27843386 - 06/30/22 05:45 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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So a woman would have to carry a retard baby to term




Full retard to full term, but for mildly retarded you could still get a partial birth abortion.


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Re: Forced birth [Re: varoan]
    #27843391 - 06/30/22 05:57 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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varoan said:
fair enough, people can claim a vaccine is bad for them.    my bad.   

but tell me why its ok to force all males to lose their reproductive right before they have even done anything.    what other rights are you going to take away next just because you feel it'll benefit everyone?




I fully agree with you (and it is not ok) that autonomy should not be taken away but neither should women be placed in an untenable position.

Edited by mycot (06/30/22 06:01 AM)

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Re: Forced birth [Re: mycot]
    #27843392 - 06/30/22 05:58 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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koods said:
So a woman would have to carry a retard baby to term




Full retard to full term, but for mildly retarded you could still get a partial birth abortion.
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There's a reason why they call it the conspiracy forum, and several of the most popular topics are off-limits here, because the mods got tired of reading stupid shit. Enlil is a mod there too, but he wants to keep the stupid shit there.




I agree that there is some stupid shit in the conspiracy forum as there is on every forum on this site.
Believe it or not, there is also some intelligent discussion in that forum.




Agreed, there is some.


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Re: Forced birth [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27843394 - 06/30/22 06:02 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Most places already have 0 resources to deal with the special needs children or children with behavioral issues that they already have. Cut out abortions and that's going to get a lot worse for everyone, and a hell of a lot more expensive for taxpayers. I'm sure the Republicans will spearhead some wonderful and innovative new social services programs to clean up their mess though, they love helping people

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Re: Forced birth [Re: feevers] * 1
    #27843651 - 06/30/22 10:17 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Most places already have 0 resources to deal with the special needs children or children with behavioral issues that they already have. Cut out abortions and that's going to get a lot worse for everyone, and a hell of a lot more expensive for taxpayers. I'm sure the Republicans will spearhead some wonderful and innovative new social services programs to clean up their mess though, they love helping people




There should be ZERO federal government programs to deal with theses types issues. Instead we should be paying around 5% of our income to the fed (not 30%) and using our own money to select services that we choose from the free market.

Its called Libertarianism

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Re: Forced birth [Re: donwats]
    #27843661 - 06/30/22 10:24 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Libertarianism doesn’t actually work in the real world


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Re: Forced birth [Re: koods]
    #27843697 - 06/30/22 11:03 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Libertarianism doesn’t actually work in the real world




What it dose is give every individual choice and the free markets that the people choose grows and the markets that people reject die. It grows like a weed like in nature, its perfect.

With 30+ trillion debt i might agree that it cant really happen at this point and it would be under constant attack by people that want to control everyone and everything.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: donwats]
    #27843722 - 06/30/22 11:34 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Most places already have 0 resources to deal with the special needs children or children with behavioral issues that they already have. Cut out abortions and that's going to get a lot worse for everyone, and a hell of a lot more expensive for taxpayers. I'm sure the Republicans will spearhead some wonderful and innovative new social services programs to clean up their mess though, they love helping people




There should be ZERO federal government programs to deal with theses types issues. Instead we should be paying around 5% of our income to the fed (not 30%) and using our own money to select services that we choose from the free market.

Its called Libertarianism




The amount that the average person would save by paying 25% less in taxes would be like a week of specialized schooling or childcare or skilled therapy for a special needs kid. The free market argument only works for the ultra wealthy or people who don't have many problems in their life at that specific time.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: feevers]
    #27843739 - 06/30/22 12:06 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Most places already have 0 resources to deal with the special needs children or children with behavioral issues that they already have. Cut out abortions and that's going to get a lot worse for everyone, and a hell of a lot more expensive for taxpayers. I'm sure the Republicans will spearhead some wonderful and innovative new social services programs to clean up their mess though, they love helping people




There should be ZERO federal government programs to deal with theses types issues. Instead we should be paying around 5% of our income to the fed (not 30%) and using our own money to select services that we choose from the free market.

Its called Libertarianism




The amount that the average person would save by paying 25% less in taxes would be like a week of specialized schooling or childcare or skilled therapy for a special needs kid. The free market argument only works for the ultra wealthy or people who don't have many problems in their life at that specific time.




Its called get a job, why am i forced to pay for other peoples problems. You cant even trust government to run these programs, it all about indoctrination. These programs dig there claws into people and never let go, then it starts to become the norm and people become depended. Then they start to demanding more and more from working class Americans...

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Re: Forced birth [Re: feevers] * 1
    #27843744 - 06/30/22 12:10 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Libertarian = Republicans that want to smoke weed.

Lol but seriously its a bad idea. Completely unregulated markets are how we get snake oil salesmen and their ilk controlling the ignorant and polluting how they please. Plus we all use roads and other services paid for by tax dollars. No one is an island fortress that can live without one another. If you really want freedom from all this control go live in Somalia and tell us how it works out for ya.

If we have to govern ourselves we should be doing so with our best interests in mind, providing basic necessities that we all need, not making weapon manufacturers super wealthy while invading other countries under the guise of freedom. Our taxes are misappropriated like crazy, that is the main issue we face as tax payers. And every selfish asshole that doesn't want to be taxed is usually the one that would benefit from properly used funds the most (besides the billionaires, fuck those sociopaths).

But this is all derailing this thread which has pretty much run its course. Women should have agency over their own bodies regardless of what religious nuts and incels believe. /thread

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Re: Forced birth [Re: donwats]
    #27843755 - 06/30/22 12:21 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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donwats said:
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feevers said:
Most places already have 0 resources to deal with the special needs children or children with behavioral issues that they already have. Cut out abortions and that's going to get a lot worse for everyone, and a hell of a lot more expensive for taxpayers. I'm sure the Republicans will spearhead some wonderful and innovative new social services programs to clean up their mess though, they love helping people




There should be ZERO federal government programs to deal with theses types issues. Instead we should be paying around 5% of our income to the fed (not 30%) and using our own money to select services that we choose from the free market.

Its called Libertarianism




The amount that the average person would save by paying 25% less in taxes would be like a week of specialized schooling or childcare or skilled therapy for a special needs kid. The free market argument only works for the ultra wealthy or people who don't have many problems in their life at that specific time.




Its called get a job, why am i forced to pay for other peoples problems. You cant even trust government to run these programs, it all about indoctrination. These programs dig there claws into people and never let go, then it starts to become the norm and people become depended. Then they start to demanding more and more from working class Americans...




You may not be aware of this, but all you're doing is repeating what republican politicians tell dumb people so they can continue to give huge tax cuts to their corporate donors.

In reality programs that offer stability and security to people in need save society and taxpayers many billions of dollars in the long term.

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