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Invisibledonwats
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Re: Forced birth [Re: donwats]
    #27842060 - 06/29/22 09:23 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Only 2 states have strict 6 week limits on abortion. All have exceptions to “preserve the life or health” of a pregnant person.

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abortion-state-laws-bans-roe-supreme-court




Ok correction Oklahoma is total ban except to “preserve the life or health” of a pregnant person, but i'm sure they will address that.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: donwats]
    #27842084 - 06/29/22 09:47 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

the exceptions vary when you view each state.    Texas is permitted "if a physician believes a medical emergency exists that prevents compliance" within the law for example

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Re: Forced birth [Re: varoan]
    #27842173 - 06/29/22 11:13 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Its unproven ofc, but theres said to be a massive surge of dmt at around day 54 (9 weeks). I think most of us who have experienced the full effects of dmt agree that event (if true) is likely the true beginning of life and not moment of conception.

If a woman chooses to have unprotected sex then she should be responsible enough to take care of these things early on. If a woman is raped she should be offered the next day pill immediately.

Most of this seems like 2+2 basic math, but apparently in the world we now live in 2+2 no longer = 4

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Re: Forced birth [Re: donwats]
    #27842179 - 06/29/22 11:17 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

No she should be able to do whatever the fuck she wants with her own body

DMT lol.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (06/29/22 11:18 AM)

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Re: Forced birth [Re: koods]
    #27842209 - 06/29/22 11:29 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

dmt marks the beginning of life for humans, thanks shroomery.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: varoan]
    #27842280 - 06/29/22 12:14 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Yeah bro, at day 54 the soul gets chosen from a bunch of randos and then forced into the soul placeholder so it is totally morally wrong to abort the fetus after that, because of its soul bro. Everyone who has smoked DMT knows souls exist because, so maybe women should just stop using so much DMT if they don't want anymore souls growing in them. Math.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: donwats]
    #27842532 - 06/29/22 02:59 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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donwats said:
Only 2 states have strict 6 week limits on abortion. All have exceptions to “preserve the life or health” of a pregnant person.




Define "preserve life and health"?

At what point is someone's life and health in danger? Does going into septic shock count? Because there are many cases where women are allowed to go into septic shock because technically the fetus is still showing cardiac activity, even though it is not viable and mostly necrotic. After all, people can survive septic shock. Sometimes. What's a little brain damage between friends? Or a coma? Or a vegetative state? She's technically still alive! We saved her! Well, sometimes. Often they don't.

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donwats said:
Only 2 states have strict 6 week limits on abortion. All have exceptions to “preserve the life or health” of a pregnant person.

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abortion-state-laws-bans-roe-supreme-court




Ok correction Oklahoma is total ban except to “preserve the life or health” of a pregnant person, but i'm sure they will address that.




Correct, SB918 has no exemptions, not even to save the life of the woman.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: Kryptos]
    #27842689 - 06/29/22 05:04 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Kryptos said:
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donwats said:
Only 2 states have strict 6 week limits on abortion. All have exceptions to “preserve the life or health” of a pregnant person.




Define "preserve life and health"?

At what point is someone's life and health in danger? Does going into septic shock count? Because there are many cases where women are allowed to go into septic shock because technically the fetus is still showing cardiac activity, even though it is not viable and mostly necrotic. After all, people can survive septic shock. Sometimes. What's a little brain damage between friends? Or a coma? Or a vegetative state? She's technically still alive! We saved her! Well, sometimes. Often they don't.

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donwats said:
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donwats said:
Only 2 states have strict 6 week limits on abortion. All have exceptions to “preserve the life or health” of a pregnant person.

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abortion-state-laws-bans-roe-supreme-court




Ok correction Oklahoma is total ban except to “preserve the life or health” of a pregnant person, but i'm sure they will address that.




Correct, SB918 has no exemptions, not even to save the life of the woman.




Oklahoma SB918?

§ 1-732. Viable Fetus - Grounds to Abort - Procedure

A. No person shall perform or induce an abortion upon a pregnant woman after such time as her unborn child has become viable unless such abortion is necessary to prevent the death of the pregnant woman or to prevent impairment to her health.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: donwats]
    #27842730 - 06/29/22 05:53 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

So a woman would have to carry a retard baby to term


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Re: Forced birth [Re: koods]
    #27842743 - 06/29/22 06:05 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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So a woman would have to carry a retard baby to term




Seems so in many states. I'm more center right on the issue despite how it might seem.

Id let her abort and try again for a health child.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: donwats]
    #27842768 - 06/29/22 06:37 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Huh, they amended it before sending it to the governor.

I remember them announcing it as a no exceptions policy as part of the OK GOP's attempt to have the strictest laws in the country.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: NakedNexus]
    #27842809 - 06/29/22 07:24 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Abortion hasnt been outlawed or anything. It just gave states the power to outlaw it. And anyone is still free to move to a place like California where it will never be illegal. And ps the American constitution is one of the greatest documents ever written

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Re: Forced birth [Re: koods]
    #27842814 - 06/29/22 07:29 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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No she should be able to do whatever the fuck she wants with her own body

DMT lol.




Whatever happened to actions have consequences? I mean even if you had the slightest bit of responsibility you could easily avoid getting pregnant

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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27842819 - 06/29/22 07:39 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Unless someone rapes you.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27842827 - 06/29/22 07:41 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Abortion hasnt been outlawed or anything.



It literally has been in many places. Maybe you should inform yourself before spouting off


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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27842829 - 06/29/22 07:43 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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koods said:
No she should be able to do whatever the fuck she wants with her own body

DMT lol.




Whatever happened to actions have consequences? I mean even if you had the slightest bit of responsibility you could easily avoid getting pregnant




Or you could just be responsible and get an abortion if you don’t want a child


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Forced birth [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #27842836 - 06/29/22 07:47 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Unless someone rapes you.



Why is it your side always goes to extreme? No ones talking about rape victims

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Re: Forced birth [Re: koods]
    #27842839 - 06/29/22 07:48 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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koods said:
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koods said:
No she should be able to do whatever the fuck she wants with her own body

DMT lol.




Whatever happened to actions have consequences? I mean even if you had the slightest bit of responsibility you could easily avoid getting pregnant




Or you could just be responsible and get an abortion if you don’t want a child



Honestly if you dont want a child you should be taking precautions.

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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27842845 - 06/29/22 07:51 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Reality is extreme. You are right no one considered rape victims.

Why does ‘your side’ always bury your head in the sand?

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Re: Forced birth [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27842856 - 06/29/22 07:57 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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mushboy said:
Unless someone rapes you.



Why is it your side always goes to extreme? No ones talking about rape victims




I guess that conversation is too inconvenient


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