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Re: Frankenstein [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27832715 - 06/23/22 11:00 AM (2 days, 4 hours ago)

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redgreenvines said:

why don't you think butterflies can agree, have you observed them arguing?




I realized after I posted that I have no evidence for such a conclusion :facepalm3:


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Re: Frankenstein [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #27832722 - 06/23/22 11:07 AM (2 days, 4 hours ago)

fair enough, I will resume my immersion in nature.


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Re: Frankenstein [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27832748 - 06/23/22 11:39 AM (2 days, 3 hours ago)

That's better than the alternative

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Re: Frankenstein [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #27832789 - 06/23/22 12:20 PM (2 days, 3 hours ago)

nature will resume its immersion in me


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Re: Frankenstein [Re: Kickle] * 1
    #27832956 - 06/23/22 02:44 PM (2 days, 49 minutes ago)

if people do not see other humans as also  being human, they may not feel any kind of moral obligation to them.

when a human treats someone in a frankenstein-esque way they, in the process of dehumanizing them, they treat them like an artificial entity.

by then viewing another human as a non-human artificial monster entity, moral obligations shift. 

a human would see the monster as less human than themselves, and used that to justify morally discriminating against the monster. 

treat others as you would treat yourself.

does this apply to animals as well?

humans sometimes treat animals as less than human, but some take no issue with this, bc of speciesism?

does human well being matter more than that of other creatures?


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Re: Frankenstein [Re: thealienthatategod] * 1
    #27833255 - 06/23/22 06:29 PM (1 day, 21 hours ago)

I once did a thought experiment that went something along the lines of your beloved pet walking down the sidewalk and a random human stranger walking down the other sidewalk where its somehow assumed that a couple attackers are going to assault both the beloved pet and the random human stranger. The question of course being - which one do you save assuming you can only save one?

It's also interesting that anybody who gets to know Frankenstein might develop some kind of bond with the creature thereby developing a committment. But if not, it's just a Frankenstein.

So clearly there's two types of bonds. One is real and the other is theorized.


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